07-28-2017, 02:16 PM
07-28-2017, 02:17 PM
Couple of posts from Shannon's journal discussion thread:
7/16/2017:
So just for your records since I don't journal, I was doing DMSI 3.1A 4 hours a day for a bit, maybe 2-3 weeks. It was hard to notice difference from 2 hours a day, I was feeling maybe more tired. On both of those loop amounts, I was feeling less and less needy, and having seemingly good healing going on. But for the past 1-2 weeks, I was doing 6-8 hours a day, and I started getting SUPER tired. I was getting my full sleep but still feeling as if i was very sleep deprivated. Also, I had anxiety increase for a bit, and also depressive feelings, I was also getting sort of "attachy" and caring for approval with this one girl I know, constantly wanting her attention, etc. I'm stopping DMSI for maybe a week or so to try to see what the bloom feels like, and also to recuperate my energy and mood because of the 6-8hrs draining those so much.
One thing I was thinking about was that I started the 6-8 hrs a day routine right as I was trying to mentally and physically prepare (e.g. fixing sleep routine, exercise, meditate etc) for a walk-in interview at this new restaurant. Getting this new job and stuff I feel is a huge sort of "requirement" kind of for me to get laid because in my mind I want to wait till I move out (currently live with mom n sis) to start any sort of relationship or new social life. I view getting that new job as the "beginning" of a new era, so maybe the 6-8 loops was causing some super fear about it, or resistance, not sure. Anyways just thought the detail possibly might be useful.
7/28/2017:
On another note, i had a first super obvious blatant "hit" from DMSI yesterday. I went to a recruiting convention for my friends company to help him get promoted. During one of the presentations, the girl sitting on my right started getting sort of flustered and constantly preening her hair, and one time she blatantly snuck a quick glance at me lol. Later on while exiting, I stopped to shake hands with some guy i met to say bye, and by chance she was right there (i stopped right in front of her, she was on my left) and she was clearly getting super flustered and looking around and out of the corner of my eye she was getting fidgety or something, maybe trying to get my attention. AHHH I can't decide if I wanna do AM6 or continue with DMSI lmao! The sexual performance modules sound really fun to experience for when I find a partner to lose my V with, and it seems results are starting to come... Do you think I should start trying version B or is there no way for you to tell; and if i do switch to B, do i need a break?
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I can't decide if I want to continue DMSI or start my next AM6 run.
7/16/2017:
So just for your records since I don't journal, I was doing DMSI 3.1A 4 hours a day for a bit, maybe 2-3 weeks. It was hard to notice difference from 2 hours a day, I was feeling maybe more tired. On both of those loop amounts, I was feeling less and less needy, and having seemingly good healing going on. But for the past 1-2 weeks, I was doing 6-8 hours a day, and I started getting SUPER tired. I was getting my full sleep but still feeling as if i was very sleep deprivated. Also, I had anxiety increase for a bit, and also depressive feelings, I was also getting sort of "attachy" and caring for approval with this one girl I know, constantly wanting her attention, etc. I'm stopping DMSI for maybe a week or so to try to see what the bloom feels like, and also to recuperate my energy and mood because of the 6-8hrs draining those so much.
One thing I was thinking about was that I started the 6-8 hrs a day routine right as I was trying to mentally and physically prepare (e.g. fixing sleep routine, exercise, meditate etc) for a walk-in interview at this new restaurant. Getting this new job and stuff I feel is a huge sort of "requirement" kind of for me to get laid because in my mind I want to wait till I move out (currently live with mom n sis) to start any sort of relationship or new social life. I view getting that new job as the "beginning" of a new era, so maybe the 6-8 loops was causing some super fear about it, or resistance, not sure. Anyways just thought the detail possibly might be useful.
7/28/2017:
On another note, i had a first super obvious blatant "hit" from DMSI yesterday. I went to a recruiting convention for my friends company to help him get promoted. During one of the presentations, the girl sitting on my right started getting sort of flustered and constantly preening her hair, and one time she blatantly snuck a quick glance at me lol. Later on while exiting, I stopped to shake hands with some guy i met to say bye, and by chance she was right there (i stopped right in front of her, she was on my left) and she was clearly getting super flustered and looking around and out of the corner of my eye she was getting fidgety or something, maybe trying to get my attention. AHHH I can't decide if I wanna do AM6 or continue with DMSI lmao! The sexual performance modules sound really fun to experience for when I find a partner to lose my V with, and it seems results are starting to come... Do you think I should start trying version B or is there no way for you to tell; and if i do switch to B, do i need a break?
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I can't decide if I want to continue DMSI or start my next AM6 run.
07-28-2017, 02:25 PM
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8313-p...#pid175487
I agree with RTBoss, try Version B before going to AM. Do Version B for at least one month, then reevaluate your decision.
(07-28-2017, 12:44 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Holy cow, dude, you haven't even tried Version B!? Gotta try it, at least, before going to AM.
I agree with RTBoss, try Version B before going to AM. Do Version B for at least one month, then reevaluate your decision.
07-28-2017, 02:58 PM
(07-28-2017, 02:25 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8313-p...#pid175487
(07-28-2017, 12:44 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Holy cow, dude, you haven't even tried Version B!? Gotta try it, at least, before going to AM.
I agree with RTBoss, try Version B before going to AM. Do Version B for at least one month, then reevaluate your decision.
True, I'm gonna do that then.
08-02-2017, 04:32 PM
Not sure if placebo, but probably not. I feel that on the inside I'm more comfortable and even excited about the notion of flirting with a girl and escalating with her. When I used to think about that sort of interaction, it'd give me anxiety about having to be me and genuine, and let go of my negative ego that make me anxious and act not like myself.
But now, for some reason, when I imagine or think about that sort of interaction/scenario, I feel sort of excited, and not as anxious about it, as if it was a dangerous foreign land of potential embarrassment, but rather, a new, exciting world of self-discovery and intimate human connection.
One thing that still is making me anxious is when or if and how I should tell the girl that I'm a virgin, and the fact that I'm going to be feeling very vulnerable and probably embarrassed (even though I know I shouldn't be) in that moment.
Maybe DMSI will remove that embarrassment/anxiety about this?
Anyways continuing on with Version A, 4 hours a day, until I start working at my second job, and start socializing more, and have more consistent exposure to girls/women.
But now, for some reason, when I imagine or think about that sort of interaction/scenario, I feel sort of excited, and not as anxious about it, as if it was a dangerous foreign land of potential embarrassment, but rather, a new, exciting world of self-discovery and intimate human connection.
One thing that still is making me anxious is when or if and how I should tell the girl that I'm a virgin, and the fact that I'm going to be feeling very vulnerable and probably embarrassed (even though I know I shouldn't be) in that moment.
Maybe DMSI will remove that embarrassment/anxiety about this?
Anyways continuing on with Version A, 4 hours a day, until I start working at my second job, and start socializing more, and have more consistent exposure to girls/women.
08-02-2017, 04:40 PM
Some girls find that sexy.. I don't know why but I guess it's like I find the thought of being with a girl who's a virgin sexy. They may be awkward but it's the thought that I can teach and guide them and we're exploring it together.
My friend was a virgin until like 30 and one night we met some girls. Dropped them off but couldn't go in because one of their ex's was living there or something weird. But I seen the one I was talking to the next day and she said to me "You know if you guys could have come in then my friend said she wanted to take your friends virginity". As he had mentioned it to them.
My friend was a virgin until like 30 and one night we met some girls. Dropped them off but couldn't go in because one of their ex's was living there or something weird. But I seen the one I was talking to the next day and she said to me "You know if you guys could have come in then my friend said she wanted to take your friends virginity". As he had mentioned it to them.
08-03-2017, 01:12 PM
(08-02-2017, 04:40 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Some girls find that sexy.. I don't know why but I guess it's like I find the thought of being with a girl who's a virgin sexy. They may be awkward but it's the thought that I can teach and guide them and we're exploring it together.
My friend was a virgin until like 30 and one night we met some girls. Dropped them off but couldn't go in because one of their ex's was living there or something weird. But I seen the one I was talking to the next day and she said to me "You know if you guys could have come in then my friend said she wanted to take your friends virginity". As he had mentioned it to them.
Yeah, I know on the inside that lots of girls like that, but some don't. I guess I just have to do it with someone who seems like the kind that does. When it happens though.... :O :O :O
I'm approaching 30... a little over 3 more years..
hard to believe08-09-2017, 10:40 AM
I've noticed I'm getting these random headaches occasionally, which are apparently from DMSI resistance. Not too often though. I didn't know until now it could be DMSI resistance.
I've been healing pretty well though; my inner self is becoming more and more truly ok with the idea of going out and being active in trying to get laid, meeting people etc. Also, I'm a lot less worried about my penis size, and realized that that insecurity is probably the #1 thing that held me down and fucked my self confidence. I never took action and sort of avoided chances to have sex now that I think of it, several chances to have sex in high school where girls offered themselves to me basically on a silver platter pretty blatantly, but I didn't reciprocate.
Now that I think about it, the biggest thing that I was scared about was being naked and revealing my dick, which is average sized according to measurement, but from the looks it looks like 4 inches to my eyes for some reason (probably because seeing huge dongs all the time when I used to be a porn addict). I didn't realize it till recently, but that was the biggest thign that held me back.
I had no idea penis size insecurity could be THAT detrimental to self-confidence, but I'm glad I realized it. Hopefully DMSI continues healing at this awesome rate so that I can finally slide my hard, aching cock into a tight warm dripping wet pussy. And finally have some emotional intimacy.
I've been healing pretty well though; my inner self is becoming more and more truly ok with the idea of going out and being active in trying to get laid, meeting people etc. Also, I'm a lot less worried about my penis size, and realized that that insecurity is probably the #1 thing that held me down and fucked my self confidence. I never took action and sort of avoided chances to have sex now that I think of it, several chances to have sex in high school where girls offered themselves to me basically on a silver platter pretty blatantly, but I didn't reciprocate.
Now that I think about it, the biggest thing that I was scared about was being naked and revealing my dick, which is average sized according to measurement, but from the looks it looks like 4 inches to my eyes for some reason (probably because seeing huge dongs all the time when I used to be a porn addict). I didn't realize it till recently, but that was the biggest thign that held me back.
I had no idea penis size insecurity could be THAT detrimental to self-confidence, but I'm glad I realized it. Hopefully DMSI continues healing at this awesome rate so that I can finally slide my hard, aching cock into a tight warm dripping wet pussy. And finally have some emotional intimacy.
08-09-2017, 11:58 PM
I had big issues with that. Like you wouldn't believe. Years and years of it, not getting over it until 25 years old. DMSI helped me get over self-sabotaging with it's anti-resistance modules.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
08-13-2017, 01:31 AM
(08-09-2017, 11:58 PM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]I had big issues with that. Like you wouldn't believe. Years and years of it, not getting over it until 25 years old. DMSI helped me get over self-sabotaging with it's anti-resistance modules.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
So you lost your v-card at 25 years old? And did you get your now girlfriend through DMSI? or when?
08-14-2017, 12:17 AM
(08-13-2017, 01:31 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ](08-09-2017, 11:58 PM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]I had big issues with that. Like you wouldn't believe. Years and years of it, not getting over it until 25 years old. DMSI helped me get over self-sabotaging with it's anti-resistance modules.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
So you lost your v-card at 25 years old? And did you get your now girlfriend through DMSI? or when?
Yep, lost it at 25, and got my girlfriend whilst using it too. My problem was quite unique though - I wasn't unattractive, I was very self-sabotaging out of fear. If I hadn't stood in my own way, I could have lost it at any time. So DMSI helped me to overcome that.
I ran it from v1 onwards, lost my virginity and got my girlfriend whilst running 3.01.
08-17-2017, 12:50 PM
(08-14-2017, 12:17 AM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ](08-13-2017, 01:31 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ](08-09-2017, 11:58 PM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]I had big issues with that. Like you wouldn't believe. Years and years of it, not getting over it until 25 years old. DMSI helped me get over self-sabotaging with it's anti-resistance modules.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
So you lost your v-card at 25 years old? And did you get your now girlfriend through DMSI? or when?
Yep, lost it at 25, and got my girlfriend whilst using it too. My problem was quite unique though - I wasn't unattractive, I was very self-sabotaging out of fear. If I hadn't stood in my own way, I could have lost it at any time. So DMSI helped me to overcome that.
I ran it from v1 onwards, lost my virginity and got my girlfriend whilst running 3.01.
Nice man, I'm in the same boat as you, self-sabotage galore. So is your current girlfriend the girl you lost your V to? or you slept with 2 diff girls since u lost ur v?
08-17-2017, 02:29 PM
(08-09-2017, 11:58 PM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
Good luck.
Lol very true. I dont generally disclose my size to who I sleep with before the act. It never comes up in conversation. Often times My X's have told other people how big m dick was and honestly believed they were correct, but the number they gave people was always an inch or two longer than what I actually measured in at. "Oh, really? I thought you were 8 or 9 inches??" lmao.
Anyways - good luck man. Lots of girls are definitely turned on by the idea of them taking your V card. Its naughty and taboo because they're the first and its like theyre taking something from you. Very weird (conceptually) guilty pleasure for girls but it is very common. If you strike it up well with a chick then she's usually going to be cool about it. In fact, if you act like it really isnt a big deal, then girls wont like that as much. They want to feel dirty, like youre vulnerable and theyre going to get away with something. You should verbalize your trust to the girl and let them do their thing. Hell, tell them they can 'take' it by climbing on top. If you act all cool, alpha, macho, yet you're a virgin, then it doesnt really add up in a girls head - makes sense? You could even tell a girl you just want to get it over with and ask them to help you out. Think of it this way - you and a girl hit it off and youre a guy whos had lots of sex before. She wants to get it over with, and you, as an experienced guy who is also horny, are very willing to help her out. Flip that around and thats basically how the girl thinks. Maybe she's never taken a V card before and has always wanted to.
08-17-2017, 11:53 PM
(08-17-2017, 12:50 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ](08-14-2017, 12:17 AM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ](08-13-2017, 01:31 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ](08-09-2017, 11:58 PM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]I had big issues with that. Like you wouldn't believe. Years and years of it, not getting over it until 25 years old. DMSI helped me get over self-sabotaging with it's anti-resistance modules.
I would say that all the advice people give you on penis size is true: you care more about it than the girl. I was terrified of showing my penis to anyone (it's average in length but a bit skinny in girth I think), but when I had sex with my now girlfriend it wasn't a problem. When we started getting more intimate and I shared with her my worries about it, she was surprised. She thought it was a good size, and sometimes when I'm very hard, she even comments on how big it is. It's not, but most girls don't see dick in real life as often as you do (seeing your own everyday) and so when they see a penis they can't really even tell if it's big or not. If you have a six inch penis and you tell a girl it's eight inches, she'll probably believe you.
There are a tiny percentage of women who will care, "size queens". These are generally sluts and probably not girls you would want to sleep with anyway.
So my advice would be to forget about that and jump straight in. Not easy advice, I know, as I resisted it for 25 years, but once you've done it you'll kick yourself for having let it hold you back this long.
Good luck.
So you lost your v-card at 25 years old? And did you get your now girlfriend through DMSI? or when?
Yep, lost it at 25, and got my girlfriend whilst using it too. My problem was quite unique though - I wasn't unattractive, I was very self-sabotaging out of fear. If I hadn't stood in my own way, I could have lost it at any time. So DMSI helped me to overcome that.
I ran it from v1 onwards, lost my virginity and got my girlfriend whilst running 3.01.
Nice man, I'm in the same boat as you, self-sabotage galore. So is your current girlfriend the girl you lost your V to? or you slept with 2 diff girls since u lost ur v?
Same girl.