Subliminal Talk

Stage 3 Day 24 11 hrs/day

Nothing really crazy happened this week. The FWB that I had for about 6 months made herself scarce as soon as her twin came back. It's like she was being a strong independant woman whilst her twin was gone and as soon as her twin/twin's bf came back she became co-dependent. Quite odd actually. I'm glad that I didn't invest in her more (also maybe this is why she's incommunicado)

Had to take 24 hrs out of the city yesterday. I was raised in the mountains near the NWT border for the first number of years of my life and sometimes I forget that I love nature/mountains, etc and that it rejuvenates me to be outta the city. Anyway like a good country boy I got trashed smoking a cigar that Castro would have appreciated. Went to bed at 930 and woke up in a sober sweat at 0251 and proceeded to work on my goals and direction in life. Very refining that's for sure. Still seing the same things as before. On a side note it seems like I'm attracting younger women. The women the express interest are in about the 21-25 range. Not that I really mind, but reliability is very low. I text, type and speak in a similar manner and because of this I'm often asked if people "really" say that, do that, etc. I'm not sure how to simplify my communication. Anyone?

I'm still loving WM especially for the resistance to rejection. Self Image mods, PTPA (really feel this one, actually hope that it balances out!) Int/ext to follow after stage finishes.

Experienced a concrete result of eye seductionabout 5 min ago. In one of my favorite coffee shops and I was sitting at a table facing the lineup/ register and saw a woman I would be interested in getting to know. I looked and her and thought you should come over and smiled on her second glance. She came to my table and told me tons about her and then as she was leaving I said bye.. she said aren't you going to take my number. She'll be a good friend/ drinking buddy, but after talking to her I'm not rally attracted. So I took her number... Talk to her sometime soon.

(05-19-2015, 03:21 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]Experienced a concrete result of eye seductionabout 5 min ago. In one of my favorite coffee shops and I was sitting at a table facing the lineup/ register and saw a woman I would be interested in getting to know. I looked and her and thought you should come over and smiled on her second glance. She came to my table and told me tons about her and then as she was leaving I said bye.. she said aren't you going to take my number. She'll be a good friend/ drinking buddy, but after talking to her I'm not rally attracted. So I took her number... Talk to her sometime soon.

Wow! That's a great story, brings a smile to my face. Huge grats man. Sounds like a calm, smooth approach from a natural and she seems attracted obviously. Looks like a woman magnet is being born before our very eyes!

(05-19-2015, 03:21 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]Experienced a concrete result of eye seductionabout 5 min ago. In one of my favorite coffee shops and I was sitting at a table facing the lineup/ register and saw a woman I would be interested in getting to know. I looked and her and thought you should come over and smiled on her second glance. She came to my table and told me tons about her and then as she was leaving I said bye.. she said aren't you going to take my number. She'll be a good friend/ drinking buddy, but after talking to her I'm not rally attracted. So I took her number... Talk to her sometime soon.

Nice , dude. That easy huh ,wow. In SM it feels like you have to work your butt off .

(05-20-2015, 09:44 AM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-19-2015, 03:21 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]Experienced a concrete result of eye seductionabout 5 min ago. In one of my favorite coffee shops and I was sitting at a table facing the lineup/ register and saw a woman I would be interested in getting to know. I looked and her and thought you should come over and smiled on her second glance. She came to my table and told me tons about her and then as she was leaving I said bye.. she said aren't you going to take my number. She'll be a good friend/ drinking buddy, but after talking to her I'm not rally attracted. So I took her number... Talk to her sometime soon.

Nice , dude. That easy huh ,wow. In SM it feels like you have to work your butt off .

Not all the time Womanizer. somedays it feels like you're walking around with a Faceless mask on.. Like they are attracted to you, but you're too much at the same time and so you creep them out. The most common thing though is that women's eyes go to the like they are being submissive ir that they are not worthy. It's very disconcerting actually.

I'm enjoying reading your progress! I don't know if I'll do SM or not, but you're making it sound like an adventure.

One thing- I know it's ancient history now, but since I just read the thread I'm catching up, I wanted to throw out something slightly PUA-y but that might be useful to someone; If you should find yourself with some girl who's way younger, (say your 33 / 21 gap earlier), and she does that age sh*t test, in the future, refuse to let her re-frame the interaction. Something that I've found effective is the following:

Hold your frame no matter what ( <--- this is key, the most important element... if they smell fear, you're done. You were army right? bearing!),
and when she finishes with her mild freakout / challenge, you look her straight in the eye and follow that with something like: "Yeah it's true, I normally date girls who are a little older, which is why I was surprised that you and I got along so well. Lots of young girls are way too immature to stand, let alone hang out with. But so far we've connected so well, you've seemed like you could be an exception to that rule. <pause> But, but if you want to go, go."

Then stfu and wait for her response, because it will be fun watching her brain grind trying to shift gears that fast... You can even turn and walk away first, if you're feeling it.

Remember one of the things girls most value at that age is thinking they're 'mature'. So, if she tries to recover in order to not look like an immature asshat, then you'll have passed the sh*t test and with her you'll never have to deal with this again.

And if she doesn't, who cares? She was trying to end it anyway. There's more where she came from if you're doing SM, so I hear.

Okay I'm done. Anyway, keep the journal entries coming!

(05-20-2015, 05:30 PM)Deolanga Wrote: [ -> ]I'm enjoying reading your progress! I don't know if I'll do SM or not, but you're making it sound like an adventure.

One thing- I know it's ancient history now, but since I just read the thread I'm catching up, I wanted to throw out something slightly PUA-y but that might be useful to someone; If you should find yourself with some girl who's way younger, (say your 33 / 21 gap earlier), and she does that age sh*t test, in the future, refuse to let her re-frame the interaction. Something that I've found effective is the following:

Hold your frame no matter what ( <--- this is key, the most important element... if they smell fear, you're done. You were army right? bearing!),
and when she finishes with her mild freakout / challenge, you look her straight in the eye and follow that with something like: "Yeah it's true, I normally date girls who are a little older, which is why I was surprised that you and I got along so well. Lots of young girls are way too immature to stand, let alone hang out with. But so far we've connected so well, you've seemed like you could be an exception to that rule. <pause> But, but if you want to go, go."

Then stfu and wait for her response, because it will be fun watching her brain grind trying to shift gears that fast... You can even turn and walk away first, if you're feeling it.

Remember one of the things girls most value at that age is thinking they're 'mature'. So, if she tries to recover in order to not look like an immature asshat, then you'll have passed the sh*t test and with her you'll never have to deal with this again.

And if she doesn't, who cares? She was trying to end it anyway. There's more where she came from if you're doing SM, so I hear.

Okay I'm done. Anyway, keep the journal entries coming!

Deolanga, Thanks for the input. I see that as not a really pua approach as there is a TON of legitimacy to that statement. Just so you know, I'm actually doing WM, which considering I'm pretty forward and escalate pretty intensely I seem to be having a lot of results.

(05-20-2015, 07:25 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-20-2015, 05:30 PM)Deolanga Wrote: [ -> ]...
Okay I'm done. Anyway, keep the journal entries coming!

Deolanga, Thanks for the input. I see that as not a really pua approach as there is a TON of legitimacy to that statement. Just so you know, I'm actually doing WM, which considering I'm pretty forward and escalate pretty intensely I seem to be having a lot of results.

Haha, I even typed WM the first time, and then after typing all that I 'corrected' it twice, thinking "oh yeah SM".

Oh well at least the other details seem right.

Finish Stage 3
Over this stage I really noticed the naturalizer at work. Thinking that if I wasn't more self aware I would be very disappointed about things not happening, but I have about three different friends and controls that I use to gauge my progress. I have friends that I make sure that I do not spend time with for one full month, so that I get their feedback on how my stage progression is going. Additionally I have a few friends that have amazing memories that consistently remind me of the conversations that we have had throughout my stages.

I experienced a lot of manifestation over this stage. I have made an effort at least three to five days a week to not go home at least till ten o'clock and to be out in public around people. I have also tried to make sure that I'm actively making new friends daily/weekly whether through comments/ compliments and just plain saying Hi, I wanted to meet you or some random thing that I come up with at the time. My manifestation has been seven new girls in my life, two that soured quickly. One that I'm active with and four that are developing. Not doing the int/ext because I can't remember what the difference is lol.

Stage 4, Day 4

So far this stage has been much of the same. I say what I want, automatically doing what I think is a disqualifier or "take away."

I have not had the negative side effects that others have. I dove in first day at about 18 hours and back down to 11 for the remainder. My confidence has started to peak to the point that I'm starting to get the urge to cold approach 8-9's (normally I just call them b****hes in my head and move on (read pussying out)). As of today men and women are checking me out. I am very confident in who I am and what I offer to the point of arrogance haha. The day before yesterday I had to stop from calling myself a genius. People have asked me why I am so confident in various different arenas and I have responded appropriately for each one. Job because I'm precise. Relationships because I'm a awesome bf/partner. Friendships because I put myself out for my friends but with in boundaries which they seem to appreciate that limit. I have very upright and tall posture, but lately it's been some next level ****.

I find that I'm exceptionally positive and that weirds people out. I am unashamed when check out women who are with their bf/husbands. I'm hitting the king of the world point. I felt some garbage two days ago, but with my friend feedback system that prevented me from going down that hole. It's great to have someone show you that you aren't where you think that you are. So excited to see where I end up next!!!!

I was thinking about how nuts it would be if I was on SM. WM is fruitful.. SM = literally tons of women ?. Don't know if I can handle that many women in my life. Although the neat thing about this sub is that I'm not thinking about all the other places that I would rather be, subs I'd rather do, etc. Even in this... I saw a bunch of girls with their dudes looking me as they walked around holding hands and I was like.. What if I was on sm? Would I meet them in a bathroom in a mall and make out with them there? Lol Just musing.

(05-30-2015, 02:25 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]What if I was on sm? Would I meet them in a bathroom in a mall and make out with them there? Lol Just musing.

Why not? It's something I want to do regularly.

(05-30-2015, 06:19 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-30-2015, 02:25 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]What if I was on sm? Would I meet them in a bathroom in a mall and make out with them there? Lol Just musing.

Why not? It's something I want to do regularly.

Wasn't a complaint. Just a musing haha