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Shannon,

In terms of updates, the healing seems to be progressing and maybe winding down. I feel very little anger. However, I do still feel wary about interacting with women. Some days I don't want to interact with anyone. Perhaps I might say that even though the idea of sexual involvement with a woman is now appealing to me (for a few weeks it wasn't), but there aren't any women I'm interested in. It's very odd. It's not that I think none of them are good enough. It's more like none have given me a reason to be interested in them or take the initiative with them. They just aren't motivating for me. I don't know how else to describe it. It's a very odd experience.

I think I also had a few weeks that some men were acting like I was intruding on their territory. Like they saw me as a threat. They were also sneaky about it. Like watching me out of the corner of their eyes and following me as I shopped. Very odd. Never happened before.
(01-23-2017, 09:17 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]@bits

I wanted to take time to thoughtfully consider your post.

I always appreciate your insightful, thoughtful, and comprehensive answers! Thank you!

Being the opposite of aloof... could you say a bit more about that. That "being aloof" has been dogma that's been drilled into our heads for years by "experts".

Being in a good mood is something I could do better because I often approach more to the neutral side.

Thinking about funny moments to get that state on the inside is a great concrete method!

I do need to do most of the initial talking and keep it light. That is spot on! I tend to want to ask more in depth questions because I want to know who I'm talking with. Although this has worked for me in the past, I now get these confused stares. So I think you're right that they are in their heads in an introverted way and feeling attracted to me or viewing as higher status, and I bet they are not used to that.

I need to tone down the James Bond. That again is spot on.

Looking up interviews of celebrities with people who don't usually interview such people is a great idea! I watched a few interviews with Brad Pitt, and think I have an idea of what you're talking about. His body language is relaxed, and from time to time he's self-effacing. He also is humble such as explaining what he does as hard work over talent. He accepts his praise by also talking about something he did that was naive on the way to his success. When ever someone tries to elevate him, he takes himself off that pedestal. Were there other things you think are examples of what he does?

Yea sure, being aloof, at least the way most people "teach" it is to pretend like you could care less. If you're perceived as low status and trying to "build" status that can work but if people think you're high status and do that they think you're a jerk. To me aloof is avoiding eye contact, giving short replies, not really listening, being one sided with the conversation, closed off body language.

I just came across this body language analysis the other day and it's a pretty good breakdown on how the host tries to get the guest to open up:



As for Brad Pitt i think you nailed everything I noticed, the vibe I get from him is that "this person is offering me value" and in a way they are. Every time he does an interview he gets more exposure and increased revenue for his movies which means more money for him and in he's aware and appreciates that and since "the true self is always coming through" it bleeds into his interactions.

In practical use for us non-celebs what I always keep in the back of my mind is that no matter how small or meaningless an interaction may be it's still better than standing there by myself being bored while waiting in line for a coffee or whatever and it's somebody else giving me a chance to keep my social skills sharp so I'm appreciative of that.
Shannon,

For DMSI v3.1 I was wondering if it's possible to have the sniping effects transcend time and space. Perhaps this is a form of manifesting, but it would seem to me that if the aura effects are outside of time and space then so should the sniping effects. That would mean that the sniping could be arranging sexual partners in the future as well as the present, and distance would be irrelevant.
That's manifestation my friend. Not sniping.
@bits

I've been integrating your ideas. Thank you for suggesting this video and taking the time to find it.
Shannon,

This DMSI series has been humbling, and that may be an understatement. I've been somewhere between overwhelmed and diverted with my inner experiences with v3.0.1. I have internally gone where I could only have imagined.

I think my main ones right now are:

1) Although some women around me respond really well, others stiffen up. I wonder if the comfort needs to be increased. I don't know why some women respond really well and others don't.

2) To be more specific, I've gotten significantly more negative responses and more negative extreme responses than I ever had in my life from women. While it may be that women might be panicked from overwhelming sexual feelings, I wish they would respond to such feelings in a way that they move towards me in a positive, constructive fashion relative to the goals of the program. If other things are causing these negative reactions, I wish I knew how to address such causes to attain the program goals. I'm thinking they may feel very "raw" around me, or perhaps emotionally out of control, and maybe that leads them to react so negatively.

3) Although I'm heterosexual, I would like to see more positive impacts on men. It's always great when men are wanting to be your friend and helping you rather than seeing you as a threat or competing with you. I've seen both positive and negative impacts increase regarding men. Wouldn't it be great if the more men you meet, the more men you get along with, who like you so much they are introducing you to or setting you up with their women friends, women cousins, sisters, etc. Inviting you to parties. What if they were automatically and voluntarily talking about you to all the women they know in such a way that the women who heard about you were eager to go out with you? (I wonder if this is implicitly already in v3.0.1 as a celebrity effect.)

4) A process analogous to fallout would be useful. I think people in general value something they miss more than something that they feel good about in the moment it is in front of them. If some one misses you, you are present in their thoughts when absent rather than drown out with whatever they are experiencing in the moment without you. Rather than them moving on to the next thing and forgetting about you, you are the next thing they want regardless of what they are doing in that moment. Out of sight out of mind would be irrelevant.

5) There seems to be a fine line between being "of high value" and being too valuable. It's as though your value, her feelings, the timing, etc. all have to be "just right" at just the right time, in just the right way, in just the right sequence... which could all be different 5 minutes from now. Whatever is going on, it has to be just right for that woman. If there is a group of women who you are talking with who are all 10s to you, it has to be just right for each individual woman. Better yet, you are so just right, they don't care about anything else, even if it feels wrong to them. I think this is something that just naturally happens when a woman has to have as a man she sees as her best achievable possible option ever. If the aura transcends time and space, this should be theoretically possible.

6) The attitude shift has been surreal. I'm not even sure how to articulate it. As much as I like the idea of being sexually involved with women, there is a simultaneous indifference to it that eclipses such an idea. A paradox that is co-existent. I've been experiencing this to varying degrees for weeks, and I still can't understand what this is.

7) Unexpectedly or not, I've noticed more improvements in my personal ambitions than my "women oriented" ambitions. In fact, I would say I've been neglecting things on the woman side of things. As many women have given me definite, consistent, strong IOIs, there are only a few I might be interested in and none of them enough to follow through on at this point.

I feel humbled to admit that DMSI has been an alien experience to me meaning I'm at a place where I have never been before. As an added bonus, my vocabulary is often at a loss to explain my inner experience. Some of the external results have been perplexing and enigmatic. I say this all without criticism. I say it as best I can for how at a loss for words for how I feel.
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