Subliminal Talk

(08-31-2012, 07:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I think I am going to start adding fear destruction to everything since fear seems to be the leading issue underlying almost everything else.

Great idea Shannon! I've been running BASE for quite a while already, and so far it hasn't address my fears yet. I would love to see fear handled more aggressively in the future (especially in all the major six-stage subs).

(08-31-2012, 07:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Have been where you are, Mat. You know what got me through? Alpha. And in some directions, being forced. But Alpha is what I owe most of my transformation to, since 2006. I think I am going to start adding fear destruction to everything since fear seems to be the leading issue underlying almost everything else.

What about a sub that just deals with fear? Fear of failure, Fear of success and others that serve no purpose. I think fear of success and failure are my number one concern when it comes with woman, and you could throw in procrastination for good measure. I'm running Alpha to combat that and WM to hopefully make a difference.

Whenever I go out to meet woman I come up with every stupid excuse not to approach and it's becoming a major problem, even though I'm a good looking and intelligent guy. Then when I come home I feel like a complete idiot for not taking action. Even messaging a woman online is a problem, again I just keep making excuses for myself and procrastinate on it. This has been going on for years and I really need this handled for once and for all especially now that I'm in my late 30's.

It's like my subconscious is making me avoid it.

I'd say that's exactly what's happening. I am finding that AM 5.0 and SM 2.0 have done absolute wonders for me with things like that. I used to be so bad I couldn't leave the house sometimes. Now, I find myself stir crazy if I don't go out every few days even though I am alone most of the time. I don't drink alcohol, but I go to bars to socialize and I find that I just don't care about women... I don't need them, but I do enjoy their company, and that relaxedness makes them enjoy my company so much that they just naturally seem to want to talk to me now.

But, I am working specifically on a fear destroyer, because not only is it going to be important on it's own, but the core of that can go into Woman Magnet 2.0 as well.

(09-01-2012, 10:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'd say that's exactly what's happening. I am finding that AM 5.0 and SM 2.0 have done absolute wonders for me with things like that. I used to be so bad I couldn't leave the house sometimes. Now, I find myself stir crazy if I don't go out every few days even though I am alone most of the time. I don't drink alcohol, but I go to bars to socialize and I find that I just don't care about women... I don't need them, but I do enjoy their company, and that relaxedness makes them enjoy my company so much that they just naturally seem to want to talk to me now.

But, I am working specifically on a fear destroyer, because not only is it going to be important on it's own, but the core of that can go into Woman Magnet 2.0 as well.

I think the ego plays a big part, maybe it's the subconscious making you avoid rejection by protecting your ego?
But please put a fear and procrastination destroyer in WM 2.0. I'll be doing it after I finish AM 5.0. I really need this handled for once and for all.

I'll certainly do what I can... but fear is a challenging opponent.

Spiral Wrote:What if you tried Everything Is Possible with BASE? I'm sure it will give you plenty of ideas and it sounds like your ideal situation would be to work for yourself. OR you can run LM with Attract Positive Energy or winner's mindset and win the lottery most definitely

Pure financial freedom and with that you can do whatever it is you want to do. I'm not guaranteeing you will win the lottery.. but let me know how it goes

I'll keep it in mind Spiral. Right now I feel like after running ASC for a couple of weeks I am feeling like the world is my oyster. I think my only issue is just interacting with people. It's been my vice for as long as I could remember and taking care of it has been a lifelong journey. The way I see it is if you have personal freedom, where other's don't affect you, then it's easy to make money on your own. There are a lot of naysayers out there who try to drag you down to their level and tell you to get your head out of the clouds. I'm starting to rise above that, I'm seeing that people really don't question things enough or continue to parrot what other's have said.

(08-31-2012, 07:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Have been where you are, Mat. You know what got me through? Alpha. And in some directions, being forced. But Alpha is what I owe most of my transformation to, since 2006. I think I am going to start adding fear destruction to everything since fear seems to be the leading issue underlying almost everything else.

Fear is that invisible force that just stops me in my tracks at times. The problem is I don't know what it is exactly. It's just fear itself. It might be fear of rejection, failure, or something else, but it's just like running into an invisible wall.

I'm probably going to run alpha again instead of sex magnet. If I get a job soon and some money I'll buy alpha 5.0. If not I'll just run the 2011 version. But I've been through Alpha twice now. Each time I felt like I made progress to a bigger goal. The first time was a huge improvement. The second time, a little bit more, but I had to really look for the change to see it, but I knew it was there.

I don't think change is a quantifiable thing a lot of the time. My assumption is that if I run alpha again I'll improve just a little bit, but I think change is all dependent on your mentality. I could have a complete shift in my beliefs this time around that is bigger than both run throughs combine. I can't really know until I do start it up again.

I'd say that fear destruction would make things more effective. On top of regular fear, there even exists fear of ridding myself of fear. I'm sure a lot of people deal with that too. I don't know what it is, but I think if I let go of fear then I'll become some jerk who treats people poorly and I'll make poor decisions. I think part of the problem is I have this idea in my head of what life would be like without so much fear, but that idea is only imaginary and it is impossible to truly tell what my life would be like. So I have these assumptions that aren't even based in reality, but I believe that it might happen.

AM 5.0 is not going to change you "a little bit" compared to 2011. It's light years ahead. In Stage 1, I and several others have experienced things that previously required stages 4, 5 or 6 to get to. AM 5.0 is of such magnitude that I am in awe of it... and I created it!

And as for what you'd become like without fear, Mat, have you noticed that you are following in my footsteps more closely than anyone else? How I always understand because I have been there? How you find my advice so specifically effective? Maybe... if you let go of fear... you'd be more like... me!

And really, I'm not such a bad guy. But seriously, without fear, you choose who and what you want to be. I choose to try to live my life with self respect and self reliance and a sense of honor, because I know those things are what keep me emotionally healthy. Every person has their own path. But when you recognize the fear and start disassembling it, you know what you're left with when it's gone?

Freedom.

And that's because it was you who created those walls and doors and locks to limit yourself out of fear. When the fear is gone, so are the walls and doors and locks! You can literally do ANYTHING.

And I can tell, based on how closely you are following in my footsteps, that it is your destiny to overcome these fears.

(09-03-2012, 05:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]AM 5.0 is not going to change you "a little bit" compared to 2011. It's light years ahead. In Stage 1, I and several others have experienced things that previously required stages 4, 5 or 6 to get to. AM 5.0 is of such magnitude that I am in awe of it... and I created it!

And as for what you'd become like without fear, Mat, have you noticed that you are following in my footsteps more closely than anyone else? How I always understand because I have been there? How you find my advice so specifically effective? Maybe... if you let go of fear... you'd be more like... me!

And really, I'm not such a bad guy. But seriously, without fear, you choose who and what you want to be. I choose to try to live my life with self respect and self reliance and a sense of honor, because I know those things are what keep me emotionally healthy. Every person has their own path. But when you recognize the fear and start disassembling it, you know what you're left with when it's gone?

Freedom.

And that's because it was you who created those walls and doors and locks to limit yourself out of fear. When the fear is gone, so are the walls and doors and locks! You can literally do ANYTHING.

And I can tell, based on how closely you are following in my footsteps, that it is your destiny to overcome these fears.

Thanks Shannon. I do realize how alike I am to you. Which is awesome because it does give me a lot of hope for my own future. At the same time it helps me realize that I am on the right track.

After running the ASC 5G for a week or two I'm realizing really how much freedom I could attain. Before I stumbled onto these subliminals I always had the attitude of "it's just not me". I settled a lot of the time and after a while I feel like I built up those walls and doors even more. That fear can really cause you to believe things about yourself that aren't even true. I started closing myself off to opportunities and I hadn't even realized it.

Also the fact that I found this website and have such a similar mindset to you can't be pure coincidence. Recently I've been thinking if I did live a life without fear growing up would I be more likely to stop trying to improve myself? As rough as things have been for me over the years, when I do grow more as a person it just makes me that much more appreciative of it. But it's like you said Shannon, it's my destiny to overcome these fears.

If you're following in my footsteps... it is most assuredly your destiny.

Ok so I'm sitting here and I'm trying to get a hold of all the thoughts buzzing around in my head. I'm starting to realize that the sheer quantity of these thoughts is what burns me out the most. I'm very obsessive and I get caught in these thought loops. Once I'm stuck in them it's hard to pull myself out, so it's important that I catch it before it happens.

Now I've never been diagnosed with OCD, but I do feel like I've got it to some degree. I don't engage in rituals though, most of the rituals are in the form of mental rumination. Like with a lot of disorders the answer seems to be medication. Something about serotonin not being balanced properly. I don't trust drugs a lot, especially when it's more of a guess and the substantial evidence still isn't there.

So I believe for me, OCD is a symptom of a need to control. I also believe it's due to having issues in my life, which are largely subconscious, and burning my brain out obsessing over how to fix them. Most of this can be helped by practicing being the watcher of thoughts and not becoming overly attached to them. But OCD is an anxiety spectrum disorder and anxiety is usually a product of fear. Again I come back to the fear and how it turns my world upside down. I believe that fear is being manifested in my conscious mind as OCD.

Gotta say im glad to hear im not alone on this one. This pretty much describes word for word my life over the last 3 years. I found medication helped a little with it but at the same time i was hiding away and distracting myself from facing it. Ive also found subs tend to make it worse but most likely due to the fact that they are dealing with fears etc.Im yet to find a therapist who really understands it though my current one does a little.

My thoughts are that fear is the root of anxiety which is the source of the need for control to deal with fear, which in turn is your source of OCD behavior, which itself is... seeking control. Fear seems to spawn "trees" of behavior responses.

I'm thinking that once I figure out how to deal with the root fears... if I even can... the rest will necessarily die too.

(09-05-2012, 11:42 AM)jimbobday Wrote: [ -> ]Gotta say im glad to hear im not alone on this one. This pretty much describes word for word my life over the last 3 years. I found medication helped a little with it but at the same time i was hiding away and distracting myself from facing it. Ive also found subs tend to make it worse but most likely due to the fact that they are dealing with fears etc.Im yet to find a therapist who really understands it though my current one does a little.

Glad to know I'm not the only one either. But yeah I've noticed that sometimes when a sub is affecting me my thoughts kind of go into overdrive. Relaxation and training my brain to not feel the need to obsessively go over stuff has helped a little. I really need to discipline my mind more and I believe that takes hard work. So while medication could be beneficial, I just wouldn't be able to tolerate such a foreign substance in my body.

(09-06-2012, 02:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]My thoughts are that fear is the root of anxiety which is the source of the need for control to deal with fear, which in turn is your source of OCD behavior, which itself is... seeking control. Fear seems to spawn "trees" of behavior responses.

I'm thinking that once I figure out how to deal with the root fears... if I even can... the rest will necessarily die too.

Nicely put Shannon, I couldn't agree more. I think before I used a lot of these subliminals my fear was a lot bigger. Now it's growing smaller, but it's still there. I'm still not exactly sure what the fear is tied to, but I think because of my overly sensitive nature things from my childhood might have affected me more than some other individuals. Overall I think it just involves a lot of rewriting of that negative programming I internalized over the years.

I just started working out again today. Nothing major. Just a few pushups, pullups, and bodyweight squats. I think I'm going to keep it light for now. I have a tendency to want to rush head first into something, crash and burn hard because I'm not conditioned for it, and then start to hate exercise.

And I started thinking about what I'd like to do vs what I feel like I should do. When I was younger I was very upset that I was on the more slender side, so I really wanted to bulk up. Nowadays, I really don't care haha. I'm not in shape fitness wise, my cardio is probably abysmal. But I've got a healthy body, decent muscle tone, not too skinny but not rippling with muscle either. It got me thinking, what was the reason I wanted to pack on more muscle? Mostly for the attention from women. I think aspiring for a model like physique is ok in some ways, but there's a certain point where I think some men are just as guilty of being self conscious of their bodies as women. And also I see a lot of guys try to affirm their masculinity through their bodies, which I think is just further proof that guys aren't being taught the right lessons in todays society.

Now don't get me wrong I think it's great that guys want to get stronger or get a better physique, it just helps a lot with self esteem. But there's only so much a good physique can do if the internal beliefs are negative. And like anything else where there is misery, someone's profiting off of it.

Anyway rambling aside. I realized I just want a healthy body, maybe a bit athletic looking. In the past when I started a workout I'd be so obsessed with training like a madman. I hated my workouts, I'd always question why I was doing them. I wasn't really training for anything, I didn't really need explosive strength, I didn't need to be able to do 100 meter sprints and track my time, and I didn't need to train to do 1 handed pushups.

I realized that yet again, fear was the culprit behind my actions. I wanted to be stronger so nobody could hurt me and if I was in a situation in the future I'd be strong enough to fend off somebody. Always that feeling of "just in case". But you know what? I think a lot of that just stemmed from not being strong enough as a kid internally. So now that I realized that I can just do my own workouts and enjoy them. And if one day it all changes and I do want to get all crazy with my workouts again that's cool too.

The one thing I'm always realizing is that people are all so different. I have a bad habit of comparing myself to others and judging myself based off of that. When the most important thing is to just live my life for myself and do what makes me happy.