09-25-2016, 07:09 AM
Quote: Dzemoo Wrote:
Being direct and honest is the most beta thing you can do, you have ti lie to women and trick them to get what you want never reveal your true self
Saying to her you love her, while internally being cold is more alpba than saying you hate her while still havibg feelinfs for her
I have no problems being a man ***** as long as i get what i want, i have no problems crawling to a women and use beta game when i see alpha game dont work on her, i try different things out and see how they go you have to be flexible as a player ots ok to lose your outer frame as long as you keep your inner frame strong
Thats what some guys dont get they want to game all women in the same way
The most effective game is neither the beta game nor the alpha game its the nice asshole game, superifcally nice internally evil and manipulative thats the way of the most pussy juice
I'm not attacking you with this, but I have to call you out.
Dzemoo, more and more, I am concluding that you are completely confused at best. You get in your own way with women and life more than almost anyone I have ever met. One of your biggest problems is that you are not very good at thinking logically.
Lying to women is the most beta thing you can do. It means you don't have the BALLS to just put it out there and let the chips fall where they may. What you completely fail to understand is that you are a slave to your own dick, and as such, you become a slave to pussy, and thus women. Alphas have, first and foremost, self control.
It is beta to lie because it means you cannot achieve your goals on your own merit. It is alpha to be honest because being honest is too scary and difficult for most people to do, and it requires strength and another alpha trait, self mastery.
Another issue you have is that you need to clear emotionally, as it is apparent that you have suffered a lot of hurt in your life and probably always believed the lie society perpetuates that men don't have emotions, aren't manly/good enough if they do, aren't allowed to feel anything, and so you stuffed it down and tried to hide from it. I have news for you. You are human, first and foremost, and humans, male or female, have and must deal with having, emotions.
You change what you believe like the wind changes direction, and it is becoming more and more apparent that you're just lost and confused. But when you say things like this...
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I have no problems being a man ***** as long as i get what i want, i have no problems crawling to a women and use beta game when i see alpha game dont work on her, i try different things out and see how they go you have to be flexible as a player ots ok to lose your outer frame as long as you keep your inner frame strong
...it tells me that you really are a slave to your dick, and until that changes, you will never come across to women as much more than needy. I think that's what's killing it for you.
The most effective game I have ever found is no game at all. When you have genuinely mastered yourself and you don't need women, or pussy, or anything else, you don't need to "play games" to get companionship or sex and you won't put up with games from women either. Genuine alpha does not care if they have a woman. Betas are willing to stoop to any level to get what they need, and they need it because they cannot provide for themselves.
Ever since I stopped lying, years ago (I was ridiculously beta back then, by the way) and just started being honest, I have had vastly better experiences with women and vastly more high quality and worthwhile women in my life. If I can't tell them the truth, I just decline to comment.
But this ...
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Being direct and honest is the most beta thing you can do, you have ti lie to women and trick them to get what you want never reveal your true self
... is just assinine. It takes strength to be honest, and self mastery to not be a slave to your own dick. Those are alpha traits, and when you really do achieve self mastery and inner strength you'll see a huge difference in how others treat you.
But right now, you're a slave to sex and you're looking outside yourself for what you need to find inwardly when it comes to your emotions. You need women as long as you're in that state, and that is what makes a beta. No real alpha would ever go for "beta game". Alpha doesn't need to get a woman because he's self supplying emotionally and he isn't a slave to sex.
The good news is, I think the healing modules in DMSI are really doing a number on you. For the good. But don't go around saying that those of us who have actually achieved success are eta because you don't have the strength to be honest and deal with the consequences.