Steven how long have you been listening to the sub ?. Its only 5 days for me so far I am not expecting anything out of the ordinary to happen. I am guessing that there will be more pronounced behaviour in 30 days. Its possibe that there are factors outside the realm of the sub which cannnot be controlled. Such as a womans mood swings when she is outside her ovulation window.
(07-07-2016, 07:17 PM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
I want to report something and I don't know how to eloquently describe it. I seem to be getting erratic results overall.
Some days it's as though 90% of the women I see I'd be interested in. Other days, none.
Some days most women I talk with seem to be overjoyed to be talking with me. Other days, I get ignored.
I wish I could say something more detailed, but that's the best I can do.
Been using DMSI regularly since kickoff. Initially, I started with just one loop but finally increased it to 5 loops. No significant difference as far as effects go between 1 or 5 loops. Yesterday I tried 8 loops. Nothing out of the ordinary externally although sometimes...I *think* something is going on but I'm not sure.
Internally, V2.1 is worth its wait in gold as far as I'm concerned. I never released how much fear, guilt, and shame was holding me back before. Of course the naturalizer is so damn smooth that if I wasn't paying attention I'd assume I was always like this lol. It definitely has impacted my procrastination for the better. Its not as bad as it was before so at least we know what should go in Overcome Procrastination 5.5G
. Of course the problem is that I'm running DMSI not E2 or a Procrastination sub so the internal effects are fine and dandy but I'd love external effects
. I do acknowledge that this is just a test version and this is what testing is all about so hopefully V2.2 and V3 will solve these issues.
Meeting with a (female) tutor today. Let's see what happens. Obviously I'm not going to try anything since I'm here to finally master a class that's been kicking my ass all semester but hey, if she throws it, I'll be happy to catch it.
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thor2014
I agree with you completely, and I understand what you're saying. Being reminded to be patient is always helpful.
My intention of offering those comments was to simply state what was happening with the hope the input would be helpful to Shannon rather than imply what I was expecting.
(07-08-2016, 06:17 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]@thor2014
I agree with you completely, and I understand what you're saying. Being reminded to be patient is always helpful.
My intention of offering those comments was to simply state what was happening with the hope the input would be helpful to Shannon rather than imply what I was expecting.
Shannon, needs to know how many loops per day you are using and how many days you've been listening. Whatever information you provide as far as usage would give him some insight to what you are describing about overall erratic results.
@
4Kingdoms
You are right, and I should have kept better records. I also want to make it clear that every thing in this post is to report all the results I can think of rather than display an expectation or impatience regarding result. As I report this, I only speak for what I've noticed.
1) I don't have an exact count as to loops per day. It's always been 5 or more per day.
2) There does not seem to be a correlation as to number of loops and quality of results that I can see at this point. More loops (7+) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. Fewer loops (5 or 6) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. In terms of 5 or more loops, the number of loops appears to be uncorrelated with better or worse results.
3) Use of this program seems to be associated with more extreme results. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women girlfanning and aroused, but also an increase in the number of days in which women ignore me. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women I find appealing, but also an increase in the number of days I see no women I find appealing. For example, I'm perhaps used to seeing women reacting to me positively at a 4 out of 10 on an excitement scale where 10 is the most excited. Now, I'm either seeing 8 or 0. There is a noticeable deviation from baseline. That's why I say an increase and more extreme. I don't know how to explain it any better.
4) The results seem to be fairly binary.
a) I tend to go through a whole day with lots of girlfanning and arousal from women, or I tend to go through a whole day mostly being ignored.
b) I tend to go through a whole day where I see many women who look appealing to me, or I tend to go through a whole day where I see no women I find appealing.
c) Results listed in a) and b) appear to be uncorrelated with and independent of each other.
(07-08-2016, 08:22 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]@4Kingdoms
You are right, and I should have kept better records. I also want to make it clear that every thing in this post is to report all the results I can think of rather than display an expectation or impatience regarding result. As I report this, I only speak for what I've noticed.
1) I don't have an exact count as to loops per day. It's always been 5 or more per day.
2) There does not seem to be a correlation as to number of loops and quality of results that I can see at this point. More loops (7+) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. Fewer loops (5 or 6) doesn't seem to be associated with better or worse results. In terms of 5 or more loops, the number of loops appears to be uncorrelated with better or worse results.
3) Use of this program seems to be associated with more extreme results. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women girlfanning and aroused, but also an increase in the number of days in which women ignore me. There has been an increase in the number of days I see women I find appealing, but also an increase in the number of days I see no women I find appealing. For example, I'm perhaps used to seeing women reacting to me positively at a 4 out of 10 on an excitement scale where 10 is the most excited. Now, I'm either seeing 8 or 0. There is a noticeable deviation from baseline. That's why I say an increase and more extreme. I don't know how to explain it any better.
4) The results seem to be fairly binary.
a) I tend to go through a whole day with lots of girlfanning and arousal from women, or I tend to go through a whole day mostly being ignored.
b) I tend to go through a whole day where I see many women who look appealing to me, or I tend to go through a whole day where I see no women I find appealing.
c) Results listed in a) and b) appear to be uncorrelated with and independent of each other.
Shannon is a genius!! I don't say that lightly and he is modest. He built computer models that simulate the best usage for DMSI v2.1.
http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/d...stibility/
From the product description:
Generally,
optimal usage will be
4 to 6 loops per day, and for
most people 5 will be best. We therefore
recommend you use this program for
5 loops per day. If you exceed 7 loops per day, please exercise EXTREME caution, as this may potentially over-charge your system, potentially make you more attractive to others than is reasonable or safe, and produce results that are undesirable for or from yourself or others.
@
4Kingdoms
Thank you for the summary. I've noticed you're very good at also finding references to other posts. Have you noticed any other people using it more than 7 times and what their results were?
(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.
Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.
This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.
As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.
Don't take the easy way out man. You just want sex more cause the sub is making you horny. But you're gonna regret it after doing it cause deep down you know you're lowering your value paying for what should be for free. Patience will reward you.
(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.
Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.
This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.
As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.
That could be Risky decision making; Especially, to Health related issues. Please, use extreme caution and weight out the 'Pro's and 'Cons' of this decision. Thanks
What is the current testing period for this version?
(07-08-2016, 07:13 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]Today I've been really considering getting a sexy female escort to come to my apartment today, I still am. I've never paid for sex in my life and have been very disgusted by this idea for many years but for some reason...now I feel very compelled to do this.
Is this my subconscious finding a short cut to the goals of the program, because how I feel now I probably will do it.
This is not ideal though obviously because the goals of the program should make it FREE sex.
As I said, my beliefs about sex and women must be changing.
Does this really accomplish the goals of the program, if you have to pay for it? And is it really the fault of the program that you're trying to? The program is aimed at making you irresistibly sexy. That never requires payment. I think you're just trying to find a way to either derail, resist or bypass something in the script that makes you uncomfortable.
Paying for it is not the solution.
(07-08-2016, 03:38 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah I know, but too late now. I was so horny nothing could of stopped me , especially as I am on a stricked no fap policy.
I didn't go all the way, just an exotic massage with a blissful ending lol, I won't do it again though. I think when it gets crazy, I will just have to fap so I don't do anything crazy.
I would have NEVER done this before, I don't know what is going on, I an changing but ....not sure I like THIS change.
I definitely prefer intamecy with a girl, I seriously don't think just sex with a girl is what I want.
What can I say, sex is not enough for me. Love connection is where it's at for me, if you have never experienced it you won't understand what I mean.
If I didn't just do what I did, I wouldn't have had the contrast to see what I really want.
I would say that "nofap" means "no orgasm" because ANY orgasm produces the same results. Mastubating to porn has a different effect, but the orgasm is always the same regardless in how it affects your body. So having someone come give you a happy ending is still the same thing. Just you're pretending that it's somehow different because you didn't do it to yourself. Masturation, sex, and happy endings are all the exact same thing; the key is moderation and avoiding pornography.
I think basically what you're experiencing is a combination of the program flooding you with sexual energy, and you resisting part of the programming of the subliminal (the part that tells you to project that energy into the world around you, and cause sex with a woman to happen thereby).
Turning off the sex drive is a cop out. It's there because you need it. You just have to learn how to deal with it properly. You seem to have some issues that aren't finished being cleared yet.
(07-08-2016, 03:58 PM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]To be honest I think you should make sub to eliminate sexual desire, it would solve alot of problems.
I'm joking, but seriously I sometimes wish I didn't have sexual desire, then I could just get on with genuine important things in life, without my sausage brain thinking for me.
That strange post orgasm moment of clarity, it's crazy how after an orgasm a man for a period of time has the mental clarity to ask himself "was this all i was getting myself crazy about?",
its in this period of time when you learn if you really like a woman or you were just mesmerized by her femenine energy and your own horniness.
Something great for next subs, is that Shannon makes it possible to not 'eliminate' sexual desire but, to harness it fully to reach the programs goals, be them sexual in nature or not.