I'm thinking about the true reason many guys want to run it.
Girls-related and sex-related fears.
I've noticed that even though there appears to be a lot of progress in other areas of guy's lives by using this program, girls and sex directly doesn't seem to have a lot of growth. I'm wondering why this is, if guys are supposedly fearful of girls and sex. If they truly have a fear of girls and sex and that's why they aren't getting the results they want, then why hasn't OF made an impact in that area of their lives?
My suggestion, there needs to be a targeted focus in there dealing with fears of those you're attracted to, opening up to them, having sex with them. For some reason, these fears seem to be able to keep progress from occurring with them even during long runs of OF 4G. I feel this added change will handle it and vastly improve the program.
I think OF with its focus on every and all fear is good as it is. I wouldn't want it to deal with specific sets of individual fears, because it would heavily bias the goal to kill every fear in your system. I like the additions of Geodude though.
As I said, the current version of the program does NOT seem to really deal with these fears, and they're a big reason why many are doing the program to begin with to be real. So, for whatever reason, these need a more aggressive approach to get rid of. I don't know why OF 1.1 doesn't seem to get rid of them, but it is what it is.
It makes sense OF should be able to deal with them if they are indeed fears as that's what the program is designed to do. I don't know why that hasn't been the case.
(11-17-2015, 08:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]As I said, the current version of the program does NOT seem to really deal with these fears, and they're a big reason why many are doing the program to begin with to be real. So, for whatever reason, these need a more aggressive approach to get rid of. I don't know why OF 1.1 doesn't seem to get rid of them, but it is what it is.
It makes sense OF should be able to deal with them if they are indeed fears as that's what the program is designed to do. I don't know why that hasn't been the case.
Then may be it is not a fear but something different. Self worth, shame, there are many more possible causes than fear.
edit: I am simply suggesting that the new OF should be as useful for any fear as OF 1.1 is now. There is no need to dye every program to serve sexual nuances.
(11-17-2015, 04:13 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]If Shannon add all the stuff then the sub becomes almost another version of EPRHA 2.0, which includes some positive programmings, too. Don't know about anxiety, but the focus should be on fear.
EPHRA 2.0 will have OF script.
And Catman those things go in the territory of Shame and Guilt. Not fear.
(11-17-2015, 07:52 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking about the true reason many guys want to run it.
Girls-related and sex-related fears.
I've noticed that even though there appears to be a lot of progress in other areas of guy's lives by using this program, girls and sex directly doesn't seem to have a lot of growth. I'm wondering why this is, if guys are supposedly fearful of girls and sex. If they truly have a fear of girls and sex and that's why they aren't getting the results they want, then why hasn't OF made an impact in that area of their lives?
My suggestion, there needs to be a targeted focus in there dealing with fears of those you're attracted to, opening up to them, having sex with them. For some reason, these fears seem to be able to keep progress from occurring with them even during long runs of OF 4G. I feel this added change will handle it and vastly improve the program.
I had a very similar idea, just regarding OGSF. Look
HERE what Shannon said about.
(11-17-2015, 12:42 PM)Hercules Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2015, 04:13 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]If Shannon add all the stuff then the sub becomes almost another version of EPRHA 2.0, which includes some positive programmings, too. Don't know about anxiety, but the focus should be on fear.
EPHRA 2.0 will have OF script.
And Catman those things go in the territory of Shame and Guilt. Not fear.
Yeah, that's why OF should stay OF and not becoming another EPRHA sub due to all the suggested additions. Who want to run a sub with more stuff inside can run EPRHA 2.0 instead of OF 5G.
(11-17-2015, 01:19 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2015, 07:52 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I'm thinking about the true reason many guys want to run it.
Girls-related and sex-related fears.
I've noticed that even though there appears to be a lot of progress in other areas of guy's lives by using this program, girls and sex directly doesn't seem to have a lot of growth. I'm wondering why this is, if guys are supposedly fearful of girls and sex. If they truly have a fear of girls and sex and that's why they aren't getting the results they want, then why hasn't OF made an impact in that area of their lives?
My suggestion, there needs to be a targeted focus in there dealing with fears of those you're attracted to, opening up to them, having sex with them. For some reason, these fears seem to be able to keep progress from occurring with them even during long runs of OF 4G. I feel this added change will handle it and vastly improve the program.
I had a very similar idea, just regarding OGSF. Look HERE what Shannon said about.
Thanks, man!
In fact, I took that post and have it in a folder of material I read through offline.
I guess I have just been concerned seeing all the breakthroughs in listener's lives while using OF. But, not seeing any real tangible effects with girls/sex. And, if girls/sex are fears of mine and others, then I'm concerned after seeing those two issues not seemingly being dealt with in OF 4G.
Obviously, OF 5G will be far more capable and powerful. I just have to hope that it can work out whatever needs to be worked out. For now though, I'm loving Stop Masturbating 4G and will be listening for at least 16 more days. I'm sure it will be an amazing program, as will EHPRA 2.0. Both seem to be seriously powerful programs.
(11-17-2015, 01:34 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I have just been concerned seeing all the breakthroughs in listener's lives while using OF. But, not seeing any real tangible effects with girls/sex. And, if girls/sex are fears of mine and others, then I'm concerned after seeing those two issues not seemingly being dealt with in OF 4G.
I was thinking the same, that's why I made the suggestion. For me it would be even better to get OGSF in 5G since guilt (and shame to some degree) are still a problem due to my (very) religious childhood. Guilt probably almost as strong as fear (I realized shortly). We must see when Shannon has time to upgrade this title.
Yeah guys, it could very well do it in 5G.
I'll be keeping detailed accounts of my run on it.
For now, Stop Masturbating 4G is doing such an amazing job. I'm going to write a journal post about it before I go to sleep tonight. Document all the changes for people to see how it's done. It's time, I haven't written an entry in awhile and I feel now I have a good amount of info to make it worthwhile.
(11-17-2015, 02:16 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (11-17-2015, 01:34 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I have just been concerned seeing all the breakthroughs in listener's lives while using OF. But, not seeing any real tangible effects with girls/sex. And, if girls/sex are fears of mine and others, then I'm concerned after seeing those two issues not seemingly being dealt with in OF 4G.
I was thinking the same, that's why I made the suggestion. For me it would be even better to get OGSF in 5G since guilt (and shame to some degree) are still a problem due to my (very) religious childhood. Guilt probably almost as strong as fear (I realized shortly). We must see when Shannon has time to upgrade this title.
Guilt and Shame Spring up from fear since fear is the root of these emotions. It's interesting that fear blocks the root chakra, Guilt the Sacral and Shame the Plexus. It's shows that fear acts on your psychological roots in your mind. I say Shannon affirm that we are safe. Since we are safe and protected, what is there to fear. Fear is because of a lack of safety in ones life or the threat you are going to loose something or not get a pleasurable response. Along with safety the sub should affirm that we have a sense of Security in the world.
Getting rid of the insecurities that we have.
Here's an Interesting article on guilt though
http://www.bakadesuyo.com/2015/11/how-to...ng-guilty/
1. Root Chakra
Fear
The right to be here
2. Sacral Chakra
Guilt
The right to feel/Create
3. Navel Chakra
Shame
The right to act
Now we can see how these emotions of GSF can slow down and stop the effects of the Subs. If you are not grounded its hard to focus your energy to create because of fear of the unknown. If you don't have the right to feel/create then those Manifesting subs won't work for you cuz you are guilty about doing those sorta things like attracting your Perfect girl. Shame totally erodes your confidence and stops you from acting by taking away your self confidence and you won't act because of that.
I have another Suggestion. How about you add a module where you face all your fears in your dreams. And you always find a resolution for them in your dreams. That would be very useful and would force us to confront them so we can see what fears we have and how we can deal with them.
There's something similar in all programs, they use your dreams to help sort through the changes, thats why alot of us report our dreams in journals.