Subliminal Talk

(10-14-2023, 09:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You use whatever format gets the best results.  If a gentler approach produces better results, go for it.  If a more aggressive approach produces better results, use that.  But...

Don't switch until you've given the program time to start actually doing something you can compare to a change.

Okay, I will spend more time with Ultra Sonic (2 weeks) Before trying mask, 

It's always possible that my logic might be wrong anyway but atleast I will be sure then : )

Day 4:

Well I thought things were better untill I got a meeting at my job with My Boss,My Jobcoach and My Lifestyle coach.

Things where going well untill I heard that he wanted to move the days around with the idea it would be better for me.

from Monday,Thursday and Friday. (Yes I work 3 days a week.)

But now he wanted to change it to Monday,Wednesday,Friday, (wich freaked me out because I have my Lifestyle coach with me on Tuesdays and Wednesday and she also only works 3 days a week being: Monday,Tuesday and Wednesday)

So When I heard this I freaked out and Started in Doom Thinking and My Boss responded to me with saying that He's the one who decides when I work and not me (wich is true considering he's my boss).

Luckly it turned out that my Lifestyle coach can change the time to later that same day,So in the end my worrying was for nothing and I got the feeling I offended My boss instead...

Later on I spoke with my Jobcoach about it, who was also there and told me,That it was because of my doom thinking and if I just waited calmly instead of responding with fear that I would have made a better impression.

And that I should take it as a learning moment..

(yes despite being 33, I bearly had any job experiences because no one wanted me after the economic crisis from 2008 because of that A word that I already spammed and complained enough about already)

(I had no job from 2011 till 2017)..

And it was in that moment that I realised that after all this time I'm still the scared child that I always was.... Yes OGSF helped me but mainly to express myself better...

I still Fear conflict, I still fear making mistakes to the point where I just can't let them go,I still fear change... and I really just want to stop being negative and scared all the time..

Mayby this is the reason why I got the feeling to go for Mask instead,because I want the feeling of being nurtured.... dont know if it helps....

I just know that I kept myself from crying and that I just want a hug...

(I might be 33 years old but in the end I'm still a manchild after all...)

I can't wait for the moment my negativity will finally die off for good.

(good thing I already planned to use this experience for a whole year.)

What version of OGSF did you use? The latest one?

(10-17-2023, 05:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What version of OGSF did you use?  The latest one?

No,The first version.

You say you might be 33, but in the end you're still a manchild after all. Do you want to change that?

(10-17-2023, 06:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You say you might be 33, but in the end you're still a manchild after all.  Do you want to change that?

YES!

I do want to change that!

Would be nice not having to worry about everything.

having the self confidence.

having the trust that I finally can get my stuff together. (dont know how much I can with Autism and seizures but still..) 

I like being able to have fun in life without being scared and tired all the time. 

I would love to get an girlfriend and mayby become Father one day. (like I said dont know how much of this is possible but still..)

so, Yes I would like to change that. : )

(10-17-2023, 10:48 PM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-17-2023, 06:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You say you might be 33, but in the end you're still a manchild after all.  Do you want to change that?

YES!

I do want to change that!

Would be nice not having to worry about everything.

having the self confidence.

having the trust that I finally can get my stuff together. (dont know how much I can with Autism and seizures but still..) 

I like being able to have fun in life without being scared and tired all the time. 

I would love to get an girlfriend and mayby become Father one day. (like I said dont know how much of this is possible but still..)

so, Yes I would like to change that. : )

The first step to changing that is to recognize that you have accepted "manchild" as your identity, which is in large part enabling and resulting in the actions that perpetuate that reality.  In other words, you have accepted it as true and unchanging, and you therefore subconsciously (and maybe consciously as well) perpetuate that as being reality for yourself.

The secret to changing that starts with choosing to identify as a self sufficient adult, and start acting like and working towards accepting responsibility like a self sufficient adult.  It means you stop relying on everyone else to tell you who and what you are, and start making those choices for yourself.  It means you decide on a goal for yourself to achieve in terms of what you want to become, and then start consciously working towards it.  And you're going to need to harden up a bit, develop some thicker skin, and stop taking things so personally.  I started off that way as well, but once you understand what needs to be done, it can be done.  I did it using Alpha Male and, ironically Sex Magnet.  Sex Magnet, after several runs of Alpha Male, seems to have been what finally broke through my social anxiety.

It also means that you stop seeking for what you need and want, including approval, permission and love, from others and start providing them for yourself first.  No woman worth having is ever going to choose a manchild, never mind willingly have kids with someone who can't or won't be as strong or stronger than she is, and capable of taking care of himself at the very least.

If you want this, you have a lot of changes to make to yourself, and those changes are going to naturally result in changes in every other part of your life, including your relationship with your parents and everyone else as you start stepping up, becoming the adult you should be at your age, and setting personal boundaries.  You're going to make mistakes in learning this new thing called being a self sufficient man, and that's okay.  It's not always easy to grow and deal with change, but trying to stagnate and hide from the fact that change is the only constant will only make your life progressively worse and harder.

I suggest that when you are ready to make that change, that you first run Absolute Self Confidence for a month or two, and then move on to Alpha Male v6 or later.

And no, it's not going to be easy, and sometimes it won't be fun or comfortable.  But as a man, an adult, you know that that is a standard part of being an adult man, and you learn to deal with it, instead of letting it stop you.

Now the question you have to ask yourself is... am I going to make excuses and hide again, or am I going to make the changes that are necessary to get what will make me happy for once in my life?

(10-18-2023, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-17-2023, 10:48 PM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]YES!

I do want to change that!

Would be nice not having to worry about everything.

having the self confidence.

having the trust that I finally can get my stuff together. (dont know how much I can with Autism and seizures but still..) 

I like being able to have fun in life without being scared and tired all the time. 

I would love to get an girlfriend and mayby become Father one day. (like I said dont know how much of this is possible but still..)

so, Yes I would like to change that. : )

The first step to changing that is to recognize that you have accepted "manchild" as your identity, which is in large part enabling and resulting in the actions that perpetuate that reality.  In other words, you have accepted it as true and unchanging, and you therefore subconsciously (and maybe consciously as well) perpetuate that as being reality for yourself.

The secret to changing that starts with choosing to identify as a self sufficient adult, and start acting like and working towards accepting responsibility like a self sufficient adult.  It means you stop relying on everyone else to tell you who and what you are, and start making those choices for yourself.  It means you decide on a goal for yourself to achieve in terms of what you want to become, and then start consciously working towards it.  And you're going to need to harden up a bit, develop some thicker skin, and stop taking things so personally.  I started off that way as well, but once you understand what needs to be done, it can be done.  I did it using Alpha Male and, ironically Sex Magnet.  Sex Magnet, after several runs of Alpha Male, seems to have been what finally broke through my social anxiety.

It also means that you stop seeking for what you need and want, including approval, permission and love, from others and start providing them for yourself first.  No woman worth having is ever going to choose a manchild, never mind willingly have kids with someone who can't or won't be as strong or stronger than she is, and capable of taking care of himself at the very least.

If you want this, you have a lot of changes to make to yourself, and those changes are going to naturally result in changes in every other part of your life, including your relationship with your parents and everyone else as you start stepping up, becoming the adult you should be at your age, and setting personal boundaries.  You're going to make mistakes in learning this new thing called being a self sufficient man, and that's okay.  It's not always easy to grow and deal with change, but trying to stagnate and hide from the fact that change is the only constant will only make your life progressively worse and harder.

I suggest that when you are ready to make that change, that you first run Absolute Self Confidence for a month or two, and then move on to Alpha Male v6 or later.

And no, it's not going to be easy, and sometimes it won't be fun or comfortable.  But as a man, an adult, you know that that is a standard part of being an adult man, and you learn to deal with it, instead of letting it stop you.

Now the question you have to ask yourself is... am I going to make excuses and hide again, or am I going to make the changes that are necessary to get what will make me happy for once in my life?

You are right, 

Ironicly, I already had alpha male (6g) and woman magnet on my planning but if sex magnet works better I will use that one later instead 

I always thought I needed a strong basis first like OGSF and Aura of Love (even more so when I failed my old experiences) but it's okay. 

The point of Aura of Love is mainly learning to love myself, I also read that when used for a specific time both future and past experiences would work better.

Anyway as soon as Alpha male 6g comes out I will start (Absolute Self confidence and) Alpha male 6g and after that one use Sex magnet instead of woman magnet. 

I know I might risk epileptic seizures (from working to much if I get pushed to do so mentally) but still I would like to act more like my age.

(and who knows I might not even lose my party animal part haha. xD)

(10-18-2023, 09:17 AM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-18-2023, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The first step to changing that is to recognize that you have accepted "manchild" as your identity, which is in large part enabling and resulting in the actions that perpetuate that reality.  In other words, you have accepted it as true and unchanging, and you therefore subconsciously (and maybe consciously as well) perpetuate that as being reality for yourself.

The secret to changing that starts with choosing to identify as a self sufficient adult, and start acting like and working towards accepting responsibility like a self sufficient adult.  It means you stop relying on everyone else to tell you who and what you are, and start making those choices for yourself.  It means you decide on a goal for yourself to achieve in terms of what you want to become, and then start consciously working towards it.  And you're going to need to harden up a bit, develop some thicker skin, and stop taking things so personally.  I started off that way as well, but once you understand what needs to be done, it can be done.  I did it using Alpha Male and, ironically Sex Magnet.  Sex Magnet, after several runs of Alpha Male, seems to have been what finally broke through my social anxiety.

It also means that you stop seeking for what you need and want, including approval, permission and love, from others and start providing them for yourself first.  No woman worth having is ever going to choose a manchild, never mind willingly have kids with someone who can't or won't be as strong or stronger than she is, and capable of taking care of himself at the very least.

If you want this, you have a lot of changes to make to yourself, and those changes are going to naturally result in changes in every other part of your life, including your relationship with your parents and everyone else as you start stepping up, becoming the adult you should be at your age, and setting personal boundaries.  You're going to make mistakes in learning this new thing called being a self sufficient man, and that's okay.  It's not always easy to grow and deal with change, but trying to stagnate and hide from the fact that change is the only constant will only make your life progressively worse and harder.

I suggest that when you are ready to make that change, that you first run Absolute Self Confidence for a month or two, and then move on to Alpha Male v6 or later.

And no, it's not going to be easy, and sometimes it won't be fun or comfortable.  But as a man, an adult, you know that that is a standard part of being an adult man, and you learn to deal with it, instead of letting it stop you.

Now the question you have to ask yourself is... am I going to make excuses and hide again, or am I going to make the changes that are necessary to get what will make me happy for once in my life?

You are right, 

Ironicly, I already had alpha male (6g) and woman magnet on my planning but if sex magnet works better I will use that one later instead

Don't misunderstand me.  You don't need Sex Magnet.  You need to grow into a self sufficient adult.  That's what Alpha Male is designed to do, at a minimum.  Sex Magnet is only for use after you've been through Alpha Male, and it's not aimed at making you grow, it's aimed at making you a raw sex beast that women can't resist.  But at the same time, they'll see you as a piece of fuck meat.  You need a strong self esteem and base for that sort of scenario, and Alpha Male is that base.  Sex Magnet isn't even on the table until you have that sorted.

Quote:I always thought I needed a strong basis first like OGSF and Aura of Love (even more so when I failed my old experiences) but it's okay. 

Is that fear leading to excuses to put it off until tomorrow, which never comes?  AM is not easy, but it will also not allow you to hide from things that need to be done and dealt with.  It's going to force you to deal with the issues holding you back.  AM 6G is a ways off yet, so get yourself prepped with OGSF and such, but don't use those programs and "preparation" as excuses to postpone it if that end goal is what you really want.

Quote:The point of Aura of Love is mainly learning to love myself, I also read that when used for a specific time both future and past experiences would work better.

I get that.  But AM will get you to love yourself too, and in a much better way.  Self respect, self esteem, self worth and self consideration all go way up.  Those are all forms of self love.

Quote:Anyway as soon as Alpha male 6g comes out I will start (Absolute Self confidence and) Alpha male 6g and after that one use Sex magnet instead of woman magnet. 

The first program that will be released in 6G is ASC.  Use that while I'm building the second program, AM v7 in 6G.

Then use AM v7.  Don't worry about Sex Magnet or Woman Magnet, which may not be upgraded any time soon.  Those are both distractions.  Women aren't your goal.  Your goal is to improve and grow within yourself for a while here.  

Quote:I know I might risk epileptic seizures (from working to much if I get pushed to do so mentally) but still I would like to act more like my age.

If your subconscious has figured out how to use epileptic seizures to prevent you from doing things it doesn't want you doing, then I cannot help you.  I will never advise you to risk seizures.  But I don't think that self growth is going to trigger seizures.

Quote:(and who knows I might not even lose my party animal part haha. xD)

Being a self sufficient adult man doesn't mean you become boring or stodgy.  It just means that you can take care of yourself and you don't willingly allow others to take advantage of you.  It means you are self responsible, self capable and self respecting.  When you find something standing in your way, you automatically think, "How do I get past this?" instead of "How do I hide from this?", and then you do what it takes to keep going towards your goals.

Party animal doesn't stop because adult starts.  You just have to moderate and balance your responsibilities with your fun.

Quote: your subconscious has figured out how to use epileptic seizures to prevent you from doing things it doesn't want you doing, then I cannot help you.  I will never advise you to risk seizures.  But I don't think that self growth is going to trigger seizures.

What I ment with it was that My mother and I both fear for me to work 5 full days because I use to get seizures not long ago

Back in 2017, We moved in with my Sister till we found a new house for us to live in. (My mom wanted to move somewhere else because my Dad Died at the end of 2016..) 

There was alot of uncomfortable stuff and I got a few seizure attacks starting from there.. It was also the time where I used Subs from a crappy 15 euro store that promised you good things in only 1 month... with non bineary waves... (man do I regret that..)

In fact it was the Moment I subscribed to your Experiences that I stopped getting seizure attacks in august 2020. The only moment I passed out was because I didn't drink enough water (hence why I now always carry a waterbottle with me) 

I still got pills for it though.. and I mainly suspect it was that cheap skate subs site that caused my Seizures to come back after I lost it at age 7...

I never told this to my mom though... but still there's still this kind of fear of me getting a seizure attack When I get to much stress again in both my mother and myself.. 

This was what I ment with that quote.






 age

(10-19-2023, 08:00 AM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote: your subconscious has figured out how to use epileptic seizures to prevent you from doing things it doesn't want you doing, then I cannot help you.  I will never advise you to risk seizures.  But I don't think that self growth is going to trigger seizures.

What I ment with it was that My mother and I both fear for me to work 5 full days because I use to get seizures not long ago

Back in 2017, We moved in with my Sister till we found a new house for us to live in. (My mom wanted to move somewhere else because my Dad Died at the end of 2016..) 

There was alot of uncomfortable stuff and I got a few seizure attacks starting from there.. It was also the time where I used Subs from a crappy 15 euro store that promised you good things in only 1 month... with non bineary waves... (man do I regret that..)

In fact it was the Moment I subscribed to your Experiences that I stopped getting seizure attacks in august 2020. The only moment I passed out was because I didn't drink enough water (hence why I now always carry a waterbottle with me) 

I still got pills for it though.. and I mainly suspect it was that cheap skate subs site that caused my Seizures to come back after I lost it at age 7...

I never told this to my mom though... but still there's still this kind of fear of me getting a seizure attack When I get to much stress again in both my mother and myself.. 

This was what I ment with that quote.
 age

Okay.  Well, I'm no expert on seizures, and  I don't want you having them if it can be avoided, but you also can't spend your life hiding from what might happen.  That's the ultimate excuse to stagnate, do nothing and accomplish nothing.  Did the doctors tell you what they believe triggered your seizures?

(10-19-2023, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2023, 08:00 AM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]What I ment with it was that My mother and I both fear for me to work 5 full days because I use to get seizures not long ago

Back in 2017, We moved in with my Sister till we found a new house for us to live in. (My mom wanted to move somewhere else because my Dad Died at the end of 2016..) 

There was alot of uncomfortable stuff and I got a few seizure attacks starting from there.. It was also the time where I used Subs from a crappy 15 euro store that promised you good things in only 1 month... with non bineary waves... (man do I regret that..)

In fact it was the Moment I subscribed to your Experiences that I stopped getting seizure attacks in august 2020. The only moment I passed out was because I didn't drink enough water (hence why I now always carry a waterbottle with me) 

I still got pills for it though.. and I mainly suspect it was that cheap skate subs site that caused my Seizures to come back after I lost it at age 7...

I never told this to my mom though... but still there's still this kind of fear of me getting a seizure attack When I get to much stress again in both my mother and myself.. 

This was what I ment with that quote.
 age

Okay.  Well, I'm no expert on seizures, and  I don't want you having them if it can be avoided, but you also can't spend your life hiding from what might happen.  That's the ultimate excuse to stagnate, do nothing and accomplish nothing.  Did the doctors tell you what they believe triggered your seizures?

They said high levels of stress and lack of sleep could be causes.

Welp After some thinking time I guess this is what's gonna happen:

4 month's of Aura of Love (minus the days I already did).

6 month's of OGSF2

Thats 10 month's hopefully that would be enough for Both Shanon to make ASC 6G and for me to save some money to buy it.

And then Use ASC Till AM7 comes out.

(10-19-2023, 10:35 AM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-19-2023, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Okay.  Well, I'm no expert on seizures, and  I don't want you having them if it can be avoided, but you also can't spend your life hiding from what might happen.  That's the ultimate excuse to stagnate, do nothing and accomplish nothing.  Did the doctors tell you what they believe triggered your seizures?

They said high levels of stress and lack of sleep could be causes.

Okay, so the solution there is, get good sleep (this is universal, you need this for success anyway) and learn to manage stress and to handle situations without getting stressed out.  That's part of growing into an adult anyway.

One note on sleep: I see a lot of wealthy and successful people advocating that you sleep less and do more.  This is very myopic advice, since it does not take into account the specific physiological needs of the individual.  Some people can sleep 2-5 hours a night and do just fine, while others (most people) need 7-8, and some need as much as 9-12 to fully recharge their brains and achieve all of the things sleep does for your body otherwise, like healing, flushing out the toxins and waste, etc.  

To get the best sleep, you need to allow yourself sufficient time for your body to achieve all of it's sleep needs naturally, and wake naturally up whenever you need to wake up.  That means you schedule when you go to bed by how long it takes you to fall asleep, and when you need to wake up, so that you wake up on time and get enough sleep.  Try to minimize or eliminate using alarms to wake yourself up if possible.

Stress, negative stress, is almost always caused by fear responses at a subconscious level.  Improving yourself in various ways, including the use of subliminals to help you change your beliefs and so forth, will make a significant positive difference in that regard.  

You just have to make sure you move at the right speed.  But even if you have epilepsy or a related neurological condition, you can find ways to achieve all of your goals.