(07-08-2016, 05:53 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 04:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I would say that "nofap" means "no orgasm" because ANY orgasm produces the same results. Mastubating to porn has a different effect, but the orgasm is always the same regardless in how it affects your body. So having someone come give you a happy ending is still the same thing. Just you're pretending that it's somehow different because you didn't do it to yourself. Masturation, sex, and happy endings are all the exact same thing; the key is moderation and avoiding pornography.
I think basically what you're experiencing is a combination of the program flooding you with sexual energy, and you resisting part of the programming of the subliminal (the part that tells you to project that energy into the world around you, and cause sex with a woman to happen thereby).
Turning off the sex drive is a cop out. It's there because you need it. You just have to learn how to deal with it properly. You seem to have some issues that aren't finished being cleared yet.
Yeah I had a weird thing going on with nofap, every time I had no orgasm through self I would gain more confidence and notice women giving me more IOI, when I released my load by myself I would notice a decrease in confidence and attention/IOI from women.
So this is why I have been going with nofap, but as of late I am thinking that above what I just mentioned is a weird self fulfilling prophecy (one I would rather not have) and it's starting to lose its grip.
I feel more confident, attractive and self assured, for sure and I know I have issues but I am curious to see what this has in store for me next!
Also, if we don't make mistakes how we meant to learn from them? ....I'll just save myself some money next time and pay myself lol. I'll be rich in no time!
Pay yourself? Isn't that still PAYING FOR SEX?
Self hookering isn't the solution, man! lol
But on a serious note, I think you should focus on understanding your blockages internally, and explore them. Try to understand them rationally and release them.
Either way, enough of this program and you're going to get there, because reasons!
(07-08-2016, 05:53 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 04:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I would say that "nofap" means "no orgasm" because ANY orgasm produces the same results. Mastubating to porn has a different effect, but the orgasm is always the same regardless in how it affects your body. So having someone come give you a happy ending is still the same thing. Just you're pretending that it's somehow different because you didn't do it to yourself. Masturation, sex, and happy endings are all the exact same thing; the key is moderation and avoiding pornography.
I think basically what you're experiencing is a combination of the program flooding you with sexual energy, and you resisting part of the programming of the subliminal (the part that tells you to project that energy into the world around you, and cause sex with a woman to happen thereby).
Turning off the sex drive is a cop out. It's there because you need it. You just have to learn how to deal with it properly. You seem to have some issues that aren't finished being cleared yet.
Yeah I had a weird thing going on with nofap, every time I had no orgasm through self I would gain more confidence and notice women giving me more IOI, when I released my load by myself I would notice a decrease in confidence and attention/IOI from women.
So this is why I have been going with nofap, but as of late I am thinking that above what I just mentioned is a weird self fulfilling prophecy (one I would rather not have) and it's starting to lose its grip.
I feel more confident, attractive and self assured, for sure and I know I have issues but I am curious to see what this has in store for me next!
Also, if we don't make mistakes how we meant to learn from them? ....I'll just save myself some money next time and pay myself lol. I'll be rich in no time!
The confidence and IOIS probably comes from the increase in testosterone. Confidence is fueled by testoerone which is why women desire guys with masculine (physical and personality) traits because estrogen fuels uncertainty and insecurity. I hate to sound so binary, and it isn't the case for all women, but tend to be more emotionally stable than women thanks to testosterone. I'm not saying they're emotional wrecks but they probably go through more feelings both in the positive and negative in a single day then most guys will in a week. For guys everything is just "this is alright".
In terms of IOIs that's because androstenone, the human pheromone responsible for sexual attraction and desire is a metabolite of testosterone. The more testosterone you have the more androstenone you produce.
To fix these problems the natural way you have a few options:
vitamin d, vitamin k, ZMA (at bedtime), and 1 or 2 brazil nuts per day. You need vitamin D and K for testosterone and most people aren't getting enough because they spend most of their day inside and don't eat enough leafy greens but you can supplement these 2 easily.
ZMA is just a blend of zinc, magnesium, and b6 but it's cheaper and easier on the stomach than just zinc and it will help you sleep better which will also give you a boost in testosterone. Zinc can raise your testosterone back to baseline if you're low and selenium supresses estrogen. Estrogen is the feedback loop for testosterone, the more estrogen you have the less testosterone you will produce.
Some people over at raypeat's forum are expirmenting low doses of DHEA, we know it raises testosterone in older women but those are at larger doses. These guys are playing with doses of 2-5mg per day and are reporting good results so far, one guy took his testosterone levels to 1400 ng/dl which is at least double of the general male population under the age of 30. But if you take too much dhea then you'll convert more of it to estrogen which will of course lower your T levels. DHEA creams also convert at a rate of 40% to DHT - good if you want to build muscle since it's more anabolic than T but bad if you're predisposed to hair loss.
Eating high fat foods helps also, one blogger went from 450 to almost 700 in 3 months just by eating eggs and bacon. I'll try to find the link
edit:
found it
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/18...naturally/
Quote:Let’s do a quick review of what I shared in the introduction to this series. August of last year was a tough month for me, primarily because of a huge and grueling project we were in the midst of here on the site. I was stressed out and my sleeping, healthy eating habits, and workout regimen all suffered. At the end of the month I got my testosterone levels tested and found that my total T was 383 ng/dL and my free T was 7.2 pg/mL – close to the average for an 85-100-year-old man.
I then began a 90-day experiment to see how diet and lifestyle changes could boost that number.
The reason I started the experiment at that point is because I know a lot of guys who live my last-August lifestyle all the time, and I wanted to see what would happen to an “average” guy who turned things around. At the same time, there was no “normal” time in my life which would have been better for me to start the experiment. My stress level and diet fluctuates throughout the year anyway, so at any point, factors in my current lifestyle would have influenced the results. I wanted to begin at “ground zero.”
After 90 days, I had my testosterone tested again. My total T had gone up to 778 ng/dL and my free T had risen to 14.4 pg/mL. I had doubled my testosterone.
Back from my fishing trip.
We got about 5 1/2 hours into the drive, and my wife gets into the trunk at a rest stop. "Uh, honey, where's your bag?!"
"WHAT!?"
No bag. No memory of leaving it behind. None. The other strange thing was that, in hindsight, we realized that after I had left my bag (lying on the kitchen floor), my wife had gone back into the house to grab something - she comes back with my leatherman tool. To do so, she had to have walked past the bag (and cooler) that I left behind. She didn't see them, either.
This caused a detour to buy clothes and toiletries. At the store, I ran headlong into a very sexually attractive blonde. She stared me down, which was flattering (likely 16 years younger than me). She hovered around us, "readjusting" clothes (needlessly) on the racks. No heat, no other feelings of any kind.
We went to make our purchase, and it's another blonde. She was cute (but with a much bigger chest - which I like). I went to the restroom while my wife stayed with the cashier. When I came back, I lit on fire. I was just burning up. The cashier immediately turned bright red - flushing face to feet - and started running her fingers rapidly through her hair while glancing up at me. She couldn't stop. This all came out of nowhere. I can't really put a finger on why this reaction happened with her, but not other women I consciously found to be more sexually attractive.
The heat thing didn't happen again during the trip. Flirting from younger women, but nothing crazy or out-of-the-norm. I also couldn't listen to the sub after the first two days, because the humidity was so high my cord wouldn't work to charge my phone - and the wireless charging pad I was going to bring with was...in my bag!
Had some crazy/violent dreams - but I was also able to take control of the violent situations in all of them. Empowering, rather than waking up feeling powerless and/or fearful.
My phone started miraculously charging in the car on the way home today. So I got about 3 loops in.
I've been catching up on all the future changes for the next version, and I'm excited. Sounds great so far!
Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
(07-08-2016, 09:49 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
Now finally someone will believe me when I say I have had this happen to me.
(07-08-2016, 09:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 09:49 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
Now finally someone will believe me when I say I have had this happen to me.
Yeah, but as it started I couldn't believe it by myself, even experiencing it right that moment
(07-08-2016, 10:10 PM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 10:05 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 09:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 09:49 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
Now finally someone will believe me when I say I have had this happen to me.
Yeah, but as it started I couldn't believe it by myself, even experiencing it right that moment
How did you feel and react at the time?
Really surprised. I was just standing there, watching her and not believing what I am seeing...
8 days on DMSI ... quick notes:
- first 3 days 1 loop on earphones TS, 4th day 2 loops TS and the next days 5 - 6 loops at night US;
- general increase in IOIs from women in public spaces;
- on second day I was on a trip outside the town on the hills nearby; normally if I stay to much time in the sunlight I feel exhausted and with a little headache, this time I felt powered up like I was charged up by sun somehow;
- now when I get angry my abdominal area start to heat up .and it's feel like the energy behind the anger is transmuted in energy that power up my aura.
(07-09-2016, 01:01 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]I Know all the sluts I have been aware of, come in contact with, heard about and had personal interaction with...I never liked them,
OK, apologies in advance for the pop psychology....
Perhaps part of the issue is that you think of some women as 'sluts'. That's a harsh shaming term... what's the emotion/fear behind wanting to negatively label other people's life choices that don't harm or impact you in any way?
Are you worried about being judged by other people for your choices/desires and projecting that on to women?
Often when we don't like something in other people, it is really something we don't like in ourselves.
(07-09-2016, 01:49 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]It's a word to explain something. It's only negative if you have a negative reaction to the word.
If I sleep around I would be a ***** too.
Not hard to understand.
Agreed, not hard to understand, but you
do appear to have a negative reaction to the word, since you expressly stated that you wanted to avoid being like that. My point is; what is the fear/worry/emotion behind that?
Hi, guys! Sorry for inattentiveness but: if users of DMSI 2.1 5.5G get laid and how much girls already been in your bed since DMSI test? I' suppose that DMSI is what designed for at the first place. Or I'm mistaken something?
UPD: I'l explain my question: I'm doing some simple energy work, using breathing and attention-managment and got A LOT IOIs from girls. Reading DMSI threads I'm mostly see: more IOI, change in user's feelings and sensations BUT I don't see MUCH improvement (i.e. get laid) over AM6.0 / SM3.0. So the question is: how much the Get-Laid-Ratio (GLR) improved as compared to not using DMSI? I'm going to buy DMSI and description is awesome but what I currently see in most threads IS NOT that impressive ("wow, she looked at me as never before! pfff, quite nerdy
)), better to say - all that I had it even before using any subs.
P.S. Ok, my most GLR at AM6.0 was: 4 new girls in my bed in 9 days.
Can u relate?....
(07-08-2016, 09:49 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
was u attractive to the girl and thats why she was doing all that or was she not ur type?
(07-08-2016, 09:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2016, 09:49 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Had something interesting yesterday. Was at the train station waiting for the train. Three girls were sitting at the bench close to me, I think they were about 15. After a while I noticed one of them (who wears a skirt) starts sitting with legs spread. She changed back to normal position, so I thought it was just an coincidence. But I noticed she did it over and over with a greater spread angle. After fifteen minutes or so she sat there with complete spread legs and one foot up on the bench and having just her small handbag in front of her pussy. All her body was pointed towards me , while her friends were just sitting in a way you would expect. Later she stood up an were walking in front of me and around me. Sometimes she were looking to her friends and giggling. Then the train came.
Now finally someone will believe me when I say I have had this happen to me.
Thats all well and good shannon but we aint paying for the sub to make women do random ioi cause at the end of the day the user doesn't get laid. Will v2.2 actually make girls approach the user in a similar situation and try to bang him? not talking about if shes 15 but lets say if shes 18+!