Subliminal Talk

(03-14-2011, 04:28 AM)Patti Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 02:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, guys... that makes for 13 pages of typed base script. I have included most of what's here, leaving out only a few things where they were already covered, or they did not fit or mesh with something more important in the script.

It's going to be vastly different than anything else, and the focus on sex is undeniable. This script is so big and so intricate that it's going to take me a while to weave it properly.

I'm curious about something (cause that would be new lol). With all the reading I've done about the subconscious, it seems to be very simplistic. Why can't scripts be made to just say for instance, I am a sex magnet, over and over? Why is it important to be so wordy, scripting so many differant statements based on the same thing?

Good question, Patti. The answer is that what you have read - according to my research - appears to be at least partially in error.

The simplicity of the subconscious mind is that it is literal. Not that it cannot handle complexities. So where trying to simplify the script would make it much more rapid on that one statement (and I do use very short scripts sometimes), the question arises: what is a sex magnet? The conscious may know what it wants a sex magnet to be, but does the subconscious? If it doesn't match the understanding of the conscious mind, you will not be happy with the results.

Here's an example. The earliest "sex magnet" type program was a one statement program. I used it on myself as an experiment, to prove or disprove a theory of mine. The statement in the program said this:

I now manifest into my life my perfect lover.

Did it work? Yes. Did it work the way I wanted it to? No. The result was that I met my perfect lover, and had years of incredible sex with her... but I also fell in love with her, and she with me. This was a major problem because while I managed to get her to understand that drugs 'r bad, m'kay?, I couldn't get through to her the value of honesty, faithfulness and sobriety. She also had a serious problem with spending more than she had, and she was always trying to subtly dominate, control and/or manipulate me - which I naturally did not allow her to do.

The good things about her were equaled or outweighed by the bad things, and I could not, for the life of me, get her to change (surprise surprise, eh?). In the end it was a choice between great sex and being on a leash and in a relationship that would be extremely unhealthy for me, or walking away. I walked away.

Had I been more specific in the program - i.e. a longer script - I'd have gotten what I wanted, because I would have asked for it.

Just as is true for manifestation, energy flows to the easiest expression. Which means you will almost never get what you wanted when you ask for something in terms that are too simple. You must specify exactly what you want to get exactly what you want.

Fortunately, the subconscious can handle this quite well. In fact I have found it capable of handling such complex statements that the grammar began to break down. Once the grammar breaks down, you know you have gotten complicated.

So, sure, simple is easier. Simple is faster too. But simple is not as specific. And specificity is extremely important for describing exactly what you want and how to go about achieving it the right way.

I was wondering about this a bit too... My only thought was that the conscious mind can use imagination so if you were to use that as an affirmation you could visualize every other belief that goes along with it. Though, subconsciously, it just either accepts/rejects everything that is thrown at it word-for-word. That's hard to explain...

Ryan

(03-14-2011, 12:41 PM)Ryan Wrote: [ -> ]I was wondering about this a bit too... My only thought was that the conscious mind can use imagination so if you were to use that as an affirmation you could visualize every other belief that goes along with it. Though, subconsciously, it just either accepts/rejects everything that is thrown at it word-for-word. That's hard to explain...

Ryan

The imagination may actually be a part of the subconscious mind. It's possible to control it with the conscious mind, but it is a way of directly communicating with the subconscious at the same time... so it may be some sort of consciously accessible part of the subconscious. But when you daydream, you usually aren't consciously controlling the imagery, so what is? The subconscious, of course.

The acceptance or rejection isn't as light-switch simple as you'd seem to believe it is, though. There is nothing simple about the mind.

(03-14-2011, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 04:28 AM)Patti Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 02:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, guys... that makes for 13 pages of typed base script. I have included most of what's here, leaving out only a few things where they were already covered, or they did not fit or mesh with something more important in the script.

It's going to be vastly different than anything else, and the focus on sex is undeniable. This script is so big and so intricate that it's going to take me a while to weave it properly.

I'm curious about something (cause that would be new lol). With all the reading I've done about the subconscious, it seems to be very simplistic. Why can't scripts be made to just say for instance, I am a sex magnet, over and over? Why is it important to be so wordy, scripting so many differant statements based on the same thing?

Good question, Patti. The answer is that what you have read - according to my research - appears to be at least partially in error.

The simplicity of the subconscious mind is that it is literal. Not that it cannot handle complexities. So where trying to simplify the script would make it much more rapid on that one statement (and I do use very short scripts sometimes), the question arises: what is a sex magnet? The conscious may know what it wants a sex magnet to be, but does the subconscious? If it doesn't match the understanding of the conscious mind, you will not be happy with the results.

Here's an example. The earliest "sex magnet" type program was a one statement program. I used it on myself as an experiment, to prove or disprove a theory of mine. The statement in the program said this:

I now manifest into my life my perfect lover.

Did it work? Yes. Did it work the way I wanted it to? No. The result was that I met my perfect lover, and had years of incredible sex with her... but I also fell in love with her, and she with me. This was a major problem because while I managed to get her to understand that drugs 'r bad, m'kay?, I couldn't get through to her the value of honesty, faithfulness and sobriety. She also had a serious problem with spending more than she had, and she was always trying to subtly dominate, control and/or manipulate me - which I naturally did not allow her to do.

The good things about her were equaled or outweighed by the bad things, and I could not, for the life of me, get her to change (surprise surprise, eh?). In the end it was a choice between great sex and being on a leash and in a relationship that would be extremely unhealthy for me, or walking away. I walked away.

Had I been more specific in the program - i.e. a longer script - I'd have gotten what I wanted, because I would have asked for it.

Just as is true for manifestation, energy flows to the easiest expression. Which means you will almost never get what you wanted when you ask for something in terms that are too simple. You must specify exactly what you want to get exactly what you want.

Fortunately, the subconscious can handle this quite well. In fact I have found it capable of handling such complex statements that the grammar began to break down. Once the grammar breaks down, you know you have gotten complicated.

So, sure, simple is easier. Simple is faster too. But simple is not as specific. And specificity is extremely important for describing exactly what you want and how to go about achieving it the right way.

Thanks, I now have a much better understanding of how this whole thing works!

On a more personal note, I'm assuming this story of the gf isn't the same person as the other story about your ex. Do you notice a pattern of types of women you choose for yourself? Cause I do! No response needed...just a thought.

(03-15-2011, 06:10 AM)Patti Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 04:28 AM)Patti Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2011, 02:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, guys... that makes for 13 pages of typed base script. I have included most of what's here, leaving out only a few things where they were already covered, or they did not fit or mesh with something more important in the script.

It's going to be vastly different than anything else, and the focus on sex is undeniable. This script is so big and so intricate that it's going to take me a while to weave it properly.

I'm curious about something (cause that would be new lol). With all the reading I've done about the subconscious, it seems to be very simplistic. Why can't scripts be made to just say for instance, I am a sex magnet, over and over? Why is it important to be so wordy, scripting so many differant statements based on the same thing?

Good question, Patti. The answer is that what you have read - according to my research - appears to be at least partially in error.

The simplicity of the subconscious mind is that it is literal. Not that it cannot handle complexities. So where trying to simplify the script would make it much more rapid on that one statement (and I do use very short scripts sometimes), the question arises: what is a sex magnet? The conscious may know what it wants a sex magnet to be, but does the subconscious? If it doesn't match the understanding of the conscious mind, you will not be happy with the results.

Here's an example. The earliest "sex magnet" type program was a one statement program. I used it on myself as an experiment, to prove or disprove a theory of mine. The statement in the program said this:

I now manifest into my life my perfect lover.

Did it work? Yes. Did it work the way I wanted it to? No. The result was that I met my perfect lover, and had years of incredible sex with her... but I also fell in love with her, and she with me. This was a major problem because while I managed to get her to understand that drugs 'r bad, m'kay?, I couldn't get through to her the value of honesty, faithfulness and sobriety. She also had a serious problem with spending more than she had, and she was always trying to subtly dominate, control and/or manipulate me - which I naturally did not allow her to do.

The good things about her were equaled or outweighed by the bad things, and I could not, for the life of me, get her to change (surprise surprise, eh?). In the end it was a choice between great sex and being on a leash and in a relationship that would be extremely unhealthy for me, or walking away. I walked away.

Had I been more specific in the program - i.e. a longer script - I'd have gotten what I wanted, because I would have asked for it.

Just as is true for manifestation, energy flows to the easiest expression. Which means you will almost never get what you wanted when you ask for something in terms that are too simple. You must specify exactly what you want to get exactly what you want.

Fortunately, the subconscious can handle this quite well. In fact I have found it capable of handling such complex statements that the grammar began to break down. Once the grammar breaks down, you know you have gotten complicated.

So, sure, simple is easier. Simple is faster too. But simple is not as specific. And specificity is extremely important for describing exactly what you want and how to go about achieving it the right way.

Thanks, I now have a much better understanding of how this whole thing works!

On a more personal note, I'm assuming this story of the gf isn't the same person as the other story about your ex. Do you notice a pattern of types of women you choose for yourself? Cause I do! No response needed...just a thought.

I know that I used to choose very unhealthy women for myself. I have only had three serious relationships in the last 15 years though. The pattern is 3 years with a woman, discover she's cheating, lying and/or otherwise unhealthy for me, and then spend 2 years alone. But I have figured out what I was supposed to learn, and it has been learned. That's actually where the alpha male set came from. I'm done with that cycle. Don't need to be with a woman anymore. Don't accept that kind of treatment anymore.

Which is a good part of why I am still single at this point. I'm healing, still, but the fact is, I'm not willing to deal with that sort of thing anymore, and my standards now prevent me from being with a woman just because I might find her attractive, or be lonely, or whatever. I have had plenty of opportunities to have "the next girlfriend", and I have turned them all down because I saw a mile away that it was the same old shoot, if you'll pardon the expression. That's a big part of the reason I want to get out of this area, also. I don't resonate with the general level of awareness in this area very well.

But, yes, both stories were about the same woman, if I recall which one you're talking about.

The more evolved you become the harder it becomes to keep authentic company

After completing Sex Magnet, will we make Casanova look like a dorky, little guy stumbling over every word talking to the average girl?

haha, lets hop

I wanted to make my subconscious CD, whether you can tell me the affirmation 10-15

There are 30 pages of suggestions for each stage of SM 2.0. That's a lot more than 15. My policy is that nobody but me sees the scripts for my six stage programs.

And making your own isn't a very good idea either. At best, you won't have one anywhere as effective as what I offer (because it will neither be as comprehensive, or have the metascript I use), and at worst, you'll make mistakes that makes it quite possibly dangerous to use. Trust me, I have first hand experience with that from back in 2005 when I was just getting started, and I didn't balance out my self confidence program properly. Turned me into a total thoughtless, selfish a-hole for six months. I lost a girlfriend and almost lost communication with my mother too.

If you want SM, buy a copy. There is nothing else like it, I promise you.