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(04-07-2015, 08:55 AM)gelimang Wrote: [ -> ]That's AM6 stands for then.. this discussion well interesting enough..
6x run of AM likely the best choice for those of you who didn't feel "Alpha Enough".

Well, Shannon too actually runs AM for 6 times as you know... Big Grin

wm has suggestions in it for the guys that dont feel alpha enough
Shannon ran AM V0 (pre-release) and 1-5. You guys have it good, I had not only to create each version, but go through the roughness of testing them and the pre-release version. Each release was multiple times more coverage and more powerful than the last. So it took me six runs to get to my goal, and if I had had AM5 or 6, I'd have had it in 2-3 runs. I've given you guys (almost) everything you asked for, excluding things that would have really derailed it, and every time I have, you either wanted more, or started complaining that I gave you what you want. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of you guys simply cannot be satisfied, regardless of what I do, create or invent. Although it will be interesting to test that theory once I have mastered integrating some of the 6G technology.
(04-07-2015, 12:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon ran AM V0 (pre-release) and 1-5. You guys have it good, I had not only to create each version, but go through the roughness of testing them and the pre-release version. Each release was multiple times more coverage and more powerful than the last. So it took me six runs to get to my goal, and if I had had AM5 or 6, I'd have had it in 2-3 runs. I've given you guys (almost) everything you asked for, excluding things that would have really derailed it, and every time I have, you either wanted more, or started complaining that I gave you what you want. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of you guys simply cannot be satisfied, regardless of what I do, create or invent. Although it will be interesting to test that theory once I have mastered integrating some of the 6G technology.

And that's the beauty of entrepreneurship. People will never be 100% satisfied and will always want more, but the truth is that you are the one who is the expert in the subliminal production. And consumers can't know what works best for them in the end, but I think if there's a place when people want more and there's a place when people say "it's too much", there could be a sweet spot in between.

No, I would not want to be on your end doing as much work as you do, but I don't think it's bad that there's so much feedback. Also I can imagine juggling 2 businesses can be even tougher.

I remember when I first came here, I didn't believe subliminals that you can't hear can even work. Was I surprised when I ran ASC or what, and it was quite obvious. Sadly AM6 didn't seem to work on me or at least I can't see that it has. Maybe it's the fact that the programming happens so much in the background that it's almost invisible and the lack of visible external results, which I heard AM5 had.
I hope you don't take this post as negative criticism since it's the only way I knew how to put it Smile
I had the same experience - I was really skeptical and then a few hours into ASC I was like wow, this actually works. And for x124 i was like 10 seconds into it and turned on.
(04-07-2015, 01:13 PM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-07-2015, 12:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon ran AM V0 (pre-release) and 1-5. You guys have it good, I had not only to create each version, but go through the roughness of testing them and the pre-release version. Each release was multiple times more coverage and more powerful than the last. So it took me six runs to get to my goal, and if I had had AM5 or 6, I'd have had it in 2-3 runs. I've given you guys (almost) everything you asked for, excluding things that would have really derailed it, and every time I have, you either wanted more, or started complaining that I gave you what you want. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of you guys simply cannot be satisfied, regardless of what I do, create or invent. Although it will be interesting to test that theory once I have mastered integrating some of the 6G technology.

And that's the beauty of entrepreneurship. People will never be 100% satisfied and will always want more, but the truth is that you are the one who is the expert in the subliminal production. And consumers can't know what works best for them in the end, but I think if there's a place when people want more and there's a place when people say "it's too much", there could be a sweet spot in between.

No, I would not want to be on your end doing as much work as you do, but I don't think it's bad that there's so much feedback. Also I can imagine juggling 2 businesses can be even tougher.

I remember when I first came here, I didn't believe subliminals that you can't hear can even work. Was I surprised when I ran ASC or what, and it was quite obvious. Sadly AM6 didn't seem to work on me or at least I can't see that it has. Maybe it's the fact that the programming happens so much in the background that it's almost invisible and the lack of visible external results, which I heard AM5 had.
I hope you don't take this post as negative criticism since it's the only way I knew how to put it Smile

I don't exactly have a thin skin anymore. So even if it was negative criticism, I would take it as "what can I use from this to improve the program?" instead of personally. I wan't expecting it to be invisible to nyone in its effects, for sure.
(04-08-2015, 06:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-07-2015, 01:13 PM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-07-2015, 12:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon ran AM V0 (pre-release) and 1-5. You guys have it good, I had not only to create each version, but go through the roughness of testing them and the pre-release version. Each release was multiple times more coverage and more powerful than the last. So it took me six runs to get to my goal, and if I had had AM5 or 6, I'd have had it in 2-3 runs. I've given you guys (almost) everything you asked for, excluding things that would have really derailed it, and every time I have, you either wanted more, or started complaining that I gave you what you want. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of you guys simply cannot be satisfied, regardless of what I do, create or invent. Although it will be interesting to test that theory once I have mastered integrating some of the 6G technology.

And that's the beauty of entrepreneurship. People will never be 100% satisfied and will always want more, but the truth is that you are the one who is the expert in the subliminal production. And consumers can't know what works best for them in the end, but I think if there's a place when people want more and there's a place when people say "it's too much", there could be a sweet spot in between.

No, I would not want to be on your end doing as much work as you do, but I don't think it's bad that there's so much feedback. Also I can imagine juggling 2 businesses can be even tougher.

I remember when I first came here, I didn't believe subliminals that you can't hear can even work. Was I surprised when I ran ASC or what, and it was quite obvious. Sadly AM6 didn't seem to work on me or at least I can't see that it has. Maybe it's the fact that the programming happens so much in the background that it's almost invisible and the lack of visible external results, which I heard AM5 had.
I hope you don't take this post as negative criticism since it's the only way I knew how to put it Smile

I don't exactly have a thin skin anymore. So even if it was negative criticism, I would take it as "what can I use from this to improve the program?" instead of personally. I wan't expecting it to be invisible to nyone in its effects, for sure.

And I expected nothing less even if my last sentence might state otherwise, I only offer my sincere opinion to the best of us!
(04-06-2015, 08:01 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't say to share to everyone Big Grin


I didn't said that too Smile if i care about someone like a close friend i will tell him/her and although they have seen me achieving great results like being on TV many times ,they still repeat their old habits.it's ok

(04-06-2015, 08:04 AM)GlaizenGold777 Wrote: [ -> ]@MJ1,

Yep, that's why I don't share. They don't hear us anyway. Even if our intent is 10000% trying to help. Big Grin


They are not ready yet.
(04-06-2015, 07:51 AM)MJ1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Alpha360

I tried to help many people because i felt selfish for not telling others and still it's hard to keep my mouth shut but if i tell people 99.99% of times they continue their old habits.

Most of us earned subliminals,i personally first tried to create subs for several months!i still have my 1st and 2nd Gen.not everyone appreciate what we have found.period!

This is so true.

I just tried recently to help a girl I know with a sub. She was into it, then quickly decided inventing reasons why she can't get it to work, can't download it properly...blah blah. Quick enough to whine about her problems endlessly, but ultimately take zero action to deal with them.

I told myself once again, that I won't bother to bring anyone to subs. I believe that almost always, when people whine about something but do nothing to change it, they just want attention and validation and want to play the victim. They don't actually want help to deal with the actual issue. I won't waste my time anymore. Sounds harsh, but I've wasted enough time being the nice guy to know it's pointless and merely an exercise in frustration.
You know catman, that is exactly the conclusion I've come to. I've tried talking to people, who have many personal problems, about subs and they all seem to make up excuses as to why they shouldn't or don't want to do them. Some of them very, very stupid reasons in my opinion. Its interesting that I just recently started reading the Alpha 2.0 book and the excuses he outlines that people use to justify not being happy are pretty much exactly the excuses people use when I tell them about Subs:

"Problems make you stronger.They Build character"

"Walking around happy all the time means you're not considering all the pain and suffering in the world"

"You need bad feelings to know what good feelings are. If you never feel bad, you won't appreciate it when you feel good"

The last one I listed was actually one I got told verbatim by a woman I tried to get to use subs because shes pretty much had a crappy life up until now. Apparently, it isn't time for her to feel "good feelings" yet??? Another person told me, to paraphrase, that they are just fine with being on their anti-depressants. Honestly, just like you, I've pretty much given up on telling others. It seems to be just a waste of time for the most part. People rather "earn" their ideal life by going through a lot of pain instead pressing play every night and have their actions towards that ideal life be more automatic. Confused
The truth is always in the actions. What you believe dictates your thoughts, and your thoughts dictate your choices, which result in your actions, which lead to your life circumstances.

When people suffer and don't want to, they find a way to stop. When they suffer because they do want to, the find a way to preserve their suffering.

Some of it is faulty thinking based on faulty beliefs and faulty logic. Some of it is that there is guilt associated with something, or fear, or shame, or there is a feeling of deserving to suffer for some reason. Some people simply want attention, and that's how they have learned to get it.

It was hard for me to learn to let people suffer if they want to, but now... I have better things to do. My time is too valuable to waste trying to help those who are enjoying or preferring their suffering, I could be helping someone who does want help, or bettering myself.

Astounding, but true. The majority of people on this planet prefer to suffer.
I never mention subliminals to anyone. I get enough weird reactions in the past and people tuning out just mentioning stuff like FasterEFT let alone subliminals. And I know i'd get weird reactions so I prefer to just keep it to myself.
I tell people about subliminals all the time. They love it, and they always want to know more and get a business card so they can come here. Whether or not they do, I don't know. But sooner or later you'll see someone on here who met me on a plane or something like that. I think it has a lot to do with how credible you are, but regardless of credibility there will always be people who refuse to accept even the possibility that subliminals could work. My longest time friend still to this very day thinks it's a joke. Whatever, he's not the one who's getting the benefit of the programs or the benefit of helping so many people. He lives his 9-5 job and I live a life that is getting better and better all the time. He has settled, and I am still growing and pushing for more success, all because of these programs. So do I really care what he thinks? Not while I know that I'm right. Not while I'm benefiting from them, while he stagnates. I gave up needing his validation long ago.

But I have found that 19 times out of 20, people are fascinated and want to know more, at least.
(04-11-2015, 07:39 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I tell people about subliminals all the time. They love it, and they always want to know more and get a business card so they can come here. Whether or not they do, I don't know. But sooner or later you'll see someone on here who met me on a plane or something like that. I think it has a lot to do with how credible you are, but regardless of credibility there will always be people who refuse to accept even the possibility that subliminals could work. My longest time friend still to this very day thinks it's a joke. Whatever, he's not the one who's getting the benefit of the programs or the benefit of helping so many people. He lives his 9-5 job and I live a life that is getting better and better all the time. He has settled, and I am still growing and pushing for more success, all because of these programs. So do I really care what he thinks? Not while I know that I'm right. Not while I'm benefiting from them, while he stagnates. I gave up needing his validation long ago.

But I have found that 19 times out of 20, people are fascinated and want to know more, at least.

Still, he must be one hell of a friend with some great qualities, if he is still your friend in spite of not believing subliminals do anything....

Edit: And having a 9-5 job
Makes me think how fortunate I am to have found this site. I would probably still be "the other guy" who whines how crappy their life is and takes no action. If Shannon didn't decide to make all these subs, I think I'd be pretty screwed Big Grin
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