(08-10-2016, 08:10 AM)Rayhon Wrote: [ -> ]d (08-09-2016, 08:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2016, 03:13 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, have you considered stopping DMSI and having your girlfriend run it to see what it's like being on the receiving end? Would that perhaps give you any more insight on any change you think needs to be made?
RTBoss, what would you do if I suggested you stop using it and have your wife use it instead?
I have had her use it under controlled circumstances, and I have observed what you're talking about but I'm not about to have her use it for very long for the following two reasons:
1. I don't care to make her prone to "meeting half way" on approaches of other guys who want to **** her, and even without the aura she gets approached daily, even though she is not physically impressive compared to the sort of women I usually date. I have not had an easy time finding this "faithfulness" thing in a woman. Why would I encourage the only one I have found who has been faithful to go **** someone else?
2. She is using, and very much needs, E2. When we got sick and she stopped using it, took a week for her to flip out because she wasn't done processing some of her insecurities and fears based on past traumas, and the program wasn't masking them from her conscious mind anymore. I nearly walked away from the relationship over it.
So, nice try.
Shannon, I value your opinion more then anyone else's on the board based on the fact that your the most experienced, one of the oldest ( i think?) and came from a place of social anxiety.
Thank you.
Quote:What do you think is the nature of women and faithfulness. I notice some guys on this board have a very misogynistic and negative outlook on women and I want to know what your beliefs are.
I believe that the nature of a human animal is primarily that of the animal species and not the gender. Gender plays a large part, but ultimately it is more accurate to ask what the nature of the human is, not the female or the male.
The nature of the human animal is to reproduce. That is why we are only outnumbered on this planet by insects, who have hundreds and thousands of offspring at a time. We are not even the most sexual animals on earth, but we are second only to insects in number.
That tells me that even with social and religious controls on sexuality, and birth control,we as humans are still having reproductive sex like crazy.
It is the nature of the beast to seek out the expression of it's genes, and the First Purpose of
all physical life is to reproduce.
Faithfulness is not an inherent human trait. That is why you see society and religion trying so hard to enforce it, and constantly and continually failing. And they will always fail, because the truth will always win out. And the truth is, we are basically complicated meat bags expressing genetic needs to reproduce.
The nature of this expression is aimed at producing survival of the species. Survival requires that the strength and adaptability of the species exceed the challenges of the environment, and the greater that strength and adaptability exceeds the environmental challenges presented, the stronger the chance of survival for the species.
To have the strongest children, a man must seek out the most reproductively fit females (who he instinctually perceives to be the most sexually desirable, i.e. "hottest"), and a woman must do the same.
But a man has very little effort to produce the seed, while the woman must carry, gestate, care for and generally raise the child no matter what the male chooses to do.
The result is that he has very little energy and time investment required of him, but the reverse is true for her. He has nearly unlimited "bullets", but she has only a very small number of rounds she can "fire" during her lifetime in comparison. He can potentially impregnate hundreds of thousands of women in his lifetime, she can have a maximum of what, 25 kids?
Therefore, the drive to achieve the best possible children is strong. If she has a maximum of 20 potential children, or in today's day and age 5 or less is more realistic, it is in her nature to maximize those eggs to be fertilized by the best possible male. To do this, her genetic/instinctual side will do whatever it takes. Her conscious side will restrict this behavior, but it is not easily stopped.
On his side, if he has a girlfriend who is a 5/10 but who gives him unlimited sex in exchange for faithfulness, and he comes across a one time only offer from a 10/10 but he knows he will get caught, what will he do? 9 times out of 10, he will go ahead and jump on that 10, regardless of the consequences, because it is the best possible reproductive scenario, and that is the First Purpose of all physical life!
Both genders will do virtually anything to achieve this goal. It's not just men or women. "Faithfulness" is an artificial construct by society and religion that is used to control people. The natural course of action is for humans to have sex with whomever is the most reproductively fit, who they can have sex with, regardless of whatever pair bonding they may have achieved. That, we have been taught, is wrong, bad, etc. and now it is deeply ingrained in society and our "social hypnosis" on the subject is incredibly powerful.
Of course this does not take into account various practical factors, like taking care of the resulting offspring, STDs, etc. I am simply presenting the point of view of the "selfish gene".
Ultimately, it is in our nature to express our genetic instructions. We can consciously choose to resist or override, but all you have to do is look at the activities of the whole to see what is what.
Quote:I got really misogynistic when I spent years learning PUA information that always implies women are unfaithful, will cheat on the first guy that they have attraction signals for and that you can never trust them to not cheat.
What is your first hand experience and beliefs on the subject.
PUA tends to think in very limited ways. You can never say that all members of any group will always share anything in common other than they are members of said group. So "all women" is automatically wrong unless you finish the statement by saying "are women". A = A. That's it.
Women, like men, come in a variety of personality and physiology types, and some are being expressed positively and some negatively. If you have a man and a woman meet, then, they may be either matched or mismatched based on pole of expression and personality type. One must also consider maturity and experience level.
Not every woman is going to match every man, therefore, and vice versa. It is also true that what you are, you express in ways that attune the reality around you to in such a way that you achieve the interaction with others of that same attunement. So when you believe (Sarge) that you only get positive results when you are hateful, negative etc. you will only experience females who match that attunement, and if you are not really aware of that fact, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
When PUA say that about women, what they are really saying is, "When I treat women in this way, it is because I believe X about women, and I therefore am attuned to Channel X and I only meet those women who are attuned to Channel X, and all such women respond to me and men in way Y."
That doesn't make all women like that. It just means that within the limits of that person's understanding of reality, he only encounters those women who are at the same level of attunement.
Quote:Not only do they have a misogynistic view but they are treating women disrespectfully and apparently getting good results. And I don't want to sink that low to get pussy.
Am I right in thinking these guys are just immature and misogynistic and they are attracting poor women because they themselves are on the same frequency as these bad quality / unfaithful women.
You attract, and experience, what you are and express. We don't need to worry about labels.