Hello everyone.
Overcoming pornographic addiction is my second sub after OED.
I used OED for 33 days and its worked well.
Pornographic addiction was something I always thought I could overcome ever since I first started using porn. Its always the case ' from tomorrow I will never ever ever do it' but then before you knew it, I was already searching for something new and different. 10 years I wasted my life on it.
Apart from a wonderful career, everything else around me is a mess.
The guilt, shame, insecurity, not having the courage to look into a girl's eyes while talking, (lately Ive been better) so many wonderful chances missed because I always knew that I can go back to porn. I don't want to go too much into details.
but I've realized, accepted the problem, now its time to solve it. I tried many times, I could do without it for a week, but then the urge comes back.
For many, programmes like AM6 or ASC or SM is life changing, but for me its Overcoming Pornographic addiction. I will be taking full control of myself from now on. No more excuses. I am confident it will work.
I am making this tread so that people who have this problem can refer and mainly, Shannon can keep a track on my progress/problems so that he might be able to improve it for others in the future.
My actual plan was to use it alongside Laser Like focus and concentration, but Its not my priority at the moment, so I am using it alongside Pefect Perspective and Proportions.
Any tips or helpful comments are welcome.
Thank you.
Day2:
I had some porn dreams. some funny porn dreams last night. It was a mess, I can remember every detail but I just knew that some pornstars appeared.. lol.
Little urges were there, its summer here and its usually high!
but today despite the heat the urges were something which I could just push away or just let it pass, as if I just turn the page in my touch screen devices. But even without this sub I have done it in the past. What I am trying to do now is to convince why watching porn is bad. I know that some say a moderation is good, but thats what I thought every time I went back for a peep and I got hooked on it again. Because I started searching like a hungry maniac, like as if I had been starved for so many days and when the food is served I cant have enough of it and I don't know if I will get another shot tomorrow..So for some, its good, but for me its bad.. I don't mean to say the whole pornography thing is bad...no...I meant, I must convince myself why its bad for me.
I found some good articles on TED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRJ_QfP2mhU
I will update weekly.
I hope my journal will be helpful.
Thank you.
(08-11-2014, 09:57 AM)woodman Wrote: [ -> ]Hello everyone.
Overcoming pornographic addiction is my second sub after OED.
I used OED for 33 days and its worked well.
Pornographic addiction was something I always thought I could overcome ever since I first started using porn. Its always the case ' from tomorrow I will never ever ever do it' but then before you knew it, I was already searching for something new and different. 10 years I wasted my life on it.
Apart from a wonderful career, everything else around me is a mess.
The guilt, shame, insecurity, not having the courage to look into a girl's eyes while talking, (lately Ive been better) so many wonderful chances missed because I always knew that I can go back to porn. I don't want to go too much into details.
but I've realized, accepted the problem, now its time to solve it. I tried many times, I could do without it for a week, but then the urge comes back.
For many, programmes like AM6 or ASC or SM is life changing, but for me its Overcoming Pornographic addiction. I will be taking full control of myself from now on. No more excuses. I am confident it will work.
I am making this tread so that people who have this problem can refer and mainly, Shannon can keep a track on my progress/problems so that he might be able to improve it for others in the future.
My actual plan was to use it alongside Laser Like focus and concentration, but Its not my priority at the moment, so I am using it alongside Pefect Perspective and Proportions.
Any tips or helpful comments are welcome.
Thank you.
Porn hater, eh? lol. To each their own. Anyhow, what's with the rainbow for your thread? You bi or something?
Porn has caused me more issues than not, but I can't seem to permanently give it up. I used this program for about a month on AM 5.0 and it really sped up the process.
Now it takes several months without porn to get to the point I start getting horny again and having more wet dreams, the 'reboot' they talk about. But it seems that I get to that point and do it again. Though it's much improved from before, it would be valuable for me to use this by itself for 90 days.
When I used it I was having wet dreams every night, getting my sex drive back, sex was MUCH better and I actually really appreciated her body where with porn it was like "eh it's okay" and I actually found that life seemed better and more interesting without that dopamine drain.
So good luck with it. It makes a difference. I considered using this for a few months before going to AM6 but the draw to that is too strong for me. If I used it fully I believe I could give up porn more permanently.
-Ben
(08-11-2014, 03:52 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (08-11-2014, 09:57 AM)woodman Wrote: [ -> ]Hello everyone.
Overcoming pornographic addiction is my second sub after OED.
I used OED for 33 days and its worked well.
Pornographic addiction was something I always thought I could overcome ever since I first started using porn. Its always the case ' from tomorrow I will never ever ever do it' but then before you knew it, I was already searching for something new and different. 10 years I wasted my life on it.
Apart from a wonderful career, everything else around me is a mess.
The guilt, shame, insecurity, not having the courage to look into a girl's eyes while talking, (lately Ive been better) so many wonderful chances missed because I always knew that I can go back to porn. I don't want to go too much into details.
but I've realized, accepted the problem, now its time to solve it. I tried many times, I could do without it for a week, but then the urge comes back.
For many, programmes like AM6 or ASC or SM is life changing, but for me its Overcoming Pornographic addiction. I will be taking full control of myself from now on. No more excuses. I am confident it will work.
I am making this tread so that people who have this problem can refer and mainly, Shannon can keep a track on my progress/problems so that he might be able to improve it for others in the future.
My actual plan was to use it alongside Laser Like focus and concentration, but Its not my priority at the moment, so I am using it alongside Pefect Perspective and Proportions.
Any tips or helpful comments are welcome.
Thank you.
Porn hater, eh? lol. To each their own. Anyhow, what's with the rainbow for your thread? You bi or something?
rainbow was a mistake...stupid touch screen!
(08-11-2014, 06:28 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Porn has caused me more issues than not, but I can't seem to permanently give it up. I used this program for about a month on AM 5.0 and it really sped up the process.
Now it takes several months without porn to get to the point I start getting horny again and having more wet dreams, the 'reboot' they talk about. But it seems that I get to that point and do it again. Though it's much improved from before, it would be valuable for me to use this by itself for 90 days.
When I used it I was having wet dreams every night, getting my sex drive back, sex was MUCH better and I actually really appreciated her body where with porn it was like "eh it's okay" and I actually found that life seemed better and more interesting without that dopamine drain.
So good luck with it. It makes a difference. I considered using this for a few months before going to AM6 but the draw to that is too strong for me. If I used it fully I believe I could give up porn more permanently.
-Ben
its true that once you are hooked to porn, you expect the girls in real life look and play like them...
I just want to give up completely, its day 2 and it seems to be going so well....but yes....sometimes its tempting...you know' one last time please! ' haha
(08-11-2014, 11:42 PM)woodman Wrote: [ -> ]rainbow was a mistake...stupid touch screen!
Meh, it's all good. Personally, I'm kind of annoyed that the "gays" have "claimed" the rainbow. One of my favorite weapon skins on gears of war 3 is the rainbow for the shotgun, simply because it looks cool. I told my cousin that and he's like "Yeah, they'll assume you're gay" lol, well good for them.
(08-12-2014, 03:31 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (08-11-2014, 11:42 PM)woodman Wrote: [ -> ]rainbow was a mistake...stupid touch screen!
Meh, it's all good. Personally, I'm kind of annoyed that the "gays" have "claimed" the rainbow. One of my favorite weapon skins on gears of war 3 is the rainbow for the shotgun, simply because it looks cool. I told my cousin that and he's like "Yeah, they'll assume you're gay" lol, well good for them.
they have claimed even pink!
... i mean...even rose shirts or dark purple...
i don't know if its they who claimed it or its the society thats assuming it!
who cares..
btw..I am keeping a track on your SM progress...
(08-12-2014, 11:43 AM)woodman Wrote: [ -> ]they have claimed even pink! ... i mean...even rose shirts or dark purple...
i don't know if its they who claimed it or its the society thats assuming it!
who cares..
btw..I am keeping a track on your SM progress...
Yeah I think everyone is lol. I feel like the center of some mass-forum expectation. >>
But yeah, it's just another form of ego-stuff so people can feel like they belong to something by NOT belonging to everything/everyone else. I've noticed that I do this a LOT, very quick to point out what separates me from others. Not sure why. Anyhow, good luck with your subs!
DAY:8
Yesterday, I was tempted to go back to porn. The harder I tried to resist, the temptation grew bigger...
but then that was yesterday.
during sleep (listening to ultrasonic) the dreams were coming and going, I don't remember every detail but they were vivid, strange and many of them didn't make any sense.
Two days back the dreams were about pornstars... its not like I was doing anything with them, its just that they were there.
I am not saying I am showing signs of changing or overcoming or resistance but its just a different experience for me. While I was listening to ASC (just 3-4 days) the dreams were something like me naked walking around and not being ashamed to be naked in front of people I would normally be, the dreams this time were a bit different.
Anyway, I am looking forward to complete this course along with Perfect perspective and get back to ASC 5g and complete that.
day 14
Dreams are still there...strange ones.
Almost for a week I was able to fend of porn but today I surrendered again! Its ok, its been just two weeks. I am sure I will get my results.
I find that it's easy to ignore porn when I keep myself sufficiently busy and that means work and socializing. It doesn't hurt to have one or more girlfriends or lovers, also. On rare occasions, I'll find myself looking at porn and then I stop and realize I am wasting my time (BIG no-no with BAMM 2.0) and it's back to work. But it may be a few hours of mindlessly indulging the lizard brain before I realize that. Happens a few times a year for me, maybe.
I have had girlfriends and lovers who looked like these girls, and worked with and befriended models and strippers who did also. Knowing them, and the way their personalities are different because of how they look and how they are subsequently treated actually is a huge help in killing porn. Not just because you have to humanize them, but because you start seeing their failings and normality instead of the fantasy of perfect love and sex goddess that porn tends to delude people into creating in their minds.
The truth is, sex is best with a more compatible woman, regardless of what she looks like. I've had some incredible sex with some incredible women, and some incredibly bad sex with them too. I've also had cases where endlessly awesome sex came from women I would not normally have looked twice at, had not unusual circumstances steered me off course and into noticing them in some unusual way first.
Looks are nice, but what really matters is how you connect in a physical, emotional, mental, maturity, interest, sexual and energy way. Looks alone can give you horribly bad sex, just as easily as amazingly good.
(08-23-2014, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I find that it's easy to ignore porn when I keep myself sufficiently busy and that means work and socializing. It doesn't hurt to have one or more girlfriends or lovers, also. On rare occasions, I'll find myself looking at porn and then I stop and realize I am wasting my time (BIG no-no with BAMM 2.0) and it's back to work. But it may be a few hours of mindlessly indulging the lizard brain before I realize that. Happens a few times a year for me, maybe.
I have had girlfriends and lovers who looked like these girls, and worked with and befriended models and strippers who did also. Knowing them, and the way their personalities are different because of how they look and how they are subsequently treated actually is a huge help in killing porn. Not just because you have to humanize them, but because you start seeing their failings and normality instead of the fantasy of perfect love and sex goddess that porn tends to delude people into creating in their minds.
The truth is, sex is best with a more compatible woman, regardless of what she looks like. I've had some incredible sex with some incredible women, and some incredibly bad sex with them too. I've also had cases where endlessly awesome sex came from women I would not normally have looked twice at, had not unusual circumstances steered me off course and into noticing them in some unusual way first.
Looks are nice, but what really matters is how you connect in a physical, emotional, mental, maturity, interest, sexual and energy way. Looks alone can give you horribly bad sex, just as easily as amazingly good.
Thanks for the advice Shannon.
I agree with everything you say, no doubts.
I realized it few weeks back, its when I am not occupied I am tempted back. its almost like I am programmed that way for a long time. Its not just about sex anymore..its become a habit...today i didn't have even one bit of a an urge. I didn't even put in an effort to resist.
I am working on girlfriend issues...ive had, its been on-off. As you may know, the ED I had been suffering for the past 2 years made be very insecure and I didn't have any confidence..Then the thought that I won't be able to perform because of my problems put me off... You may remember that I used OED5g and I am cured now, so now I am back into game. I only craved for porn when I am near my PC and for the past few days I had been surrounded by some attractive girls, but its just that I got friend zoned long time back,Big Grin but some of them are single now.......anyway, I will solve my issues step by step,
I am kinda tempted to stop using OPA and use ASC 5g, because I noticed that when I was used it for just 3 days I had urges to just hit on random girls, there were urges inside me saying,' go ask that chick something' I talked to people in my office I normally wouldn't, girls (friends) didn't let me go back home from the bar. they would say things like," c'mon what are you going to do tomorrow?"..almost got laid but it was before I used OED5g...and failure would have made it very bad for me because the word would have spread like wild fire because we had a lot of common friends..One chick even started calling me Honey on more than two occassions ...and when I did have urges to look at porn, I would just pass it off....I even exercised more than I would normally do. Career side too saw its upside, just with those three days I had been able to gain so much momentum it continued showing benefits for more than a month.
ASC is just that awesome for me.
I am just pondering if I should stop OPA for now, and use ASC for 32 days and then use OPA again with BIABW.
Just asking your advice, I am open to suggestions, after all, this is why I am sharing my experience here. Smile
I had a rainbow in my thread and am not bi...I didn't put it there either lol
Woodman
Your results sound awesome, adding the ASC really seems to have brought out some extra benefits of you OPA journey
I have finally and unequivocally made up my mind on porn
1. It is truly a pleasure in the moment, that seems/feels inspiration but it is also obviously a HUGE distraction from productivity and pain that needs to be dealt with
2. 2 or more days on porn in a row RUINS my ability to relate to woman, especially new woman, and really fucks up my sexual escalation flow
3. Porn creates emotional pain in me, and aggravates jealousy...it slowly replaces turn on with woman...to only be turned on by other guys with woman...and or competing with other men over the same woman.
4. Every friend I've ever talked to about this who quit porn for two weeks ends up sleeping with one or more new girls even if they haven't had sex in months if not years.
5. Again I like porn, but its just not worth it for my life.As long as the pleasure it gives is greater then the pain of not having real woman in your life-the addiction is easy to continue...
6. For me after quitting the next 2-4 days will feel off and like shit-because it actually is a chemical addiction and the body needs to recover.
7. I always convince myself there is an upside to it.....and honestly there can be...especially if it moves one from apathy to desire.... and come back to it. every few months for a little bit before realizing how not worth it, it is for my life. Its understanding that ends it for me..not thinking its the right thing to do.