I am whole heartedly in support of removing the filter: "the man will reject women and their advances if the woman is only seeking to use the man for sex." Curious though as to why this made it in. Isn't this one of the reasons for SM? If a supermodel hot woman wants to use a male SM user for sex, why is this a problem? However Shannon probably realized this.
I do think the following filter should be deleted also: "Causes women you attract to want to give more sexual pleasure than they get, so it’s not just about them using you for sex." I get a lot of pleasure from giving a woman pleasure and especially if I am the cause.
With regards to the following description of SM2.0, Shannon, is the program supposed to make the user automatically reject such women, or is it supposed to allow us to detect such women yet allow us the choice whether to continue with the pursuit or not? "Those who are trying to trick you, trap you, control you, use you or manipulate you with sex will find it’s difficult to do if you won’t play their game." I am all for choice rather than automatic rejection otherwise it feels a bit paternalistic. Such as a girl coming to the door and the father yelling at his son, don't let that lying and manipulative sob come into this house even if you like her. Or, maybe I am misunderstanding how it is being used in the program which is very likely since I don't know the actual wording. On the other hand, I do get the std and pregnancy filter.
Again, don't get me wrong. Love the work Shannon. Great products. One other thing, I am hoping that you will allow those of us who gave a decent shot to SM2.0 but did not get the ultimate result to have a discount on SM3.0, in lieu of a refund. I wouldn't ask for a refund nonetheless but a discount would be nice. I was thinking of doing another rerun of SM2.0 but in light of its filter and the new SM3.0, I will likely scrap that.
I like what I read about SM3.0. All I ask is keep the shackles to a minimum. And get second and third opinions on the filters and it's wording and purpose in lieu of us seeing the actual wording. Keep up the good work Shannon. :-)
Was looking at Shannon's journal on SM3, looks like it's going to be a good one with some significant improvements and advancements.
Shannon wrote: "Removed the filter aimed at preventing a man from having sex with a taken woman while using Sex Magnet. That's up to you what you want to do now."
Thank you for that. This actually explains several situations. One situation is with a woman I've known for years and she had just broken up. I usually view a recent breakup as not really a breakup. I ended up back at her place but it just felt like there was this invisible wall between us and I couldn't push past it. It literally felt like a wall and at the time I couldn't understand it. The above explains it.
I would say borrow some stuff from woman magnet. There is a lot of good stuff in there. :-)
I wonder if having deep gratitude and appreciate embedded in the program would aid in the overall results Sex Magnet.
Shannon has got me pumped on using SM 3 sounds like it's going to blow the previous version out of the water. I would say sex magnet has included a lot of good stuff but the main emphasis should be on " sex ". Meaning that it's the person who is using the programs responsibility to take necessary protection and use their own logic to see what opportunity is right. But yea getting laid anytime and any place is along the lines of the objective that is supposed to be achieved here.
Maybe also making a persons body sexually fit for the abundance of sex they will be receiving should be added to.
Thanks
Fonzy
Whatever it might be, SM 3.0 will be amazing. Better check up my pocket
Edo
(08-09-2013, 03:44 AM)Edo Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever it might be, SM 3.0 will be amazing. Better check up my pocket
Edo
I hope there will be a female version to this sub.. No fair that the dudes get all the fun..
(08-09-2013, 04:33 AM)Mz. Gem Wrote: [ -> ]I hope there will be a female version to this sub.. No fair that the dudes get all the fun..
Vote for that one! Especially if the SM for women include
- Adjustment in physique to get the best of sex
- Erotic sound
- More sensitive, etc. (Don't know anymore LOL)
Edo
I see this is going to be a popular one, which does not surprise me.
I've been working on the script all day, while making backups and restoring things and adjusting my build system as necessary, so I am currently too tired to individually answer all of you. But I'll say this.
Originally the "don't let her use you for sex" filter was in place as an extension of the theme of Alpha Male. Alphas don't allow themselves to be used, because it is a state of being out of control of the situation. It's also not typically good for the emotions, self respect or self esteem.
I removed it (or thought I had removed it all) in Version 2.0 because I concluded that after AM, you are all big boys and you can do what you like.
SM 2.0 has such a complex script that working with it is enormously difficult, and adding a lot of things to it will be also. I'm going to add NSFM to it, and possibly a couple more new goodies, but I'd like to avoid making it another AM 6 debacle.
Which, by the way, happened because for the last four months and the next four months, I'm being influenced by something that's forcing me into a much less efficient state. It's now fading away, thank goodness, but still is making things difficult for me. I don't think you guys want to wait for October for me to release AM6 or SM3, so this time, I'm going to be trying to do it slowly and figuring out most of it myself to minimize the complexity of the situation so I can actually get it done and not have challenges that delay me forever.
Mz. Gem, if there is a demand for it, I make it. That's why we have some products for gay men and lesbian women. No woman has ever asked for SM for women before. But this is going to take some time.
EDIT: Oh, and about a discount, if you have V2, you're already getting a 50% discount on V3 because of that, as long as you didn't buy it on the Ridiculous Sale. If you did, we'll discount you what you paid for SM 2 instead.
I am fine with an October release date for SM3.0. I have a week and half left on stage 6 of my 2nd run of SM2.0. Then will take a break, then do a round or two of other subs. That may take me into November. Take your time. Also take a break after a run through of revisions. I find that after a break on your writing, you usually come back with a different perspective and see things you didn't notice before. Sometimes, I am like why did I write that. Made sense on that day but the day or two after your perspective is different. Just a suggestion which you may already know, but thought I would mention it nonetheless. And hopefully Andrew or someone else gives you some constructive feedback.
Shannon,
From what I gather, many guys who have done SM have resorted to porn and/or obsessive masturbation in response to the increased sex drive that occurs toward the start of the program. This might be diluting the power and focus of the program and hence decreasing results. Of course it's not the program itself causing this, but their weakness and reliance on porn that causes it. In this way the reliance on porn could be acting as a power leak for the program.
Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to place a protection in SM3 that pushes guys away from porn and/or obsessive masturbation and toward the real world/women in parallel with the increased sex drive. This could plug the leak and help focus the power and intent of SM3.
(08-13-2013, 11:49 PM)TheGraduate Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
From what I gather, many guys who have done SM have resorted to porn and/or obsessive masturbation in response to the increased sex drive that occurs toward the start of the program. This might be diluting the power and focus of the program and hence decreasing results. Of course it's not the program itself causing this, but their weakness and reliance on porn that causes it. In this way the reliance on porn could be acting as a power leak for the program.
Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to place a protection in SM3 that pushes guys away from porn and/or obsessive masturbation and toward the real world/women in parallel with the increased sex drive. This could plug the leak and help focus the power and intent of SM3.
I second that
(08-13-2013, 11:49 PM)TheGraduate Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
From what I gather, many guys who have done SM have resorted to porn and/or obsessive masturbation in response to the increased sex drive that occurs toward the start of the program. This might be diluting the power and focus of the program and hence decreasing results. Of course it's not the program itself causing this, but their weakness and reliance on porn that causes it. In this way the reliance on porn could be acting as a power leak for the program.
Nevertheless, it might be a good idea to place a protection in SM3 that pushes guys away from porn and/or obsessive masturbation and toward the real world/women in parallel with the increased sex drive. This could plug the leak and help focus the power and intent of SM3.
I like this idea and would love to see it included in SM3.