I wanted to add some stuff that I just remembered from my Saturday night club on DSMI A effects.
Effect on guys was definitely higher than usual. There is a guy that I know from sight from high school that I see sometimes in this club (never talked to him). He is accompanied by a female friend that used to be one of the hottest trashy type girl in high school. So no reason for him to feel any respect for me and never did until now. I crossed path with him while he was dancing last Saturday night, he nodded when he saw me, he never did that before and in his eyes it's like he saw a celebrity. That guy is friend zoned for sure but I'm pretty sure he would/did feel better than me to have this friend girl that I don't have.
Last week or 2 weeks ago that hot girl got hit by the dsmi vibe, I saw her 3 nights in this club while on DMSI, each time she noticed me, first time she got hit, I saw her emotional reaction 2 times, she couldn't hide it, typical crush feeling that you can't control
tension in her movement, erratic movements, she was obviously noticing me each time looking at me.
I don't see that girl as hot anymore as I saw her trashy side (huge emotional burden in her physical appearance about 2 years ago), she is hot according to my friend though. This girl used to not see my existence
even after I approached/talked to her for fun when I was AM5 last stages, in this exact club, that was about 2 years ago I guess.
I didn't go out yet but it seems like my body language is getting stronger, I have a stronger attitude. Past resistance from the first day after starting B is gone and turned into euphoria, feeling good and excited, this was just after I posted during that night.
Day 5 version B:
It seems like I'm eating a lot again, I ate 5 times today, much more than what I was eating a fews days ago. With the quantity I ate my stomach would hurt from too much eating but it doesn't at all.
The aura is getting power up to full power I guess.
Day 6:
Went in a club yesterday, as expected the aura is working better now.
I had a lot of eyes contact from almost every females in my vicinity. All of them checked me at least once at the beginning of the night when everyone is still OK and not tired.
I had a lot of charisma hit from guys too, I could even feel the security guard uneasiness as he doesn’t like me.
End of the night is not as great as usual because there is too much people and every girls just cut off from their surroundings.
The thing I noticed though is that girls tend to look at my feet instead of my eyes when they are in clubs dancing. This is to avoid eyes contact as they are flooded with drunk guys most of the times.
Cons: I don't still don't get approach by girls, even if I do the first step, like dancing very near them or trying to hook while dancing, the only thing they do is looking at me a lot when I'm not near them.
Middle to end of the night they start to ignore me or they start to ignore me when they know I'm interested in them , fear probably, and also cock blocking from mums or friend girls. It makes me crazy to see that the girl friend is jealous and then take a friend girl elsewhere.
Shyness seems to be the problem, they look a lot, more than what is normal but no action at all.
Best I got is a smile in 1 of 30 girls when cross path with them.
(01-21-2017, 07:54 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 6:
The thing I noticed though is that girls tend to look at my feet instead of my eyes when they are in clubs dancing. This is to avoid eyes contact as they are flooded with drunk guys most of the times.
Yea very good sign, it's how girls signal "come dance with me" but towards guys they have a very specific interest in. That way other guys don't notice it and try to get involved because they think "omg this chick is dtf, better swoop in asap". Generally the more attractive the girl, and the more sexually charged or "pickup" focused the environment is, the more subtle she'll be.
My advice for next time when you get iois early in the night like that just chat casually with the entire group or members of her group. No isolating/escalating/pulling, just get them familiar with your face and screen for logistics for what they're doing after the club. If they're driving a long distance, planning to wake up early, etc then only expect to get a phone # from that girl and try to find another with better logistics. If they plan on going out to eat, after party at friends house, etc then just focus on getting "face time" so her friends don't label you as "horny club guy" but "oh hey it's our new friend alpha360!". Only goal is to leave the club with the girl's group for food/after party/etc. Once you're there then you can gaming and escalating on her.
I guess it shouldn't be too hard to do.
Day 7:
I went to that club yesterday again. Even more IOI than last time. I saw a good numbers of girls getting all worked up when they meet my eyes face to face, and I'm just staring at them mostly. Happens almost every time a girl is crossing path with me and she has a good view of my face.
There was even a black girl going from angry looking at me because I took her sit to very submissive, complete reversal of attitude, her reaction wasn't natural all all, never saw that kind of things in my entire life. When facing me she then look away, put her elbow on the table, and turn her back on me, then 2 sec later she left. At first I thought she was going to tell me it's her sit as she looked upset.
Tonight there were even very beautiful girls interested,looking at me, what guys would rate 9 or 10, there was even one looking like a model that I liked. One was kinda trashy, showing her little boobs from her dress, with a lot of males friend with her. Another one was with her boyfriend, very beautiful, when I crossed path with her she went all crazy. Then on the dance floor I saw her again, she couldn't prevent herself from looking at me from time to time, her boyfriend noticed. There was one completely numb like she had no feeling, never look at me but she was facing me and she stayed there for a long time but wasn't giving me any direct attention.
There was a girl that I knew from school, but she gained some weigh, she was looking at me all night too, but seems too reserved for a girl.
I didn't do much with those IOI.
I forgot one, very trashy type of girls, tattoo, dressed trashy, who usually ignores me. When I faced her when leaving the rest room we looked at each other for 3 seconds. I don't like that girl so I didn't smiled at all (I think didn't). But later when dancing alone I saw her passing near me, and then she came back dancing near me after 1 minute like she didn't do on purpose.
So she is next to me with her male friend, each time I looked in her direction but not at her directly I see in my side vision that she is looking at me straightly, waiting for me to look at her.
And this pattern happened at least 4 times, then I looked at her directly and each time I do she looked at me too. She was also trying hard to dance sexy, I could see it and at the same trying to give some attention to the guy she was with. I left after 5 minute, I don't want to do anything with that type of trashy girl. Later I saw her holding the guy hands, it seems like he was her boyfriend
......so this night you went to club and didnt talk to a single girl on version B?
looks like you were just feeling high from all the IOIs you are getting and you kept on doing whats needed to get even more and feel even more better.
This is also a fear base as well. You wanna feel good and dont actually want to see the reality of what the girls will actually respond to you and just base it off of the strong IOI that they are interested...
A trap that we all fall into from time to time... to get out of this cycle you just talk to one of these girls that you are seeing IOIs from which you already know what to do...
I just started B today, pretty excited to see the difference. and hopefully its more execution base
I would say it's more lazy based. I'm testing if girls would come talk to me if I do nothing which is the goal of the program. If I don't get to that I will start to be more active. I have approached a lot of girls in the past in clubs so I don't think approaching is the problem though getting better at it wouldn't hurt.
I also don't want to fall in the trap of becoming an approaching machine because the community is pushing me to do it, peer pressure, "approach 100 girls in a night then you will feel like a real man", I'm more like finding a girl I really like and then talk to her, I didn't have that opportunity last time.
For now I was mostly dancing with girls, trying to hook up without saying anything.
Approach 100 girls is for when you are starting out and needing to get basics and approach down.
I personally dont go over 5 girls a night. some nights i only talk to like 2 girls lol. Talking to girls that your not sexually interested is only useful in the beginning of the night to just get you into more of a socializing mood.
It is best to talk to girls you like for sure, i usually game a hell lot better when its a girl i like.
You and i both know that even if girls wanna fuck you at the spot, it is quite unusual for a girl to come over to open you. They might indirectly with BL, or saying something indirectly liek asking you a question. I find overt ones are a lot more rare... not saying it wont happen. But you are much better off just saying hi.
not saying anything works on dancefloor and you can get quite far with it. when it comes to the time you need to pull.... it wont work.
Version B, Day 27 (version A for 44 days):
I have been behaving a bit differently lately and a lot of stuff happened, I went out a lot, I even started taking dance class.
But what stroked me the most is my new behaviour, which look a lot like when I was on SM3 and even worse actually. This is the full on “jerk animalistic vibe”, I bypassed the limit clearly. I'm not sure it's better or worse though.
I went out with a new group of friends recently, I made sexual jokes all around, the most hilarious jokes I ever found in my entire life. I do good jokes to begin with but that was on another level all together, the type of jokes that is so funny that I can't even prevent myself from laughing to my own jokes. Everyone there was laughing hard to almost every jokes I made and some of them were very out of line completely sexual with some females I just met.
Only one guy there was jealous as I was the centre of attention, he probably thought I was an asshole xD. I didn't got as much females attention lately though but the females there seem attracted, one looked at my lips while I was talking to her. Then she freak out when I left them to dance somewhere else on the dance floor (my friend told me).
But there wasn't anything obvious, at least nothing that I noticed.
During my dance class I had better effects, one brunette was following me around after the class but I didn't talk to her yet. There was a nice blond one too, I had strong eyes contact with her while dancing, first time I see a girl looking at me so straightly like that, it was great, I love eyes contact like that, most girls can't even look at me for 2 sec. Both these women looked at me a lot during the course, more than what I would consider normal, while there were dancing with other partners they would keep checking me at the same time. I was also able to bring the attention on me naturally, most of guy are shy compared to me so it's easy, It's been that easy since my last AM6 run anyway. I don't even realize now how shy people are compared to me, I still feel shy from time to time but when I compare it to what others feels, it's laughable. Body language do help a lot too.
I went to the beach Sunday with a friend, I engaged conversation with 2 girls naturally while there were on the sand setting their towels. It felt completely natural, one girl noticed I was checking her ass female friend before I engaged the conversation, there were tourist though. One seems to enjoy looking at me but there were about to go swimming and we were about to leave so it ended there.
Day 28:
I feel like switching to version A again, besides the 1st week or 2 it seems my external results have gown down. I think the results I had during the start of B was due to the blooming from the A version.
Last night I went out the internal effect seems to be better but external almost nothing compare to previously. I say internal seems better because I felt more natural approaching girls and engaging them, I danced with a girl yesterday in a club.
But I had more women looking at me previously, now I'm more confident but it seems too intense or I'm still adapting I don't know. I say too intense because I feel like a lot of women seems to run off from my presence, like my presence is too sexual. Which wouldn't surprised me because every time I talk with someone, especially a girl I always find something sexual in the conversation. But running was what they did mostly. When I added one spray of Impi Red during the night yesterday it's like I OD almost, I never OD with Impi Red, never and sometimes I use more than that. Yesterday it felt like I was wearing BW not Impi Red or some heavy sexual.
Compared to the first weeks I had not a lot of women looking at me and doing the eyes thing with me when I pass near them looking them in their eyes, it's like I'm a normal person again, it sucks
, I feel confident but it's not the celebrity smiling charisma vibe I'm used to from DMSI, it feels like I'm using SM3.
Though it's strange because I had almost no sexual dream that I remember, my dream seems so boring that I'm too bored to think and remember them.
Its great to read your extremely detailed experiences. I can also reflect on your experiences although its still early days. The last few days I have been listening to hybrid B and have exibited what you refer to as the "jerk animalistic vibe”. The funny thing is I am really comfortable about which makes me wonder about who I really am ?. Am I really a jerk ? possibly a jerk with a big heart.
So I stopped listening last Sunday, on day 29, which mean I'm 4 days off DMSI B.
I noticed that my food intake need to be lowered, I got some pain in my stomach yesterday due to over eating. While on DMSI B I almost never got any stomach problem, at least it was greatly lessened. Also my poo quantity was reduced on DMSI B as I noticed now I eat about the same but I'm rejecting more.
During the last week of DMSI B food intake wasn't as crazy as during the first weeks, I can't believe I would get so used to it that I would not notice I was still eating like a mad dog during the last weeks, the lessened aura effect seems to also confirm that.
I didn't notice any difference yet about how people react to me, I had a dance class yesterday, some looks but it was normal looks as far as I can tell and not a lot of them. The female dance teacher seems to have a preference for me though, she chose to dance with me first out of 3 men, last time she did something similar. The male dance teacher seems to like me also, even said to me he smoked marijuana to get him in the flow while dancing from time to time. I think a lot of guys talk about drugs to impress me, can't be a coincidence so much of them talk drugs with me.
Quote:I think a lot of guys talk about drugs to impress me, can't be a coincidence so much of them talk drugs with me.
Funny, makes sense as for some reason alot of people seem impressed and think it's 'cool'. But someone going on about drugs or alcohol like "Ohh I got sooo smassheed last night" has the complete opposite effect on me than impressing me because I hate both.