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Useful information.

(09-18-2016, 04:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Useful information.

Good to know that you've found this useful and I'm glad I could help.

More updates:

• I noticed again that tiredness/fatigue starts 6-8 hours after finishing the 5 loop set.
  
• I again got really really tired today and have been feeling like spending time by myself - indoors. Could have gone out and done something, but I decided to go home after work, instead.
  
• Tried to resist going to sleep by running errands, but eventually gave in about 2.5 hours before my usually bed time. Woke up a couple of times in the middle of night and eventually had about 7 hours of sleep in total.
  
  • I couldn't test after how long the effects of sub wore off as I didn't stay awake for that long. I had another thought though... for some reason ever since starting 5 loops of v2.4 I haven't been able to sleep much. I do sleep - but never for more than 3-4 hours continuously.
    
  • I'm still trying to think whether it's the increased sleep requirements of 5.5g or if it's something else. For now I'll try to go to bed early, but the fact that I'm more or less useless from a productivity perspective after in the late afternoons/evenings is bothering me a bit.
    

OK! So last few days have been a roller coaster ride of emotions for me. Moving between feeling normal and feeling sad and down throught the day. Also had images of a family member flash in front of me - often in an accident/death situation. A bit disturbing.

-Have been coming across articles related to supernatural and ghosts while browsing.

-I have been unable to derive any conclusions on how much time the sub stays active for and how long before its effects wear off. My body has been responding to v2.4 in a weird way. I still feel like I don't have enough energy. I have managed to extend my waking time upto my usual bed time. Still, I'm sleeping anywhere between 5 and 6 hours. Usually I sleep 7-8 hours.

-I've started eating more often during the day.

-In general I'm feeling tired all day. This is more or less a lack of sleep kind of tiredness. Also, experiencing body aches. (Shannon: GPR any time soon?)

-I do notice a distinct change in bodily sensation 6-8 hours after I wake up. I am thinking maybe this is the time when the impact of a 5 loop set overnight starts to lose intensity.

-Haven't noticed any extraordinary smiles or anything like that, however, a co-worker (married) and I continued to talk about work for more than an hour and she showed no signs of stopping. We are on good terms though.

GPR12 is still undergoing testing. I have had too few test reports to release it, but I will be making GPR14, so it may be a bit.

(09-21-2016, 04:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]GPR12 is still undergoing testing. I have had too few test reports to release it, but I will be making GPR14, so it may be a bit.

Thanks for the prompt response, Shannon. I'm looking forward to it - should be helpful with the pain associated with an accident related injury to cervical spine.

BTW, I didn't realise you read each and every post on the forum. Commendable! and I appreciate it.

As for the sub, I was extremely tired last night and was asleep as soon as I hit the mattress. As a result didn't get to listen to the sub while I was asleep. I listened to the sub during the day instead. Result: Feeling much better in the evening compared to past few days since I started 5 loops of v2.4.

My observation: Using the sub causes energy build up (is this what is called the aura?). Also, using the sub causes a lot more energy to be used up compared to resting state. In general I would have had to be awake for about 16-18 hours during the day and would have done a bit of exercise before I felt this exhausted. Since the exhaustion kicks in about 12-14 hours after waking up, I'd say the sub causes the body to use about 30-35% more energy. Since I am not doing any physical exercise these days (which means not wasting energy on anything else) I'd add another 10-15% to it. Essentially, 40-50% more energy usage in total.

Surprisingly, I'm not sure if all this energy is coming from food. I have starting eating more, but I feel that I am eating more than my body is consuming. I wonder what the other source of energy could be.

Edit/Update: Just read Shannon's journal at http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1233-p...#pid133040

Quote:"I have concluded that 2.4 is struggling in part because it cannot extract energy from food fast enough."

I completely agree with it and it makes sense why I feel like I'm eating more, but my body is notconsuming all the food and as a result I feel exhausted/drained after 12-14 hours.


On the topic of exhaustion, what could be the reason for exhaustion? Body not being able to convert the food into energy in a timely fashion? Diet? Energy and oxygen being diverted away from brain (resulting in an 'exhausted' feeling)? Any ideas?

Anyhow, I said something of sexual nature to a girl at work - something I wouldn't normally do. Maybe autopilot? Does it mean there's a possibility of sex with her? I don't actually like her and don't find her attractive Anyway, let's see what happens.

Another observation: while listening to v2.4, I've noticed that if I am interrupted and am not able to finish the entire loop, I start feeling low on energy. I wonder what causes that.

(09-22-2016, 01:31 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-21-2016, 04:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]GPR12 is still undergoing testing. I have had too few test reports to release it, but I will be making GPR14, so it may be a bit.

Thanks for the prompt response, Shannon. I'm looking forward to it - should be helpful with the pain associated with an accident related injury to cervical spine.

BTW, I didn't realise you read each and every post on the forum. Commendable! and I appreciate it.

I actually don't have time to read all posts, and some few I intend to read slip through the net also. But I do what I can.

Quote:As for the sub, I was extremely tired last night and was asleep as soon as I hit the mattress. As a result didn't get to listen to the sub while I was asleep. I listened to the sub during the day instead. Result: Feeling much better in the evening compared to past few days since I started 5 loops of v2.4.

My observation: Using the sub causes energy build up (is this what is called the aura?). Also, using the sub causes a lot more energy to be used up compared to resting state. In general I would have had to be awake for about 16-18 hours during the day and would have done a bit of exercise before I felt this exhausted. Since the exhaustion kicks in about 12-14 hours after waking up, I'd say the sub causes the body to use about 30-35% more energy. Since I am not doing any physical exercise these days (which means not wasting energy on anything else) I'd add another 10-15% to it. Essentially, 40-50% more energy usage in total.

Quote:I have noted that I consistently eat approximately 3-4 times as much food, and I am under the impression that I am consistently burning at least three times the calories. It is quite possible that your estimate is low because you are not accounting for the energy that was supplied by the food when considering physical exhaustion.

[quote]Surprisingly, I'm not sure if all this energy is coming from food. I have starting eating more, but I feel that I am eating more than my body is consuming. I wonder what the other source of energy could be.[

Edit/Update: Just read Shannon's journal at http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1233-p...#pid133040
[quote]"I have concluded that 2.4 is struggling in part because it cannot extract energy from food fast enough."

I completely agree with it and it makes sense why I feel like I'm eating more, but my body is notconsuming all the food and as a result I feel exhausted/drained after 12-14 hours.

Please explain the bold part. You mean you just cannot extract energy fast enough? Remember that the program is attempting to surge ahead and is being limited by the ability of the body to extract energy, so instead of a spike that gets held, we have a spike that drops off to what the speed limit of the digestive system is.

Quote:On the topic of exhaustion, what could be the reason for exhaustion? Body not being able to convert the food into energy in a timely fashion? Diet? Energy and oxygen being diverted away from brain (resulting in an 'exhausted' feeling)? Any ideas?

Exhaustion will come from the fact that energy is being expressed through the aura, and a huge amount of energy is being fed to the brain not only to process all these instructions, but to execute them and work on various things. Manipulating large amounts of energy also requires large amounts of energy, so it;s entirely possible that the body is using reserves of energy that would normally go to the rest of the body, and feeding them to the brain instead, or projecting them.

Quote:Anyhow, I said something of sexual nature to a girl at work - something I wouldn't normally do. Maybe autopilot? Does it mean there's a possibility of sex with her? I don't actually like her and don't find her attractive Anyway, let's see what happens.

Another observation: while listening to v2.4, I've noticed that if I am interrupted and am not able to finish the entire loop, I start feeling low on energy. I wonder what causes that.

There are good reasons why we include the ASRB, and why you should observe it. It's a sort of short circuit effect sometimes experienced during interrupt that seems to stem from a partial implementation of the instruction set, given how important those instructions are for handling the energy properly.

(09-22-2016, 04:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2016, 01:31 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Surprisingly, I'm not sure if all this energy is coming from food. I have starting eating more, but I feel that I am eating more than my body is consuming. I wonder what the other source of energy could be.

Please explain the bold part. You mean you just cannot extract energy fast enough? Remember that the program is attempting to surge ahead and is being limited by the ability of the body to extract energy, so instead of a spike that gets held, we have a spike that drops off to what the speed limit of the digestive system is.

I'll try to explain in detail:
-During the day I often get this feeling in my stomach which makes me think that I'm hungry or need food. I usually don't snack between the meals, but lately I have been eating food outside of breakfast, lunch and dinner.

-As a result of the additional food in my body, I notice two things:
#1. I can feel my waistline growing - it's just a feeling, I haven't actually measured it. I feel it by how tight my jeans feel at the waist.
#2. At times when I get hungry and eat, soon after eating I feel full. So full that I feel food in my throat (figuratively speaking), but I still feel the hunger pangs. Which originally made me feel that the energy I feel as a result of sub must be coming from something other than food as well (i.e. a mix of sources: food and something else - I don't know what though)

-However, after reading your response to my post, I agree that it sounds more like the food is not being converted into energy fast enough. I didn't think about it, but it makes sense when you say that the digestive system is not able to process the food fast enough for some reason.

Hope this helps explain what I was trying to convey, better.

Yes, obviously we have a bottleneck here, and a risk of weight fluctuation. So I have to find an alternate energy source, or multiple options. Can't have half the users gaining weight an the other half losing weight, and it occurs to me that the speed of the digestive process is going to differ by physiology, which will also directly affect how effective the program is by virtue of how much energy it has available to use.

-Better day today. Energy was better. Didn't get exhausted in the afternoons like last two weeks or so. Exhaustion set in about 2-3 hours before my usual bedtime.
-One thing I noticed was that by the afternoon I was really irritable. Any small annoyance from anyone was enough to irritate me.
-Another thing I noticed 3-4 times today was that some girls actually turned their heads away from me, instead of looking at me. Wonder why! Is this an IoD (disinterest) instead of an IoI? Or is it something else?

(09-23-2016, 03:31 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Another thing I noticed 3-4 times today was that some girls actually turned their heads away from me, instead of looking at me. Wonder why! Is this an IoD (disinterest) instead of an IoI? Or is it something else?

This is something else that most of the 2.4 listeners have been trying to wrap our minds around. Getting massive respect from men and the cold shoulder from women.

When the IOI's kick back in... your IDGAF attitude will be so high that receiving IOI's will be normal for you and you won't even notice them!!

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7934-p...#pid133387

(09-23-2016, 08:01 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7938-p...#pid133354

(09-23-2016, 05:37 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]It dawned on me that the IOIs are happening so much that they've become normal and I don't consciously perceive them.

Hi RT!! You sound a lot happier! What Chaos wrote really struck a chord with me because I think it is true. Do think you've become numb to IOIs??

(09-23-2016, 08:14 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, thanks 4K! I feel like I'm just really working through stuff. This subliminal is no joke! When you have a lot of time to sit around and contemplate the inner workings of your mind and life, I think that can make it more difficult. I'm going to just try and keep busy - finding more things to do!

It's certainly possible I've become numb to IOIs. Now that I think of it, our waitress last night had to come back to double check what I ordered (just me, no one else) and she got right in my ear and used her fingernails to scratch my shoulder in a very flirty kind of way. She had a pretty face and big breasts, so the aura had to hit her a bit.

(09-23-2016, 03:31 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]-Better day today. Energy was better. Didn't get exhausted in the afternoons like last two weeks or so. Exhaustion set in about 2-3 hours before my usual bedtime.
-One thing I noticed was that by the afternoon I was really irritable. Any small annoyance from anyone was enough to irritate me.
-Another thing I noticed 3-4 times today was that some girls actually turned their heads away from me, instead of looking at me. Wonder why! Is this an IoD (disinterest) instead of an IoI? Or is it something else?

I've noticed girls who I don't find particularly attractive, seem to look away from me. Definitely noticeable

-Another emotional roller coaster day. Have been having flashes of certain stressful events from past relationships. Have read that others are having these as well. Hopefully, it's something being healed.
-I did notice a few stolen looks from 2-3 women today.
-Productivity is literally zero - I feel like I'm unable to focus.

I think I started to see the ray of light last week on Thu/Fri when I started noticing the following:
-Some girls would look at me for an extra second (these were handful in number, but surprisingly most of these girls were with other guys - in a car, at a supermarket etc. They'd be looking in the general vicinity as if trying to find something and then for a second or so their gaze would fixate on me before taking their eyes off of me and continuing with what they were doing)
-Spoke to a friend who was with his friend (a girl, ~30yo) for about 5-7 minutes. Next day my friend tells me his friend (the girl) said that I (hunk) looked handsome.

Couldn't listen to full five loops for next three days after this. Did listen to full five loops Monday night. Hopefully, I haven't lost much momentum during last three days.

I think the lookaways are either due to intimidation or maybe right now guys are just "unbalanced" and it may be putting women off.