Subliminal Talk

I genuine wish for the right man that you want, to scoop you up, you're far too cool for anything less.

I'm sorry you ran into this piece of shit. As horrible as it is it's good that it came out now instead of later after he might have suckered you into even stronger feelings.

Stay strong lady. You do in fact sound awesome.

As far as things to do to impress a woman, sending a video with someone else will almost certainly do the opposite.

Hey Athena,

I normally don't write in other people's journal, but your experience was so terrible that I can't help myself, but to write a response.

First of all, I am so sorry to hear that you went though that terrible incident. I'm gonna say a few things about the guy.

1. If he actually thought that he was going to impress you by showing you how well he can fuck the coworker, he's an idiot. Or at least, he has no clue about you and your personality. So yeah, screw him.

2. If he intended to make you feel hurt, it's even worse, and it also indicates that he's not a real man. He's an insecure and scared boy, who needs to get validated from someone else, and can't take rejection. So yeah, he's definitely nowhere near good enough for you.

Either way, he's definitely not for you, and you want/need a better man. In a way, it's good that you found out before things actually started, but I'm sorry that you found out it in a rather horrible way.

The incident also reminds me of something that a guy once said. The guy said that women have difficult times too (in terms of dating and finding love). If a woman is attractive, many times, if not most of the times, she's gonna be haunted by guys, but only going to be seen as a sexual object, and her personality and other traits get ignored. If a woman is not attractive, many times, if not most of the times, she's going be ignored by guys, and will be pretty much be non-existent for them. They both suck, and thinking about this makes me feel terrible, and even hurtful at times.

I suppose your experience is a bit different, but it nonetheless reminded me of this.

Again, I'm sorry that you had to go through that crap. I hope that you recover soon and find the romantic lover you've been looking for.

(03-18-2017, 09:22 PM)sw72hw Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Athena,

I normally don't write in other people's journal, but your experience was so terrible that I can't help myself, but to write a response.

First of all, I am so sorry to hear that you went though that terrible incident. I'm gonna say a few things about the guy.

1. If he actually thought that he was going to impress you by showing you how well he can **** the coworker, he's an idiot. Or at least, he has no clue about you and your personality. So yeah, screw him.

2. If he intended to make you feel hurt, it's even worse, and it also indicates that he's not a real man. He's an insecure and scared boy, who needs to get validated from someone else, and can't take rejection. So yeah, he's definitely nowhere near good enough for you.

Either way, he's definitely not for you, and you want/need a better man. In a way, it's good that you found out before things actually started, but I'm sorry that you found out it in a rather horrible way.

The incident also reminds me of something that a guy once said. The guy said that women have difficult times too (in terms of dating and finding love). If a woman is attractive, many times, if not most of the times, she's gonna be haunted by guys, but only going to be seen as a sexual object, and her personality and other traits get ignored. If a woman is not attractive, many times, if not most of the times, she's going be ignored by guys, and will be pretty much be non-existent for them. They both suck, and thinking about this makes me feel terrible, and even hurtful at times.

I suppose your experience is a bit different, but it nonetheless reminded me of this.

Again, I'm sorry that you had to go through that crap. I hope that you recover soon and find the romantic lover you've been looking for.

It tends to be more like the wanting sex one.

Sometimes with offline guys I get ignored although I DO on occasion catch a guy on the train staring at me!

But unfortunately, I've even been on two dates with guys from online but we had a meal date and in BOTH cases they ended up suddenly masturbating in their car and begging me for sex!!! (Which they DID NOT get!) i was puzzled cos I was dressed VERY conservatively and I don't think I did anything sexual on the date! I kissed one of them when we went for a walk past these canals, but just kissed! He started it! And with the other one I did NOTHING, didn't even touch his hand, no innuendo, long skirt, long top, it's a mystery!!

Darkness, Nox, Appololux, sw72hw
THANK YOU SO SO SO much for your kind replies, I really appreciate them!!!!

(03-19-2017, 11:24 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]Darkness, Nox, Appololux, sw72hw
THANK YOU SO SO SO much for your kind replies, I really appreciate them!!!!

You're welcome.

(03-19-2017, 11:23 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes with offline guys I get ignored although I DO on occasion catch a guy on the train staring at me!

I suppose gorgeous women can't get attention from every men. If you catch a guy staring you on occasion, I suppose you are quite attractive. (Now, I am tempted to ask you to share your pictures. LOL.)

(03-19-2017, 11:23 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]It tends to be more like the wanting sex one.

But unfortunately, I've even been on two dates with guys from online but we had a meal date and in BOTH cases they ended up suddenly masturbating in their car and begging me for sex!!! (Which they DID NOT get!) i was puzzled cos I was dressed VERY conservatively and I don't think I did anything sexual on the date! I kissed one of them when we went for a walk past these canals, but just kissed! He started it! And with the other one I did NOTHING, didn't even touch his hand, no innuendo, long skirt, long top, it's a mystery!!

Uhh, I hope that wasn't your first date. If it was on a first date, that's crazy, and they are taking it a little too far. (It also indicates that they totally failed to consider you. Sure, there are girls who probably like those stuff, but you don't, and they failed to recognize that about you. Besides, it was more like they were only focused on their needs/desires while completely neglecting you.) Nevertheless, I'm sorry that it happened. Guys should realize that such action can be considered a sexual harassment, especially if it caused trauma or similar sort to the affected person.

Your story reminds me of a woman I've seen on online/Facebook. She's who can be considered as a MILF, who's probably in late 40s to maybe in 50s. She also has a couple of children, as far as I am aware. She was really something special. Sure, she was hot, but she wasn't the hottest or most gorgeous woman I've seen in my life (off/online). Yet, there was something about her. She radiated this aura or some sort of sexual energy flowing that when I saw a few of her pictures, I couldn't help myself, but to release the sexual pressure that has built. I typically don't get that aroused by looking at pictures (if I get even aroused), nor I have ever masturbated to a picture. Yeah, she was wearing something more revealing (elegant but reveling dress, and some bikini pics.), but she wasn't naked. Also, I don't usually dig MILF, so I suppose this woman was an exception.

Given that you have had several of those experiences, I wonder if you may be similar to this woman. You may be radiating so much sexual aura or energy. Have you done any sexual meditation or something similar? I am only asking it, because the woman I mentioned, as far as I am aware, has practices many sexual meditations or similar activities (and she's very opened about sex).

Nonetheless, I think the guys have misbehaved, especially given that you weren't giving any hints about sex. (At the same time, a part of me sympathize with the guys (assuming that you are similar to that woman) as I have no idea if I would have been able to behave better than these guys if I went out on a date with that woman. Still, it wasn't right that they behaved that way, especially since it made you feel bad, and I still believe that they should have behaved better.) It is a good example that guys should be more considerate about their dates, and try to make sense and be considerate of their wants/needs. (It is hard stuff though. I hope you understand that.)

I am not sure if this is going to be helpful, but try to take it in a more positive light: you're very sexy that guys can't resist you, nor can maintain their control. I understand that how it can be very challenging given your experiences, but try to stay positive and build build confidence rather than take it negative.

Again, I hope that you meet your perfect romantic lover soon.

It is like with her, at least a little, yes. Like to some guys I have this well like I naturally have my own aura of sexiness?
Not to everyone of course, but to some of them!
But yeah it tends to get in the way!

(03-19-2017, 08:17 PM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]It is like with her, at least a little, yes. Like to some guys I have this well like I naturally have my own aura of sexiness?
Not to everyone of course, but to some of them!
But yeah it tends to get in the way!

I suppose it's a curse and a blessing to have such a trait. (Which I suppose it feels more like a curse to you at the moment.) Strong aura of sexiness that attracts some guys. Sure, they are gonna be very attracted, and find you irresistible. At the same time, they are probably going to be very sexual, and maybe less romantic. Yet, you want it to be other way around, and take things somewhat slowly. Am I correct about this part?

Hmm, what can Athena do to increase her romantic aura that is strong enough cover some of her sexual aura? (I suppose you want some of your sexual aura, unless you don't like sex at all?) I wish I can give you a suggestion/solution. (If I knew, I'd probably have had gotten at least a single date by now.)

Perhaps you should petition Shannon for DMRI, Develop Maximum Romantic Irritability? LOL Though, I wonder what that would be like. Candlelight dinner everyday? Going to eat from chocolate fountain every week? Walk to a beach to watch sunset every evening? Snuggle in front of fireplace whenever you can? Yum.... the possibilities are endless. Yep, you should go petition for this. LOL

(03-20-2017, 10:01 AM)sw72hw Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2017, 08:17 PM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]It is like with her, at least a little, yes. Like to some guys I have this well like I naturally have my own aura of sexiness?
Not to everyone of course, but to some of them!
But yeah it tends to get in the way!

I suppose it's a curse and a blessing to have such a trait. (Which I suppose it feels more like a curse to you at the moment.) Strong aura of sexiness that attracts some guys. Sure, they are gonna be very attracted, and find you irresistible. At the same time, they are probably going to be very sexual, and maybe less romantic. Yet, you want it to be other way around, and take things somewhat slowly. Am I correct about this part?

Hmm, what can Athena do to increase her romantic aura that is strong enough cover some of her sexual aura? (I suppose you want some of your sexual aura, unless you don't like sex at all?) I wish I can give you a suggestion/solution. (If I knew, I'd probably have had gotten at least a single date by now.)

Perhaps you should petition Shannon for DMRI, Develop Maximum Romantic Irritability? LOL Though, I wonder what that would be like. Candlelight dinner everyday? Going to eat from chocolate fountain every week? Walk to a beach to watch sunset every evening? Snuggle in front of fireplace whenever you can? Yum.... the possibilities are endless. Yep, you should go petition for this. LOL

Ha ha unfortunately (?) I DO like sex. I mean, society mostly kinda tells women NOT to be sexual, although it also tells us to act and dress sexual but not to actually BE sexual (confusing much?!) But yes I do like sex. I really do sometimes wish Shannon would make a sub for romance and ooh la la your suggestions there sound SO divine!!

(03-20-2017, 10:01 AM)sw72hw Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2017, 08:17 PM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]It is like with her, at least a little, yes. Like to some guys I have this well like I naturally have my own aura of sexiness?
Not to everyone of course, but to some of them!
But yeah it tends to get in the way!

I suppose it's a curse and a blessing to have such a trait. (Which I suppose it feels more like a curse to you at the moment.) Strong aura of sexiness that attracts some guys. Sure, they are gonna be very attracted, and find you irresistible. At the same time, they are probably going to be very sexual, and maybe less romantic. Yet, you want it to be other way around, and take things somewhat slowly. Am I correct about this part?

Hmm, what can Athena do to increase her romantic aura that is strong enough cover some of her sexual aura? (I suppose you want some of your sexual aura, unless you don't like sex at all?) I wish I can give you a suggestion/solution. (If I knew, I'd probably have had gotten at least a single date by now.)

Perhaps you should petition Shannon for DMRI, Develop Maximum Romantic Irritability? LOL Though, I wonder what that would be like. Candlelight dinner everyday? Going to eat from chocolate fountain every week? Walk to a beach to watch sunset every evening? Snuggle in front of fireplace whenever you can? Yum.... the possibilities are endless. Yep, you should go petition for this. LOL

My girlfriend swears I have this and that I'm the most irritable man alive.

Lol!!! Like even though I LOVE LOVE ❤️ this
idea for a sub & wish Shannon WOULD make it,
I am not sure where the irritability bit comes from.
And now you're making me giggle! Can I have
romance WITHOUT the guys or me getting
irritable? ? I do love SW72hw's replies though
(Name sounds like a London postcode!)

Damn... Nox revealed my spelling mistake (irritability as opposed to irresistiblity )...... Now given that, I wonder if he intentionally made that same mistake.

However, if that is not a mistake and that being maximum romantic for guys results in being irritable, I guess it reveals an interesting insight about male female dynamics in a relationship. (Assuming this is the case, I wonder many guys would feel the same if the case is reversed.)

If Nox made a mistake and that he meant to say irresistible, I guess it also reveals something interesting: I believe that Nox is using DMSI (sexually irresistible) and that this makes him also romantically irresistible. I guess sex is a good catalyst for romance in a committed/involved relationship. This also reveals an interesting male female dynamics: if a guy is sexually irresistible he is also romantically irresistible (given that he is in an involved relationship.) I wonder if the reversible is same. (Does a woman being sexually irresistible equate to romantically irresistible for a man in a relationship?)

(03-24-2017, 11:24 PM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]Ha ha unfortunately (?) I DO like sex. I mean, society mostly kinda tells women NOT to be sexual, although it also tells us to act and dress sexual but not to actually BE sexual (confusing much?!) But yes I do like sex. I really do sometimes wish Shannon would make a sub for romance and ooh la la your suggestions there sound SO divine!!

Enjoying sex, and being romantic? I envy whoever's going to be your next lover.

Well, it's unfortunate that we are still stuck with several thousands old customs that was driven from men's insecurity in confirming that a child was his (up until recently, there really was no good way to confirm that the child is the men's child), issue of heritage (related to confirming the child's bloodline), and the issue of STD (although, if STD is the reason, men should have equally been sexually repressed. I argue that men have been sexually repressed as well (I kinda feel like that there is a different dynamics of repression), but not the same degree as women have been. Hopefully this is not against the rule 4..... It can be quite grey area.

For my taste though, I would want my girlfriend/wife/lover to love having sex, and can easily achieve orgasm. Well, I'd love to have many sex (sadly that hasn't been my case), and that I would like her to experience the joy that the act brings. (I'm not selfish here. I want her to enjoy that.)

I suppose many guys are going to be similar. Therefore, I don't think it's a bad thing. Yes, it's unfortunate that you must have had difficult times due to society's conflicting norms, but it isn't an unfortunate quality for a relationship. (Well, I suppose it can be different, depending on the type of the guy you're in a relationship with. Back in my country, I heard that after a few years in a marriage, guys often wish their wives would leave them alone, instead of asking for sex. ) You just need to get the right man. Of course that's the difficult part. (Sigh)

(03-25-2017, 07:31 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]Lol!!! Like even though I LOVE LOVE ❤️ this
idea for a sub & wish Shannon WOULD make it,
I am not sure where the irritability bit comes from.

Let's hope that Nox will clarify what he meant by irritability part. (As I wrote, he might have meant irresistiblity)
At the same time, I can think how it can be irritable for a lover to be romantically/sexually irresistible. I thought about it a bit, and imagined if my girlfriend/lover/wife to be maximum sexually/romantically irresistible. It'd be so good, but so irritable at the same time as her presence would be soooooo distracting that I wouldn't be able to do anything other than doing something romantic or having sex.

(03-25-2017, 07:31 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]Can I have
romance WITHOUT the guys or me getting
irritable?

I'd say yes, depending on the person.

(03-25-2017, 07:31 AM)Athena Wrote: [ -> ]I do love SW72hw's replies though
(Name sounds like a London postcode!)

Speaking of it, it does sound like a postcode of UK and Canada, and I did a search. It is apparently a postcode in London! (SW7 2HW) I want to clarify though. I didn't have an intention to make that a case. (This was an ID made by my mom when I was young, first getting started with internet, and setting up an email address and such. I stayed with it as I lack creativity in naming things.) Perhaps, it's a destiny that I go and hang out in that spot eventually in my life? (According to Google search, it's where Embassy of Venezuela is...... But there are ton of shops and restaurants around it. Or could this mean that my lover is going to be a Venezuelan? )