(03-06-2024, 02:50 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you don't think the cry was over either of the twins, then you're probably safe just taking a break and seeing what's what for 2-3 weeks before going back and trying X4A-1511. If you do think it's because of the twins, then it is my opinion that you need to do a hard disconnect and get right with yourself before trying to continue.
By the sounds of it things aren't hopeless. That's good. I only have what you tell me to go on, so I'm doing my best, but it's limited information.
March 6, 24
I get what you're saying. I think the crying was because for the last month I haven't talked to my family over dumb stuff.
So ...
This is day 2 without x4a 1000 and my mom asked me to take her to Shoneys.
A few minutes after being seated. Morgan brought drinks as we always get the same thing every time.
Morgan talked to us a lot.
She cleaned the table behind me and she stood behind me and talked about what she'd cleaned that morning. I looked behind myself at her then realized... make her orient herself to me. So I turned around and she got closer to me.
She held her arm out straight to show me something on it and we both laughed on something she said and I lifted my hand to nudge her arm but she'd dropped it. She held her arm out again so I held her arm and kinda slid my hand along the underside of her forearm and when my hand touched her thumb pad I naturally dropped my hand.
This happened within 2-3 seconds. We were still laughing.
I just intended to nudge her arm upward to be playfully but that happened instead.
After that she walked off for a minute or two and came kept coming back to talk.
So mom and I checked out and Morgan and I had to wait on a manager to finish with the register.
She and I waited and talked. I told her how to play a joke on everyone by saying some one here is possessed by an owl and whoever says Who first is possessed. She thought it was funny.
That's it besides the good byes.
Morgan is 21 and I don't think she's very experienced with dating. I could be wrong. But her twin Maddy has had a boyfriend for 4 yrs now and Maddy which is also 21 just acts like she knows what's going on when she talks to me.
I mean the way Maddy looks at me like she'd tear me up.
Can't wait till this break is over and I begin x4a 1511
(03-06-2024, 05:08 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-06-2024, 02:50 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you don't think the cry was over either of the twins, then you're probably safe just taking a break and seeing what's what for 2-3 weeks before going back and trying X4A-1511. If you do think it's because of the twins, then it is my opinion that you need to do a hard disconnect and get right with yourself before trying to continue.
By the sounds of it things aren't hopeless. That's good. I only have what you tell me to go on, so I'm doing my best, but it's limited information.
March 6, 24
I get what you're saying. I think the crying was because for the last month I haven't talked to my family over dumb stuff.
So ...
This is day 2 without x4a 1000 and my mom asked me to take her to Shoneys.
A few minutes after being seated. Morgan brought drinks as we always get the same thing every time.
Morgan talked to us a lot.
She cleaned the table behind me and she stood behind me and talked about what she'd cleaned that morning. I looked behind myself at her then realized... make her orient herself to me. So I turned around and she got closer to me.
She held her arm out straight to show me something on it and we both laughed on something she said and I lifted my hand to nudge her arm but she'd dropped it. She held her arm out again so I held her arm and kinda slid my hand along the underside of her forearm and when my hand touched her thumb pad I naturally dropped my hand.
This happened within 2-3 seconds. We were still laughing.
I just intended to nudge her arm upward to be playfully but that happened instead.
After that she walked off for a minute or two and came kept coming back to talk.
So mom and I checked out and Morgan and I had to wait on a manager to finish with the register.
She and I waited and talked. I told her how to play a joke on everyone by saying some one here is possessed by an owl and whoever says Who first is possessed. She thought it was funny.
That's it besides the good byes.
Morgan is 21 and I don't think she's very experienced with dating. I could be wrong. But her twin Maddy has had a boyfriend for 4 yrs now and Maddy which is also 21 just acts like she knows what's going on when she talks to me.
I mean the way Maddy looks at me like she'd tear me up.
Can't wait till this break is over and I begin x4a 1511
The age difference... consider what they are used to versus what you are. They grew up in different times than you did.
Maddy looks at you like she'd tear you up how exactly? That could mean several different things ranging from "Sign me up!" to "Run away!"
(03-06-2024, 07:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-06-2024, 05:08 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]March 6, 24
I get what you're saying. I think the crying was because for the last month I haven't talked to my family over dumb stuff.
So ...
This is day 2 without x4a 1000 and my mom asked me to take her to Shoneys.
A few minutes after being seated. Morgan brought drinks as we always get the same thing every time.
Morgan talked to us a lot.
She cleaned the table behind me and she stood behind me and talked about what she'd cleaned that morning. I looked behind myself at her then realized... make her orient herself to me. So I turned around and she got closer to me.
She held her arm out straight to show me something on it and we both laughed on something she said and I lifted my hand to nudge her arm but she'd dropped it. She held her arm out again so I held her arm and kinda slid my hand along the underside of her forearm and when my hand touched her thumb pad I naturally dropped my hand.
This happened within 2-3 seconds. We were still laughing.
I just intended to nudge her arm upward to be playfully but that happened instead.
After that she walked off for a minute or two and came kept coming back to talk.
So mom and I checked out and Morgan and I had to wait on a manager to finish with the register.
She and I waited and talked. I told her how to play a joke on everyone by saying some one here is possessed by an owl and whoever says Who first is possessed. She thought it was funny.
That's it besides the good byes.
Morgan is 21 and I don't think she's very experienced with dating. I could be wrong. But her twin Maddy has had a boyfriend for 4 yrs now and Maddy which is also 21 just acts like she knows what's going on when she talks to me.
I mean the way Maddy looks at me like she'd tear me up.
Can't wait till this break is over and I begin x4a 1511
The age difference... consider what they are used to versus what you are. They grew up in different times than you did.
Maddy looks at you like she'd tear you up how exactly? That could mean several different things ranging from "Sign me up!" to "Run away!"
There's a big difference in age.. 22 yrs ...I have allowed her to get to know me each time I'm at the restaurant.
Maddy looks at me and locks eyes. She always breaks eye contact first. But it's the I'd bang the crap out of you look.
It's like between 3 to 7 seconds or longer... feels like a long time.
(03-07-2024, 12:11 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-06-2024, 07:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The age difference... consider what they are used to versus what you are. They grew up in different times than you did.
Maddy looks at you like she'd tear you up how exactly? That could mean several different things ranging from "Sign me up!" to "Run away!"
There's a big difference in age.. 22 yrs ...I have allowed her to get to know me each time I'm at the restaurant.
Maddy looks at me and locks eyes. She always breaks eye contact first. But it's the I'd bang the crap out of you look.
It's like between 3 to 7 seconds or longer... feels like a long time.
That sounds like a good thing. Does there seem to be any jealousy between these sisters regarding you?
(03-07-2024, 03:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2024, 12:11 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]There's a big difference in age.. 22 yrs ...I have allowed her to get to know me each time I'm at the restaurant.
Maddy looks at me and locks eyes. She always breaks eye contact first. But it's the I'd bang the crap out of you look.
It's like between 3 to 7 seconds or longer... feels like a long time.
That sounds like a good thing. Does there seem to be any jealousy between these sisters regarding you?
It's possible. I can tell you that when Morgan is my server Maddy comes to talk to me. Morgan will tell her to stop trying to steal me. And said she always does that.
When I direct my attention to Maddy because I don't see Maddy as much. Morgan finds a way to jump in the convo.
Sometimes I'll ask Maddy if she's gonna be working the next day and Morgan will answer and say both of them will be there.
This happened several times and the last 3 or 4 times I've been at the restaurant Maddy hasn't really looked my way.
I just saw it as the twins messing with each other.
What's it sound like to you?
(03-08-2024, 04:10 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2024, 03:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That sounds like a good thing. Does there seem to be any jealousy between these sisters regarding you?
It's possible. I can tell you that when Morgan is my server Maddy comes to talk to me. Morgan will tell her to stop trying to steal me. And said she always does that.
When I direct my attention to Maddy because I don't see Maddy as much. Morgan finds a way to jump in the convo.
Sometimes I'll ask Maddy if she's gonna be working the next day and Morgan will answer and say both of them will be there.
This happened several times and the last 3 or 4 times I've been at the restaurant Maddy hasn't really looked my way.
I just saw it as the twins messing with each other.
What's it sound like to you?
I'm no expert on twins or siblings, being an only child, but that sounds like a bit of competition at the least. It would be easiest for me to know what you're dealing with by observing them in person for a stretch of 30-60 minutes. Probably not gonna happen.
(03-09-2024, 05:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2024, 04:10 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]It's possible. I can tell you that when Morgan is my server Maddy comes to talk to me. Morgan will tell her to stop trying to steal me. And said she always does that.
When I direct my attention to Maddy because I don't see Maddy as much. Morgan finds a way to jump in the convo.
Sometimes I'll ask Maddy if she's gonna be working the next day and Morgan will answer and say both of them will be there.
This happened several times and the last 3 or 4 times I've been at the restaurant Maddy hasn't really looked my way.
I just saw it as the twins messing with each other.
What's it sound like to you?
I'm no expert on twins or siblings, being an only child, but that sounds like a bit of competition at the least. It would be easiest for me to know what you're dealing with by observing them in person for a stretch of 30-60 minutes. Probably not gonna happen.
It'd be awesome but I know you can't observe them in person.
I agree that it's at least a bit of competition. I just hadn't thought much of it till you asked me about it.
It'll be interesting to see how x4a 1511 works on them and anyone else for that matter.
Since I've been on this break from x4a 1000 I've noticed a few older women being rude as F*** to me.
And I've noticed I've been more social with the banter at work with the girls.
There's a girl named Renissa that I call Ren for short.
For some reason I called her Regina to mess with her and she laughed and said we're not friends anymore.
About an hour later she smiled when she saw me and she said we were gonna fight.
I said well, cmon I'll jump off this shelf and do a Mach man Elbow drop.
She said I'd hit the floor. I replied. No you gotta stay still.
She laughed so hard her side hurt.
As I was leaving work tonight I saw her and she looked at me and smiled and I walked up to her and said she was a yellow star burst.
I walked away and it took her a few seconds to realize what I said and she said that was mean but she was laughing.
She knows I'm joking either way as She always jokes with me.
She got upset because you called her a Queen in Latin? lol
(03-10-2024, 01:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]She got upset because you called her a Queen in Latin? lol
Yeah it seemed it was more of a fake mad.
I think of things to say to the twins but I don't say most of it.
Like I thought of asking Morgan how is my future sister in law when asking about Maddy but I don't know how that would go.
I could also reverse that and ask Maddy how is my future wife.
Last night My female team lead is Married to a man and she asked if I wanted to go to a topless bar with her.
Also there is a younger girl 18-20 yrs. Named Amy, we talk a little at work. Amy brought a pallet to a co worker friend of mine Scott and I. She asked him where to put the stuff.
I said Amy you just put it wherever you want and we'll deal with it. Scott laughed and said no I gotta get this done really fast.
I said Oh, yeah, Im sorry get crazy when Amy's around.
Amy's face turned beat red. She wasn't mad but blushing.
(03-10-2024, 06:51 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-10-2024, 01:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]She got upset because you called her a Queen in Latin? lol
Yeah it seemed it was more of a fake mad.
I think of things to say to the twins but I don't say most of it.
Like I thought of asking Morgan how is my future sister in law when asking about Maddy but I don't know how that would go.
I could also reverse that and ask Maddy how is my future wife.
Last night My female team lead is Married to a man and she asked if I wanted to go to a topless bar with her.
Also there is a younger girl 18-20 yrs. Named Amy, we talk a little at work. Amy brought a pallet to a co worker friend of mine Scott and I. She asked him where to put the stuff.
I said Amy you just put it wherever you want and we'll deal with it. Scott laughed and said no I gotta get this done really fast.
I said Oh, yeah, Im sorry get crazy when Amy's around.
Amy's face turned beat red. She wasn't mad but blushing.
I just read about the newer x4a 1600 and 2000.
Will purchasing x4a 1511 still be good to get or should I just wait on the new one?
I don't really wanna lose momentum that I've built with x4a 1000. Please advise.
(03-11-2024, 07:22 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-10-2024, 06:51 PM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah it seemed it was more of a fake mad.
I think of things to say to the twins but I don't say most of it.
Like I thought of asking Morgan how is my future sister in law when asking about Maddy but I don't know how that would go.
I could also reverse that and ask Maddy how is my future wife.
Last night My female team lead is Married to a man and she asked if I wanted to go to a topless bar with her.
Also there is a younger girl 18-20 yrs. Named Amy, we talk a little at work. Amy brought a pallet to a co worker friend of mine Scott and I. She asked him where to put the stuff.
I said Amy you just put it wherever you want and we'll deal with it. Scott laughed and said no I gotta get this done really fast.
I said Oh, yeah, Im sorry get crazy when Amy's around.
Amy's face turned beat red. She wasn't mad but blushing.
I just read about the newer x4a 1600 and 2000.
Will purchasing x4a 1511 still be good to get or should I just wait on the new one?
I don't really wanna lose momentum that I've built with x4a 1000. Please advise.
1600 won't be coming out until after 6G (1600 stands for Branch 1.0, version 6G, just like 1511 stands for Branch 1.0, version 5.11G), and it won't be the first thing I build. 6G is probably still months away.
2000 isn't finished being built yet and hasn't even entered testing. It won't be published at all unless it passes testing, and I don't know how long it will need to be in testing. If it does pass testing, it is going to be a Premium sub, and Premiums all have a minimum price of $1,500 a copy (X4A-2000 will be significantly more than that if it passes testing) and they have a strict "No Refunds, Period" policy.
So far what I'm seeing come out of the models is also suggesting that X4A-2000 is going to be rather polarizing, and may have a specific "type" of woman it works well with. I don't know if that is correct yet, or what type that is yet, so it may or may not even be helpful for the twins.
Therefore, unless you want to wait 3 to 8 months for 1600, I'd get 1511, and not worry about 2000 at all unless it actually passes testing and gets published. Effectively, 2000 is just blueprints unless it gets through testing and gets published.
The 1xxx branch will all use exactly the same Key Script, but have increasingly improved, effective and powerful Skeleton Scripts to support and enhance it. If you like what 1000 was doing, then I suggest staying with the 1xxx branch until you know for sure that something else is what you will benefit from.
Besides, 1511 is not and 1600 will not be a Premium. Much less expensive and you have the option for a refund if need be.
(03-11-2024, 07:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-11-2024, 07:22 AM)Diablojack00 Wrote: [ -> ]I just read about the newer x4a 1600 and 2000.
Will purchasing x4a 1511 still be good to get or should I just wait on the new one?
I don't really wanna lose momentum that I've built with x4a 1000. Please advise.
1600 won't be coming out until after 6G (1600 stands for Branch 1.0, version 6G, just like 1511 stands for Branch 1.0, version 5.11G), and it won't be the first thing I build. 6G is probably still months away.
2000 isn't finished being built yet and hasn't even entered testing. It won't be published at all unless it passes testing, and I don't know how long it will need to be in testing. If it does pass testing, it is going to be a Premium sub, and Premiums all have a minimum price of $1,500 a copy (X4A-2000 will be significantly more than that if it passes testing) and they have a strict "No Refunds, Period" policy.
So far what I'm seeing come out of the models is also suggesting that X4A-2000 is going to be rather polarizing, and may have a specific "type" of woman it works well with. I don't know if that is correct yet, or what type that is yet, so it may or may not even be helpful for the twins.
Therefore, unless you want to wait 3 to 8 months for 1600, I'd get 1511, and not worry about 2000 at all unless it actually passes testing and gets published. Effectively, 2000 is just blueprints unless it gets through testing and gets published.
The 1xxx branch will all use exactly the same Key Script, but have increasingly improved, effective and powerful Skeleton Scripts to support and enhance it. If you like what 1000 was doing, then I suggest staying with the 1xxx branch until you know for sure that something else is what you will benefit from.
Besides, 1511 is not and 1600 will not be a Premium. Much less expensive and you have the option for a refund if need be.
Thanks for explaining everything. I definitely don't wanna wait 3 to 8 month's.
So as best I can remember March 5th 2024 is when I started the break from x4a 1000.
I visited the restaurant and Morgan was my server of course.
She used my name a lot. Saying Hey Rocky When she first saw me and a few times she said Heyyy Rocky when she came to my table.
When I went to leave she was busy getting someone's order so another girl rang me up and the receipt was eaten up by the machine so it was shredded.
I paid the bill and said I'd just leave a cash tip for Morgan.
So the girl called for Morgan and she walked up and said Heyyy Rocky. I gave her the tip she said thanks and she said have a good day. Take care. I said cya.
Up till about a month ago Morgan didn't use my name.
I figure this is a good thing. It's a new thing though. She didn't use my name till about a month ago.
It means something when she remembers and starts using your name.
Here's a little tip for all you guys, if you didn't already know it.
Names are important to women. If you remember her name, and use it, she will feel like she is important to you enough that you remember her name. It makes her feel valued.
This is extremely important when you're dealing with servers, staff members and anyone you want to have a good relationship with. A small detail, but it matters.
I make a point of asking for a specific server, if s/he is available and when/where where that makes sense to do, and I use their name while we are interacting. Not all the time, and not rarely. But conversationally. Enough to make sure they know I know their name, and that I consider them a person, not just some random server to be ignored otherwise.
I choose to ask for servers who I know do a good job and who I get along with. This ensures that I always get better than average service, which is improved upon by me being pleasant with them and making their job easier by always ordering the same thing, so eventually they just remember it and it saves them some time and hassle. I also tip well when they do a good job, and when and where that makes sense, which is usually since they know and like me also as a result.
The result is that whenever I show up at a given restaurant, the entire staff usually recognizes me (because I am one of those rare customers who makes their job easy and serving me isn't a hassle) and they almost all like me. I get better service, and they have an easier time and save time because my order doesn't take much time. They have less stress and we usually have pleasant conversation. Over time, I have noted that doing this also results in two specific additional benefits:
1. I get special treatment that other customers don't get, and I am offered special options and deals. For example, one restaurant I go to offered me a "gold membership" a couple months ago. The owner himself offered this to me because we are regulars and among their most pleasant to serve customers. Only people who are regulars and who they like are even made aware that this exists, and offered a chance to buy in. A gold membership is $300, but it gets you 50% off all food orders there for life. I bought one for myself and one for my girlfriend, and now whenever we go there we eat for the price of one person, not two. We eat there on average maybe 1.5 times a week, so that times 52 means spending that $600 saves me about $1,404 per year, every year I stay in the area. Not a bad deal, and I would never have known it was even an option if I wasn't being polite and considerate as a customer. Furthermore, they only have a small number of these memberships, and once they're sold, they are gone. Not that this will happen at every place you go to, it's probably pretty rare, but the point is, being a good, polite, considerate customer gets you places.
2. The female servers tend to start forming relationships with us. There is one restaurant we go to where the lead server always serves us, and she considers us "her" customers. She will even pull rank to get us, and has been known to stay and serve us even though she's been cut already. She knows our order (even though mine is ridiculously complex and specific at that restaurant) and she will not tolerate mistakes from the kitchen staff. We have seen her actually yell at them when they got GF's eggs wrong twice in a row. She also spends more time with us than other customers, and seems to consider us family. And this isn't the only restaurant where this has happened. At another restaurant, we have three servers and a manager who do this, while at yet a different one, we have another four who do it, and two of the managers will go out of their way to talk to us there.
This latter point matters because if I wasn't taken, this would open me up to the option of dating at least four or five of these servers if I was so inclined, and some of them are definitely high quality wife material.
So consider things from the server's/staff's point of view: they're people just like you, and they have to deal with the public all the time. usually people who are crabby and impossible to please and don't tip well or treat them as people, never mind being nice. Be polite, considerate, thoughtful, bus your table, make their lives easier, be kind and where tipping is appropriate, tip well if they did a good job. It's not an overnight thing, but it comes back in spades.
(03-13-2024, 11:01 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It means something when she remembers and starts using your name.
Here's a little tip for all you guys, if you didn't already know it.
Names are important to women. If you remember her name, and use it, she will feel like she is important to you enough that you remember her name. It makes her feel valued.
This is extremely important when you're dealing with servers, staff members and anyone you want to have a good relationship with. A small detail, but it matters.
I make a point of asking for a specific server, if s/he is available and when/where where that makes sense to do, and I use their name while we are interacting. Not all the time, and not rarely. But conversationally. Enough to make sure they know I know their name, and that I consider them a person, not just some random server to be ignored otherwise.
I choose to ask for servers who I know do a good job and who I get along with. This ensures that I always get better than average service, which is improved upon by me being pleasant with them and making their job easier by always ordering the same thing, so eventually they just remember it and it saves them some time and hassle. I also tip well when they do a good job, and when and where that makes sense, which is usually since they know and like me also as a result.
The result is that whenever I show up at a given restaurant, the entire staff usually recognizes me (because I am one of those rare customers who makes their job easy and serving me isn't a hassle) and they almost all like me. I get better service, and they have an easier time and save time because my order doesn't take much time. They have less stress and we usually have pleasant conversation. Over time, I have noted that doing this also results in two specific additional benefits:
1. I get special treatment that other customers don't get, and I am offered special options and deals. For example, one restaurant I go to offered me a "gold membership" a couple months ago. The owner himself offered this to me because we are regulars and among their most pleasant to serve customers. Only people who are regulars and who they like are even made aware that this exists, and offered a chance to buy in. A gold membership is $300, but it gets you 50% off all food orders there for life. I bought one for myself and one for my girlfriend, and now whenever we go there we eat for the price of one person, not two. We eat there on average maybe 1.5 times a week, so that times 52 means spending that $600 saves me about $1,404 per year, every year I stay in the area. Not a bad deal, and I would never have known it was even an option if I wasn't being polite and considerate as a customer. Furthermore, they only have a small number of these memberships, and once they're sold, they are gone. Not that this will happen at every place you go to, it's probably pretty rare, but the point is, being a good, polite, considerate customer gets you places.
2. The female servers tend to start forming relationships with us. There is one restaurant we go to where the lead server always serves us, and she considers us "her" customers. She will even pull rank to get us, and has been known to stay and serve us even though she's been cut already. She knows our order (even though mine is ridiculously complex and specific at that restaurant) and she will not tolerate mistakes from the kitchen staff. We have seen her actually yell at them when they got GF's eggs wrong twice in a row. She also spends more time with us than other customers, and seems to consider us family. And this isn't the only restaurant where this has happened. At another restaurant, we have three servers and a manager who do this, while at yet a different one, we have another four who do it, and two of the managers will go out of their way to talk to us there.
This latter point matters because if I wasn't taken, this would open me up to the option of dating at least four or five of these servers if I was so inclined, and some of them are definitely high quality wife material.
So consider things from the server's/staff's point of view: they're people just like you, and they have to deal with the public all the time. usually people who are crabby and impossible to please and don't tip well or treat them as people, never mind being nice. Be polite, considerate, thoughtful, bus your table, make their lives easier, be kind and where tipping is appropriate, tip well if they did a good job. It's not an overnight thing, but it comes back in spades.
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Shannon
I agree with all of this.
Tipping well when appropriate and treating the servers well has always been something I do.
Morgan and Maddy will bring my drink to me and make sure I'm having the usual before getting the food.
Morgan and Maddy are both exceptional servers.
I think Morgan has claimed me cus as I said Maddy hasn't been coming to my table and talking lately.
The other girls see me and get Morgan and tell her I'm there.
Morgan gives me discounts that I didn't know about and she'll Write water on the bill even though I always get coke.
Maddy, on the rare occasion she is my server, she fixes it where I pay very little.
It's good she is calling me by name. She just used it a lot today and She hadn't done that before that I can recall.
I wasn't sure what she was trying to convey she said my name so much.
She also kinda does some sorta opera singing sometimes when she bring me another coke.
She's definitely getting more comfortable with me.