Subliminal Talk

(05-26-2015, 05:10 AM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2015, 05:04 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not trying to insult you Shannon, but I really don't get it. So that's all there is to say I guess.

Cooldown Sarge, maybe you need some time before you make your next move.

What do you mean?

Have you started on the things I said you could do to start changing things? The tasks you can try doing for the next 30 days?

(05-26-2015, 06:10 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote: [ -> ]Have you started on the things I said you could do to start changing things? The tasks you can try doing for the next 30 days?

Yes I have.

(05-26-2015, 06:11 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2015, 06:10 AM)QuantumEnthusiast Wrote: [ -> ]Have you started on the things I said you could do to start changing things? The tasks you can try doing for the next 30 days?

Yes I have.

Awesome man, I'm glad to hear! Try and complete them as best as you can. The more effort you put in the more you'll get out of it. Wish you all the best

(05-26-2015, 05:04 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not trying to insult you Shannon, but I really don't get it. So that's all there is to say I guess.

Just take some time to read and re-read the advice you were given until you really understand it as much as you can. Then start moving to make your change.

Self analysis and introspection is very valuable. You need to come to understand your own actions and choices as they really are, instead of acting on autopilot and assuming you know what they are. This usually leads to some somewhat painful realizations about yourself, which will lead you to make some equally challenging decisions and changes, which will result in you outgrowing the negative behavior patterns. That's how it happened for me.

(05-27-2015, 09:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-26-2015, 05:04 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not trying to insult you Shannon, but I really don't get it. So that's all there is to say I guess.

Just take some time to read and re-read the advice you were given until you really understand it as much as you can. Then start moving to make your change.

Self analysis and introspection is very valuable. You need to come to understand your own actions and choices as they really are, instead of acting on autopilot and assuming you know what they are. This usually leads to some somewhat painful realizations about yourself, which will lead you to make some equally challenging decisions and changes, which will result in you outgrowing the negative behavior patterns. That's how it happened for me.

Ok, will do. I appreciate the help. In fact, I was thinking about some stuff you said in regards to some sales calls I made yesterday and thought "why not assume the best in people?"

That really helped me see that I often paint situations with a negative brush for seemingly no reason at all.

Also, if you can recognize your own ignorance and assume that your conclusions are based on ignorance, you can start creatively looking for alternative beliefs to apply to your current situation.

Exactly. Go get 'em.

Shannon - I saw your blog post. With respect to Sarge's question about bisexuality you were suggesting changing "If I am a heterosexual man" to "if I am a man" but mentioned care would be needed around gay men. If Am6 is for men attracted to women how about just saying "If I am a man who is attracted to women." or "who desires women". That way it would include straight and bisexual but not mess with people who are fully gay.

(05-27-2015, 06:40 PM)stratos Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon - I saw your blog post. With respect to Sarge's question about bisexuality you were suggesting changing "If I am a heterosexual man" to "if I am a man" but mentioned care would be needed around gay men. If Am6 is for men attracted to women how about just saying "If I am a man who is attracted to women." or "who desires women". That way it would include straight and bisexual but not mess with people who are fully gay.

Genius.

It would have to be more specific. Probably "If I am an adult male who is sexually attracted to women" would work, but it would have to pass testing. I am frequently surprised by what the subconscious does with what I think makes perfect sense from a conscious perspective. That's why I use the predictive models so much. We shall see.

i find it pretty depressing that some great guys like sarge and other guys here are still virgins after using all the major subs... i would be frustated too, i mean you see how much you are doing and investing in yourself and then you see other guys doing like nothing regarding self improvement and getting all the things you want, also some other guys loose theire virginity with am stage 2 or something like that

i enjoyed reading the posts of both shanons and sarges its like both are speaking the truth i have experienced the same thing as sarge and had a similiar discussion going on in my head... of course shanon tells you how it has you to be, and you tell him how it is in your reality ... its like both of you are right only that your prespective is less useful...

edit: i talked with my ex about pick up she said that she thinks i used it with her at the begining when i was nice the irony is that was exactly the time i was just me... and later after she showed some negative side i decided to use pick up and push and pull her it seems that women misconcept being nice to them as being manipulative and being rude or indifferent to them as being real and have real intensions, they might have false views about us men as we have about them they think just because we are male we are emotionless or rude by our nature this might be the answer you are searching for sarge ...

(05-28-2015, 12:44 PM)AfzalG Wrote: [ -> ]edit: i talked with my ex about pick up she said that she thinks i used it with her at the begining when i was nice the irony is that was exactly the time i was just me... and later after she showed some negative side i decided to use pick up and push and pull her it seems that women misconcept being nice to them as being manipulative and being rude or indifferent to them as being real and have real intensions, they might have false views about us men as we have about them they think just because we are male we are emotionless or rude by our nature this might be the answer you are searching for sarge ...

Yes, perfect timing too. I noticed this kind of thing in sales today but couldn't quite put my finger on it. This is a good description.

In my experience, women think that way because it seems pretty obvious that a weak man who wants sex will not do something that will jeopardize his chances of getting it, but a man who has options will call her out on her shit and walk if need be. I was told just tonight by one of my ex's that she left her first fiance because she did not respect him, and she did not respect him because he never called her out on her shit, but I always did, and she "respected the hell out of me for that".

She and I separated because I left her for her shit, and she still, years later, wants to marry me. And yes, I still call her out when she's acting badly. But she has become a much higher value woman because I and others called her out and expected better of her.

Women respect men who don't put up with crap, and like they misunderstand asshole vs alpha, they can also become confused with rude vs no bs.