Manifestations concerning a specific person is a problem because it takes away their free will, and that is a MAJOR no-no when it comes to the laws that govern causality manipulation. It will always get you a painful result because this must be balanced in some way, and typically in my experience, the relationship that results will blow up in your face painfully, or you'll end up losing your own free will to someone else... equally painfully.
(07-21-2011, 10:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Manifestations concerning a specific person is a problem because it takes away their free will, and that is a MAJOR no-no when it comes to the laws that govern causality manipulation. It will always get you a painful result because this must be balanced in some way, and typically in my experience, the relationship that results will blow up in your face painfully, or you'll end up losing your own free will to someone else... equally painfully.
Ok now this brings up a memory of when I was younger. This girl I ended up dating in middle school was into witchcraft. I think all those candles and rituals and whatnot is just to strengthen the believability of a manifestation. Anyway call me crazy but I think this girl did exactly what you are saying should never be done Shannon. I think I got my free will taken away and it was as if I was manifested into her life without any consent from me. Unless it's happened to anyone else, it's a very difficult thing to understand. It's like a manipulation of your emotions and it feels like they aren't your own, but they are still there. Anyway eventually I broke it off with this girl because I realized there was no interest in dating her and she was incredibly sad. It's an awful feeling when you feel as if your free will is being controlled.
It may seem far fetched and it may seem like there were other reasons for why it happened, but whenever I think back to it I always feel violated almost.
Interesting, thanks for bringing it up Shannon, I had no idea and it wasn't my intent to manipulate them.
I will work on moving my visualizations to more generic girls that I am attracted to, whatever my mind can come up with
I had a realization last night that sometimes not expressing myself because of fear can be manipulation without me meaning to.
(07-21-2011, 10:25 PM)mat422 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2011, 10:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Manifestations concerning a specific person is a problem because it takes away their free will, and that is a MAJOR no-no when it comes to the laws that govern causality manipulation. It will always get you a painful result because this must be balanced in some way, and typically in my experience, the relationship that results will blow up in your face painfully, or you'll end up losing your own free will to someone else... equally painfully.
Ok now this brings up a memory of when I was younger. This girl I ended up dating in middle school was into witchcraft. I think all those candles and rituals and whatnot is just to strengthen the believability of a manifestation. Anyway call me crazy but I think this girl did exactly what you are saying should never be done Shannon. I think I got my free will taken away and it was as if I was manifested into her life without any consent from me. Unless it's happened to anyone else, it's a very difficult thing to understand. It's like a manipulation of your emotions and it feels like they aren't your own, but they are still there. Anyway eventually I broke it off with this girl because I realized there was no interest in dating her and she was incredibly sad. It's an awful feeling when you feel as if your free will is being controlled.
It may seem far fetched and it may seem like there were other reasons for why it happened, but whenever I think back to it I always feel violated almost.
Exactly what I am talking about. When I was in high school, I had a friend who ended up with something similar. Only, he was the one doing it to someone else, and it blew up in his face big time. He spent two or three
years recovering emotionally from what happened as a result. That's why the attraction subs are never for specific people, always for "your perfect whatever".
(07-22-2011, 12:26 AM)benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting, thanks for bringing it up Shannon, I had no idea and it wasn't my intent to manipulate them.
I will work on moving my visualizations to more generic girls that I am attracted to, whatever my mind can come up with
I had a realization last night that sometimes not expressing myself because of fear can be manipulation without me meaning to.
Try to avoid visualizing the face of a woman you actually know if you can. The last time I used visualization to attract a woman, she looked
exactly like my visualization... to the point that I almost fell out of my chair when I first saw her.
So to be honest I haven't done much or gone out to see what kind of effects I get from this sub. Right now my mind is definitely elsewhere and these past few weeks have just involved me working and chilling with friends. I'll get the occasional glance from a girl when I'm out and about, but nothing major and definitely just because of alpha male and how I carry myself now. I think this subliminal opens up opportunities that you have to look out for, I'll see where it goes from here.
I think attraction subs are hit or miss really. Alpha male made me feel good about myself and when girls see that it sends out a good vibe. The way this sub works I guess just confuses me. It's not a really specific manifestation so it's harder to look out for it and it's not that internal, at least now I don't feel any different. With college coming up again it's brought thoughts about my future and naturally my focus shifted dramatically. So I'm probably not the best subject for this sub. I think manifestations are all good, but unless it's something I'm intensely focused on or desire really badly it's usually a half hearted attempt. I can't help but feel that the subs effect's are being neutralized a little by my lack of enthusiasm.
So I've got about a week left of this subliminal. So far I've noticed dreams are definitely being influenced, lots of women and sex. Outwardly, it's hard to tell the results. To begin with women are subtle with attraction and you really have to be tuned into them to understand what's going on. As aggressive as this subliminal says it will make their behavior, it's still not going to be as obvious as I'd like it to be. That's where my biggest problem lies, I wait and wait for more confirmation and during that time they get the wrong impression of me. I'm sure plenty of girls have given me subtle hints that I was hesitant to act on because I feared rejection.
Bottom line is this sub deals with attraction and attention from women. Something I am still very uncomfortable with at times and I feel like those negative beliefs are hindering my ability to act on the opportunities presented before me. I definitely don't put myself out there enough, which I rationalize in my mind as indifference, but the truth is fear is what gets in the way which is not indifference. True indifference would be acting upon my desires and not caring what the outcome is. Right now I hide and play it safe, I'm a coward and in order to protect my fragile ego I rationalize by saying I'm indifferent. I've turned indifference into a behavior, when in reality it should be a mindset.
I'm slowly improving, but a subliminal like this might be too much for me right now. I will finish it, but I think my results shouldn't be an indication of the subliminal's effectiveness. Perhaps one day I will revisit it when I've sorted out my mindset. Things are complicated now and I need to work on myself more and keep building my foundation. A solid mindset is more important than attention from women.
Quote:Try to avoid visualizing the face of a woman you actually know if you can. The last time I used visualization to attract a woman, she looked exactly like my visualization... to the point that I almost fell out of my chair when I first saw her.
Shannon,
I know this is an old post but this is interesting. How do you feel about visualizing a persons character? It would not be the specifics of their face but it would be a distinct feeling for who they are intrinsically. I'm assuming that there could be more than one person who could be of a certain character, so it might not be a targeting of one specific person, but a type based on, their energy, character, persona - something like that.
I'm not sure how one would visualize character. The point of that post is simply to prevent people from attempting to manipulate specific people into doing things or experiencing things that they normally would not.