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Quote:Actually, reading other users comments and Shannon himself. NO. One user said he hit 6 hours, and his brain was processing 8 more hours. I plan to do 2.25 hours. Which maybe just right.

Ok well you don't have to follow the instructions but that's how you'll get the best results. Shannon has said it's the same usage as 5g and that it is 6g that may be different when it is released.

He simply mentioned those calculations to show the increased effectiveness, not so that people think "oh i'll just do 2 hours even though the instructions say differently".
It was me saying this out of what I experienced. I figured out that 5 hours/day seems to work well for me, but if I do more I get an overload in long term. So the official minimum usage time is still 8 hours, but Shannon said in some journals to decrease the usage time if you overload yourself.
If i am sleepy after 8 hours, how will i cope? I do have cerebral palsy if I am sleepy when i wake up it is a day of falling left and right. Although I know how to fall with minimal damage to myself, I don't like to fall. So, I need to wake up fully rested, or fall lots. I can fall lots anyway. I am reading journals, saw some say i wake up tried. I am trying to never have that happen. I read someone got results in 2 hours a night, wanted to try that. But i should throw cation to the wind and do 8.

Mr. Anderson is right everybody is different. I know how sensitive i can be to all sorts of stuff

I thought about trying to journal, but everyone would be on my frame for 2 hours. It is nice everyone helps everyone on here, but no one ever asks the simple, 'what are your concerns' nor 'what is your history with this sort of stuff' nor 'tell me about you, let me help you, not a blanket statement.' Maybe that is the 2 hours of EHPRA V2 typing. i know I tested it for an hour a week ago Wednesday and had amazing results. I went out to eat after, they had on Fox News. I had no reaction to news for the first time in forever. so I know how powerful one hour is on my system.
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8 hours minimum recommeded
just like Ben said on this post http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7539-p...#pid111994
So if I wake up exhausted what then? My issue is falling a lot due to exhaustion. By a lot i mean once it was every other step. Yes, me falling every other step is a fact of my life sometimes no, i don't drink, never have, never will start. So I wasn't drunk nor high when i fell every other step Yet proud of walking, damn proud. Such a simple act took me 11+ years to do. My Dr. told my parents i wont ever walk. I do require a chair for distances, but around my house i risk falling because very proud of the fact i can walk.

maybe since i cannot feel comfy using it right, i can't wake up exhausted, and that is all i read in journal after journal. 'I feel exhausted when i wake' so trying to avoid that. No, in fact, need to avoid that . Maybe I should not do the subliminal ever. Is that what you are saying, '8 hours or nothing?' So I wasted $115 bucks?
(06-03-2016, 09:03 AM)procyon98 Wrote: [ -> ]So if I wake up exhausted what then? My issue is falling a lot due to exhaustion. By a lot i mean once it was every other step. Yes, me falling every other step is a fact of my life sometimes no, i don't drink, never have, never will start. So I wasn't drunk nor high when i fell every other step Yet proud of walking, damn proud. Such a simple act took me 11+ years to do. My Dr. told my parents i wont ever walk. I do require a chair for distances, but around my house i risk falling because very proud of the fact i can walk.

maybe since i cannot feel comfy using it right, i can't wake up exhausted, and that is all i read in journal after journal. 'I feel exhausted when i wake' so trying to avoid that. No, in fact, need to avoid that . Maybe I should not do the subliminal ever. Is that what you are saying, '8 hours or nothing?' So I wasted $115 bucks?

Most of the people that woke up exhausted, including myself... listened to EHPRA v2 for 12 or more hours. Just a habit from using 4G subliminals.

Shannon recommends using the 5.5 generation subliminals gradually.
Day 1 = 1 hour
Day 2 = 2 hours
Day 3 = 3 hours
Day 4 = 4 hours
Day 5 = 5 hours
Day 6 = 6 hours
Day 7 = 7 hours
Day 8 = 8 hours
Day 9 and beyond = 8 hours minimum
(06-03-2016, 10:11 AM)procyon98 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-03-2016, 09:32 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-03-2016, 09:03 AM)procyon98 Wrote: [ -> ]So if I wake up exhausted what then? My issue is falling a lot due to exhaustion. By a lot i mean once it was every other step. Yes, me falling every other step is a fact of my life sometimes no, i don't drink, never have, never will start. So I wasn't drunk nor high when i fell every other step Yet proud of walking, damn proud. Such a simple act took me 11+ years to do. My Dr. told my parents i wont ever walk. I do require a chair for distances, but around my house i risk falling because very proud of the fact i can walk.

maybe since i cannot feel comfy using it right, i can't wake up exhausted, and that is all i read in journal after journal. 'I feel exhausted when i wake' so trying to avoid that. No, in fact, need to avoid that . Maybe I should not do the subliminal ever. Is that what you are saying, '8 hours or nothing?' So I wasted $115 bucks?

Most of the people that woke up exhausted, including myself... listened to EHPRA v2 for 12 or more hours. Just a habit from using 4G subliminals.

Shannon recommends using the 5.5 generation subliminals gradually.
Day 1 = 1 hour
Day 2 = 2 hours
Day 3 = 3 hours
Day 4 = 4 hours
Day 5 = 5 hours
Day 6 = 6 hours
Day 7 = 7 hours
Day 8 = 8 hours
Day 9 and beyond = 8 hours minimum

Okay, that does reassure me that 8 hours maybe okay. Thank you, I thought the exhausted feeling was the norm after 8 hours.
Quote:If i am sleepy after 8 hours, how will i cope? I do have cerebral palsy if I am sleepy when i wake up it is a day of falling left and right. Although I know how to fall with minimal damage to myself, I don't like to fall. So, I need to wake up fully rested, or fall lots. I can fall lots anyway. I am reading journals, saw some say i wake up tried. I am trying to never have that happen. I read someone got results in 2 hours a night, wanted to try that. But i should throw cation to the wind and do 8.

Mr. Anderson is right everybody is different. I know how sensitive i can be to all sorts of stuff

I thought about trying to journal, but everyone would be on my frame for 2 hours. It is nice everyone helps everyone on here, but no one ever asks the simple, 'what are your concerns' nor 'what is your history with this sort of stuff' nor 'tell me about you, let me help you, not a blanket statement.' Maybe that is the 2 hours of EHPRA V2 typing. i know I tested it for an hour a week ago Wednesday and had amazing results. I went out to eat after, they had on Fox News. I had no reaction to news for the first time in forever. so I know how powerful one hour is on my system.

Others have discovered they have done less hours and it's still helped but in general it is recommended 8 hours.

Though your situation it's difficult to say if you are too tired and it's hard to function because of cerebral palsy. I think this might be one for Shannon to answer.

And the other thing I was going to say 4Kingdoms said it, try working up to it and see how it goes.

Good luck.
I tried 5 last night, woke up at 7:45, felt like moving at 10:45. so i know i handle 2 hours so sticking to 2.

I am also an energy healer and use modalities that need to access my subconscious to help people. Right now, in this state i am in, i can't do anything. Which is bad. My wife, guides, and other entities are saying, 'what did we learn about peer pressure?. Okay wife is saying 'Why didn't you listen you your intuition?' She wants me to tell my healing group I messed myself up, gave myself a healing crises all because I failed to listen to my intuition. In my line of work the no energy and blah feeling is called a healing crises, and should be avoided at all cost. Sign that I over worked my subconscious.

Like i said just trying to boost, not have total healing by the sub, boost my own healing work on myself.

I would journal my journey, but I may get "why 2 hours?" Unless I explained it up front,, then i can just say reread the first post. Shannon might be interested in my 2 hour a night feedback IDK.
(06-04-2016, 07:18 AM)procyon98 Wrote: [ -> ]I would journal my journey, but I may get "why 2 hours?" Unless I explained it up front,, then i can just say reread the first post. Shannon might be interested in my 2 hour a night feedback IDK.

One of Shannon's goals is to less listening time equals greater results. You getting results with only 2 hours a day means Shannon is getting closer to that goal.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5362-p...#pid108172
(04-23-2016, 08:57 AM)Pau Ko Wrote: [ -> ]My case has been very difficult and intricate and with E2 I have almost completely got passed my issues. Funny, coz I've been using E2 for 2hours a day and it's been 1,5 month on the sub right now.
Without E2 it could have taken me whole life to understand these deeply buried issues, or maybe I would have never resolved my issues....
the best thing is that not only am I reaching the point when I will be using E2 for more hours a day, but I'm also reaching a point when I'll be able to try some other programs from IML - for the first time since I found that page - gush... gonna use ASC, US, MLS awesome
but... first, let's do some more E2 wohoo :-D
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