Subliminal Talk

(09-13-2015, 01:22 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I do however have this nagging feeling that my subconscious is more of a nanny and it will be similar to having your parents choose her using their definition of perfect.

Haha, that is a funny way to look at it! ...I surly think not though

(09-13-2015, 04:56 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]Just to give you an idea of how I'm approaching this... I used to go out to nightclubs, I don't drink, don't smoke, don't do recreational drugs, and don't dance.

I love parks, now I go to them when I have free time to feed the squirrels peanuts. This is something my "perfect" lover should enjoy if we are going to hang out. Will I meet her at a park?? I don't know... I do know if she is on the same wavelengths as me she won't be in a nightclub waiting for me to walk in.

I'm sure you have specific interests or hobbies that you could get involved in. One of my friends hides his video games and comic books when he invites a girl to his place. I think he should embrace it and let her know that's his thing. Anyway, he gets the girl, she finds out he's a geek/nerd and she dumps him for hiding it from her. Now he's bummed out.

So just pretend for a moment you go to Home Depot for one of their weekend clinics to learn about basic electricity. You see her and she is everything you could have hope for and imagined, she sees you and OMG... she walks over to you because you just happen to be at the same class as her and the rest is history. How much effort did that take on your part??? You showed up!!!

I like your chain of thought. But it's my subconscious that has it all sorted out not my conscious mind. Conscious likes and dislikes don't matter too much in this way. It's best just to keep an open mind and go with the flow.

Yes that would be a nice side effect of MYPSL! Can't say I've noticed anything like that yet.
The sad part is that, in the end, he didn't manifest that person

These AYP's will affect us differently. If you are having some nudges from this sub then that's great news. I haven't had nudges as such but that may take a while for me. Your intended lover will have completely different circumstances to mine, as well as us having completely different lives. My experience may be more passive whereas yours might need to be more aggressive, ie pushes, compulsions etc.

I will certainly report any significant occurrences

Little update.
Have been running this sub for 3 weeks now and apart from the tiredness I have also noticed, on several occasions, that some places I normally go to, I have been either delayed getting to, or had to go back because I've changed my mind or forgotten something. I've also had friends suddenly taking me to different places than our usual haunts.
Last Saturday when I was out we bumped into some friends of friends who we hadn't seen for years. One guy had a nice geeky girlfriend (geekiness being one of my pet likes) and after we all sat down she kept turning round to check me out. It was obvious because her back was to me as they had sat on another table opposite us and I wasn't trying to get her attention. I couldn't see if she was actually married to the guy (ring finger) but I don't think the Sexual Lover sub discounts taken women?
The funny thing was we only ended up at this place because the place we went before, we had been waiting for a while and nobody was around to serve us so I snapped and said lets go somewhere else!
She's probably not going to be my perfect sexual lover but it's interesting witnessing these changes to my normal routines.

I had been suffering discontentment about my life for the last few days and thinking the whole AYP thing is a waste of time. I've also been pissed off at my friends who keep chattering inanely to me while I'm lost in thought checking out cute women I see out.
I feel better now and I'm positive it's resistance trying to get me to quit as it's just like how I felt at times on AM and WM.

Ok day 32

Just a heads up as to the way this sub is going. Firstly I am still tired listening to it but a lot less so where I can now get out of bed in the morning and I don't nod off while I play it during the day. I'm listening with the masked track at night through sleepphones and ultrasonic through headphones during the day. I want all of this baby going into my head. I'm also managing a consistant 12 hours a day which is enough for me.
My sexual preferences have been occupying my mind a lot recently, as in how do I like sex? Rather than go through a list of my kinks, suffice it to say I am clear in my mind how I would like this sex thing to go, ie to define perfect in this context as "she likes to receive what I like to give and vice versa".

I've also noticed my standards dropping and have started to view women as meat without caring about who they are as people. I'm not happy with that but I'm putting it down to a quirk of the sub

I've also been changing venues when I go out and am still suffering from odd delays, especially forgetting my glasses or wallet when I go out..staple things that I never forgot before and keep delaying me.
I also have this desire to go out on my own to places in the evening. This isn't a strong desire but a thought that makes sense to me, given my current circle of friends (not from AM!)

On another note I've been taken to blasting out Abba songs in my car. This is weird because I would never have admitted before that I liked them or certainly playing them in my car loudly in case i was thought of as gay. But I don't seem to give a s**t. I'm also feeling more and more desirous of a black/half cast/mixed race type female...never considered them before but I really do find them sexy

Hey Ric, good to hear from you man.

I loved the ABBA part lmao. That's everybody's jam when nobody else is around I suspect haha.

(10-01-2015, 12:03 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Ric, good to hear from you man.

I loved the ABBA part lmao. That's everybody's jam when nobody else is around I suspect haha.

Not many blokes admit to liking Abba but like you say it's everybody's jam, especially when no ones around

(10-01-2015, 11:44 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2015, 10:20 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]Ok day 32

Just a heads up as to the way this sub is going. Firstly I am still tired listening to it but a lot less so where I can now get out of bed in the morning and I don't nod off while I play it during the day. I'm listening with the masked track at night through sleepphones and ultrasonic through headphones during the day. I want all of this baby going into my head. I'm also managing a consistant 12 hours a day which is enough for me.
My sexual preferences have been occupying my mind a lot recently, as in how do I like sex? Rather than go through a list of my kinks, suffice it to say I am clear in my mind how I would like this sex thing to go, ie to define perfect in this context as "she likes to receive what I like to give and vice versa".

I've also noticed my standards dropping and have started to view women as meat without caring about who they are as people. I'm not happy with that but I'm putting it down to a quirk of the sub

I've also been changing venues when I go out and am still suffering from odd delays, especially forgetting my glasses or wallet when I go out..staple things that I never forgot before and keep delaying me.
I also have this desire to go out on my own to places in the evening. This isn't a strong desire but a thought that makes sense to me, given my current circle of friends (not from AM!)

On another note I've been taken to blasting out Abba songs in my car. This is weird because I would never have admitted before that I liked them or certainly playing them in my car loudly in case i was thought of as gay. But I don't seem to give a s**t. I'm also feeling more and more desirous of a black/half cast/mixed race type female...never considered them before but I really do find them sexy

This is a great update!

(10-01-2015, 10:20 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I've also noticed my standards dropping and have started to view women as meat without caring about who they are as people.

Not sure if my standards have dropped. I did notice that I am thinking naughty thoughts when I see a woman I'm attracted to. Before MYPSL, I admired her beauty for what it was and wondered about her personality... Now that I'm listening to MYPSL, I see the type I like and I want her!!!

(10-01-2015, 10:20 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I've also been changing venues when I go out and am still suffering from odd delays, especially forgetting my glasses or wallet when I go out..staple things that I never forgot before and keep delaying me.
I also have this desire to go out on my own to places in the evening. This isn't a strong desire but a thought that makes sense to me, given my current circle of friends (not from AM!)

Glad you mentioned this! This is the part about MYPSL I dislike the most! I feel like I'm absent minded and I'm very proud of my great memory!!!

I used to call up friends or relatives to keep me company when I go out. Lately, I've been going out alone. (about 2 weeks now)

That's very interesting because I'm feeling absent minded. I even forget my list sometimes when I go out food shopping!
I'll try the going out alone thing soon and see how that does.

It is a bit like waiting for Xmas and opening your presents and I'm really intrigued just to even see who turns up. What does my subconscious mind see as perfect for me that I possibly have never seen or thought of consciously???

Day 48

So far no sign of the ideal lover!

I have been having erotic dreams of women performing in front of me pretty much naked or actually naked. I'm not talking porn scenes but normal acting but with really few clothes on or making bodily positions you wouldn't think necessary..kinda hard to explain. The women are my favourite ones from real life and tv.

I had a huge urge to go out on my own last Saturday as my friend had phoned in sick earlier on. I kept trying to find excuses not to bother like it's dark or cold, but the problem was I was scared of being seen alone on a Saturday night. After a few made up minds then quickly unmade again, I pushed myself to go out. After the huge effort to actually get out of my car and walk in to a bar with loads of people there, I did it! All my anxiety stopped the moment I went through the door. After sitting down with my drink I felt relaxed and really cool? Got a few 1on1's from some so so women.

After about an hour I moved onto to another place before going home.
This is quite a breakthrough for me as like I said, I'm not scared to go out, I just don't like to do it alone in social situations as it can be very damaging to your credibility. When I was a lot younger me and my friends used to take the p**s out of blokes my age on their own in bars or clubs, which is why I was so anxious about it.It's a barrier that I have now smashed out the way and I'm fine with it. My mind was really pushing for me to do this so it may be the sub's influence to get me to go to more places, more often?

I've said before that I have become really forgetful since starting this sub, not only does it make me tired but I'm having to really think before I leave the house that I have everything I'm going to need.

That same weekend I was looking for something in a store but they were having problems and so i gave up waiting and went over to the nearby supermarket to look for the same item. Shortly after arriving I saw from the back what I thought was my favourite 'taken' babe from work. Everything else around me paled away and I was memorized for a few moments. It was this woman's shape, her poise and her walk, exactly. Then she turned round and it obviously wasn't her

The episode put her back in my mind again and made me frustrated with everything for a while. I kept thinking "I bet Shannon's sub couldn't top her?!?!?

Blows my mind to even think about that!!

As an aside I've given up on POF and am using another site which has a small monthly cost but the women look much better quality

I don't have a problem with criticism as long as it's constructive. Yes we are supposed to fire and forget these subs but often things happen that bring our minds back to the sub and naturally we speculate. It's good to note down noticeable changes and maybe find patterns to the subs workings.

@4Kingdoms I was going to ask where your journal had gone! Journals are important tools in learning and feedback that will help us all to improve on our experiences with subs and, more importantly, Shannon will be able to improve the programmes. I doubt his few testers are a good representation of his customer base.
It's good that we are both running this sub and reporting on it if new things happen. I just wonder which of us will be the first to stop playing it:exclamation:

Yeah I was wondering where it went, too.

And I have no issue with positive criticism too. In fact, it's a vital part of growth, other perspectives you may not be able to see or may be avoiding due to something (even BS'ing yourself at times) that others can put in front of you. You can't get that kind of insight alone. That's why I continue to post on my journal despite the run going bad. I don't want a bunch of PC yes-men "everyone is beautiful in their own way, just be yourself and you will magically find the right girl when it's time" nonsense on my journal, that isn't productive lmao. I always appreciate the words.

And Frosted's post was legit about those manifest/attract programs. Shannon has talked about it often, how nothing happens for a period, and then BOOM, it's obvious this girl is THE girl. And that you can self sabotage if you go against that and search for her and overthink things. Apparently that's how those programs work, even if I personally don't believe they can work, but I defer to Shannon saying how the process occurs. All of that is known, I don't think that was an attack at all. Frosted made a legitimate post to keep your eyes on the prize and focused right and not getting needy and searching and self sabotaging and letting the process flow naturally as directed by Shannon. Nothing wrong with that post. Unless I've missed other posts that were clear attacks but I feel that would against the vibe I get from Frosted usually, and Ben would've dealt with it if it was happening. But I don't think Frosted would do that.

It'd be a shame to have 4Kingdoms stop posting. I loved your work with the X series.

@CatMan
Thank you for the compliment on my work on the X series. It is pretty straightforward, I think people are reluctant to spend the money or don't have the money to purchase them.
X-124 is silent and makes listener's around you happy. Never saw anyone get horny including myself. People go out of their way to do things for you and give you stuff for free.
X-24 creates an emotional connection with your partner. Shannon's Test Couple got married and believed X-24 was the reason. Not silent with a warning in the beginning.
X-32 is for someone that is down to fukc! Not silent with a warning in the beginning.
In every test I ran... I flirted with and touched the woman I was trying to seduce.
If you read journals where it didn't work, the man didn't flirt with or touch the woman he was trying to seduce.

@CatMan
I will be the first to admit that I don't believe that manifest/attract programs don't work. I got UNWANTED attention from so many women from listening to Become Irresistibly Attractive To Women Sexually in ONLY 9 Days, I stopped listening to it! So manifest/attract programs must work since I got results in under 9 days with a 4th generation subliminal! You paid more money for Sex Magnet 3.0 than I did for Manifest Your Perfect Sexual Lover... yet, we were willing to find out for ourselves and took the plunge. Good luck to both of us and we don't have to believe for it to work!!!

@Ricardo
I know Shannon says that nothing is supposed to happen until "BAM" she shows up!!!
However, something is happening and I'm tired of writing journals and having people tell me that it is my imagination when it is happening to you too. (Being absent minded, being 'pushed/nudged', attention from the opposite sex, desire to go out by yourself, desire to exercise, desire to keep your home clean, dreams) You live in the UK and I live in the US, we don't exactly talk to each other. You are right, Journals are important tools for feedback. Journals helped me decide which subliminals I should purchase.
When I manifest her, I will change the wording next to my avatar. "DAY -- Manifested My Perfect Sexual Lover"

@Everybody else...
Yes, I am hoping for a certain someone and wondering how I am going to meet her. I am even hoping she has a look that is my type!
Just because we are supposed to set and forget, easier said than done!!!
Even Shannon was surprised by what was manifested by his subconscious!!! http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-68-pos...tml#pid265

I wish we had the ability to lock our journals or delete unwanted posts from our journals and yes it has been explained...
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5263-p...l#pid70763

@Anybody that desires more SEX
If you don't want to invest in any of the 'Attract/Manifest Your Perfect' subliminals because of the months of commitment required.
You can try it on your own by following the directions on this blog...
http://goodvibeblog.com/how-to-manifest-more-sex/
Remember, the 'AYP/MYP' subliminals are putting this thought process in our head to make this thinking automatic; committing 2 to 8 months of your life to listening to a subliminal is worth the commitment to get your 'Perfect Lover'.

http://jamesclear.com/new-habit
On average, it takes more than 2 months before a new behavior becomes automatic — 66 days to be exact. And how long it takes a new habit to form can vary widely depending on the behavior, the person, and the circumstances. In Lally’s study, it took anywhere from 18 days to 254 days for people to form a new habit.

In other words, if you want to set your expectations appropriately, the truth is that it will probably take you anywhere from two months to eight months to build a new behavior into your life — not 21 days.

Of course you can't just fire and forget because unless she appears suddenly in your life and starts banging you immediately, then there has got to be a build-up to it that will be noticeable, or at least circumstances that are very different to your current life set-up. These are the sorts of things I like to journal on.

I also read somewhere (from Shannon I think?) that you can encounter very similar ones before the perfect one shows up. I think he called them "Shades" or something like that. It may not be the case for everyone but it shows that the fire and forget principle is not something that's easy to do.

I only think about the sub when anything out of the ordinary or coincidental happens, which isn't that often but it makes you think, and naturally your thoughts turn to the sub as a possible reason for them.