(07-08-2022, 01:08 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 09:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 03:51 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Day 34,
It feels as though I've been allowed into 'the world of women' on an energetic level.
It's hard to explain, but it feels like I've been psychically let into their club.
It's a nice feeling; I know that this program deals with concepts of core confidence, self-worth; I honestly think that this is worth more than the actual seduction nuts and bolts.
I'm not putting on a show when I do this; I wind up saying a ton of witty and clever things in the moment, topically flirting without overdoing it. Had an older female colleague move me over, lightly touching at the hips. I had a patient ask if they could hug me before leaving; I'm feeling a fraction of the awkwardness of being 'put on the spot' for unwanted advances and having to calculate if the person is just being friendly or is expressing interest that I would play into by reciprocating.
A most fascinating and intriguing post.
Not something explicitly built into the program? Or am I wording it in a way that's different from the norm?
I completed a 6 month DMSI 3.5 run 3 weeks ago.
I've had similar experiences - plus they also extend into other areas - with animal communication for example. DMSI has added to this, in addition I'm doing energetic sensitivity work, along with heart meditation/activation.
So into DMSI's bloom it now feels like women are literally swarming around me, as happened at a recent group gathering.
So it seems I've turned into a Whisperer, a Chick Whisperer, A Horse Whisperer, A Cat/Dog Whisperer...
The way I've been putting it to a friend is that we all (especially animals) communicate through our emotions, so when i am in my heart space - feeling love, happiness, joy and contentment and such like - those around me feel this and are drawn to this energy - especially with animals - last weekend in a field 2 horses in the middle, whom I was sending love to made a beeline to me - I sensed their strength and power and opened my heart to them and I felt their energy - they too were full of love - their eyes were expressing it. They were pleased to meet someone who was also sensitive like them and able to communicate that from the heart space.
Sorry to ramble - but thought I'd share.
(07-08-2022, 01:19 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]So into DMSI's bloom it now feels like women are literally swarming around me, as happened at a recent group gathering.
So it seems I've turned into a Whisperer, a Chick Whisperer, A Horse Whisperer, A Cat/Dog Whisperer...
The way I've been putting it to a friend is that we all (especially animals) communicate through our emotions, so when i am in my heart space - feeling love, happiness, joy and contentment and such like - those around me feel this and are drawn to this energy - especially with animals - last weekend in a field 2 horses in the middle, whom I was sending love to made a beeline to me - I sensed their strength and power and opened my heart to them and I felt their energy - they too were full of love - their eyes were expressing it. They were pleased to meet someone who was also sensitive like them and able to communicate that from the heart space.
Sorry to ramble - but thought I'd share.
No, this is good; this is in the realm of what I'm talking about. I'm just not sure how many dogs or animals I've seen in the past few weeks.
I think I met two at the beginning when I visited a friend at their home; one was chill and another barked at me then went to chill somewhere else.
Not sure if I felt the 'internal love and peace' with these dogs at the time, though my breakthrough feels like it happened this week.
Also, I've had:
- A mid 50s colleague semi-try to set me up with a 40-year old colleague; did the whole "are you a single guy/are you married?" first.
- A mid 60s patient say that I have a gorgeous face/that I'm gorgeous on a couple of occasions.
- A 90ish year old patient ask if I'm married, state that she could set me up with her niece, then reneged, stating "she's 70, so maybe that wouldn't work"
All females.
For my patients, I often just sit with them and listen; they normally feel rushed by the others.
(07-08-2022, 01:08 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 09:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 03:51 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Day 34,
It feels as though I've been allowed into 'the world of women' on an energetic level.
It's hard to explain, but it feels like I've been psychically let into their club.
It's a nice feeling; I know that this program deals with concepts of core confidence, self-worth; I honestly think that this is worth more than the actual seduction nuts and bolts.
I'm not putting on a show when I do this; I wind up saying a ton of witty and clever things in the moment, topically flirting without overdoing it. Had an older female colleague move me over, lightly touching at the hips. I had a patient ask if they could hug me before leaving; I'm feeling a fraction of the awkwardness of being 'put on the spot' for unwanted advances and having to calculate if the person is just being friendly or is expressing interest that I would play into by reciprocating.
A most fascinating and intriguing post.
Not something explicitly built into the program? Or am I wording it in a way that's different from the norm?
The being let into their club thing is not an unexpected result, but I have never heard it phrased that way.
(07-08-2022, 01:19 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022, 01:08 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 09:25 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-07-2022, 03:51 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Day 34,
It feels as though I've been allowed into 'the world of women' on an energetic level.
It's hard to explain, but it feels like I've been psychically let into their club.
It's a nice feeling; I know that this program deals with concepts of core confidence, self-worth; I honestly think that this is worth more than the actual seduction nuts and bolts.
I'm not putting on a show when I do this; I wind up saying a ton of witty and clever things in the moment, topically flirting without overdoing it. Had an older female colleague move me over, lightly touching at the hips. I had a patient ask if they could hug me before leaving; I'm feeling a fraction of the awkwardness of being 'put on the spot' for unwanted advances and having to calculate if the person is just being friendly or is expressing interest that I would play into by reciprocating.
A most fascinating and intriguing post.
Not something explicitly built into the program? Or am I wording it in a way that's different from the norm?
I completed a 6 month DMSI 3.5 run 3 weeks ago.
I've had similar experiences - plus they also extend into other areas - with animal communication for example. DMSI has added to this, in addition I'm doing energetic sensitivity work, along with heart meditation/activation.
So into DMSI's bloom it now feels like women are literally swarming around me, as happened at a recent group gathering.
So it seems I've turned into a Whisperer, a Chick Whisperer, A Horse Whisperer, A Cat/Dog Whisperer...
The way I've been putting it to a friend is that we all (especially animals) communicate through our emotions, so when i am in my heart space - feeling love, happiness, joy and contentment and such like - those around me feel this and are drawn to this energy - especially with animals - last weekend in a field 2 horses in the middle, whom I was sending love to made a beeline to me - I sensed their strength and power and opened my heart to them and I felt their energy - they too were full of love - their eyes were expressing it. They were pleased to meet someone who was also sensitive like them and able to communicate that from the heart space.
Sorry to ramble - but thought I'd share.
I have had some experiences that I don't often talk about, but they revealed to me what I can only conclude is akin to the "language of the soul". Words, language, it isn't. It's like a combination of emotions and... something else... and the something else is itself a hybrid between what we would understand as "language" and something else again... but it allows for so much more to be communicated, and so much more rapidly and completely, that after those experiences I felt like I was only able to communicate less than 1% of what I wanted to being forced back into the limits of language.
Animals have a much more emotional/energy based communication system, and horses seem to be exceptionally emotionally aware.
(07-08-2022, 02:54 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Also, I've had:
- A mid 50s colleague semi-try to set me up with a 40-year old colleague; did the whole "are you a single guy/are you married?" first.
- A mid 60s patient say that I have a gorgeous face/that I'm gorgeous on a couple of occasions.
- A 90ish year old patient ask if I'm married, state that she could set me up with her niece, then reneged, stating "she's 70, so maybe that wouldn't work"
All females.
For my patients, I often just sit with them and listen; they normally feel rushed by the others.
Bedside manner is one of the lost aspects of being a doctor, or a nurse, or a PA. It is helpful not only to understand what the issue is, but to make the patient feel valued as a person, and genuinely cared about by their attending staffer. That helps in the healing process.
Amusing stories. How do women in the age ranges you like respond?
(07-08-2022, 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-08-2022, 02:54 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Also, I've had:
- A mid 50s colleague semi-try to set me up with a 40-year old colleague; did the whole "are you a single guy/are you married?" first.
- A mid 60s patient say that I have a gorgeous face/that I'm gorgeous on a couple of occasions.
- A 90ish year old patient ask if I'm married, state that she could set me up with her niece, then reneged, stating "she's 70, so maybe that wouldn't work"
All females.
For my patients, I often just sit with them and listen; they normally feel rushed by the others.
Bedside manner is one of the lost aspects of being a doctor, or a nurse, or a PA. It is helpful not only to understand what the issue is, but to make the patient feel valued as a person, and genuinely cared about by their attending staffer. That helps in the healing process.
Amusing stories. How do women in the age ranges you like respond?
Not really talking to a lot of women in that range at this time, but I think there is marginal improvement.
There are two women on one unit that I visit that I had interacted with
One of them, I matched with on Tinder two years ago, and I have her Instagram. She's been a bit more sassy and always has a quick line to shoot back at me. I think she's probing for congruence, or just flirting. She's changing departments so I'm considering pursuing it.
The other - one I consider genuinely hot - I met at my gym, I got her number, we exchanged texts, then she ghosted when I suggested making plans. When I eventually worked on her unit, she was quiet and never acknowledged me. I I genuinely didn't know if she recognized me (I later learned that she knew who I was).
In another unit, there's this hot asian gal in her early 20s, but she's engaged. She gives me a lot of attention, more than before DMSI.
I impressed some early twenties-women (not in the attractiveness range I would ever consider, but still nice people) at work when I tried out the piano in the break room for the first time.
One of those colleagues had brought her mom to work a week or two ago; she had visited my office cubicle where I have another colleague too; I learned that the mom later asked "WHO was THAT?!" in reference to me haha.
tl;dr: nothing explicit in terms of sexual advances, but there are noticeable signs.
Day 36,
I'll be going out on a pub crawl.
I'm feeling very anxious, as though I have the need to deliver on the promises of the DMSI sales page.
I always worry that I'll miss the 2-second window of an attractive woman passing by and miss my chance forever.
I assume that if I relax and don't feel the need to move around too much, a woman that's interested in me will re-position herself closer to me.
Fucking cocksucking piece of shit!
The anxiety took over, and I felt anti-social all night. Didn't chat much with even my buddies.
Something about all of the moving pieces and the loud music that makes me shut down.
Saw some attractive women but I didn't make the approach; it felt weird and ackward.
Note that a few weeks ago, I was eager to approach any pretty woman at the gym.
Didn't really feel any desire to do that tonight.
I'm going to cram my brain with with fucking subliminal loop after loop until something shifts.
Anything less than that feels like a waste of my life.
I suggest that you're not going to solve the problem doing that. What you need is an active FRM, which DMSI v3.5 does not have. It's active in DMSI-Custom. Be patient while we test this. It's really hard to test with only one Tier 2 tester and no way to test it myself, but we are seeing a slow and steady advancement of the program to the goal for the testers I do have running it. It's been in testing about a month now, and my two testers both report good and improving results, but one rarely has the opportunity to encounter women he's interested in, but reports obvious and positive results when he does; the other is reporting a slow, steady progress, and estimates it'll achieve the goal within the expected estimated time frame. He has technically had it already achieve the goal, but has to turn down many of the offers he gets because he does not want to "fish off the company pier", if you catch my drift.
It won't be forever. Be patient.
(07-09-2022, 10:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest that you're not going to solve the problem doing that. What you need is an active FRM, which DMSI v3.5 does not have. It's active in DMSI-Custom. Be patient while we test this. It's really hard to test with only one Tier 2 tester and no way to test it myself, but we are seeing a slow and steady advancement of the program to the goal for the testers I do have running it. It's been in testing about a month now, and my two testers both report good and improving results, but one rarely has the opportunity to encounter women he's interested in, but reports obvious and positive results when he does; the other is reporting a slow, steady progress, and estimates it'll achieve the goal within the expected estimated time frame. He has technically had it already achieve the goal, but has to turn down many of the offers he gets because he does not want to "fish off the company pier", if you catch my drift.
It won't be forever. Be patient.
My issue is that I spent a solid 5 - 5.5 months on Overcoming Fear, and I experienced virtually zero approach anxiety. I walked up to dozens of young women at my gym, with virtually no success (boyfriend, etc.). Since starting DMSI, I talk myself out of approaching, I've generally lost that inner spark/desire to talk to the pretty woman in the room, and yesterday, when I saw somebody that I was attracted to, I talked myself out of going up to her.
Feels like taking 5 steps back.
(07-10-2022, 10:47 AM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2022, 10:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest that you're not going to solve the problem doing that. What you need is an active FRM, which DMSI v3.5 does not have. It's active in DMSI-Custom. Be patient while we test this. It's really hard to test with only one Tier 2 tester and no way to test it myself, but we are seeing a slow and steady advancement of the program to the goal for the testers I do have running it. It's been in testing about a month now, and my two testers both report good and improving results, but one rarely has the opportunity to encounter women he's interested in, but reports obvious and positive results when he does; the other is reporting a slow, steady progress, and estimates it'll achieve the goal within the expected estimated time frame. He has technically had it already achieve the goal, but has to turn down many of the offers he gets because he does not want to "fish off the company pier", if you catch my drift.
It won't be forever. Be patient.
My issue is that I spent a solid 5 - 5.5 months on Overcoming Fear, and I experienced virtually zero approach anxiety. I walked up to dozens of young women at my gym, with virtually no success (boyfriend, etc.). Since starting DMSI, I talk myself out of approaching, I've generally lost that inner spark/desire to talk to the pretty woman in the room, and yesterday, when I saw somebody that I was attracted to, I talked myself out of going up to her.
Feels like taking 5 steps back.
That's completely understandable. DMSI v3.5 uses external FRM only, and the idea was that it would work for the user too, by virtue of being within your own energy field. But as we see, that is not always the case. Fear not completely removed can and does regenerate. That's one of the biggest challenges to fear removal.
FRM v6 is a new version of FRM and it does things differently. The way it does things is much more likely to result in a permanent change in removal of fear. It's in OFv4, and DMSI Custom. In 5.9G it also gets a much higher impact configuration than what was in OFv3. And when I say "much higher", I'm chuckling, because it's such a big difference that the only real way for me to communicate it without looking ridiculous is to have you guys see for yourselves.
We still have around 1-2 months of testing to go on DMSI Custom before I release it. In your shoes, while I waited for DMSI-Next, I would probably subscribe to OFv4 and see how the time spent on that went.
(07-10-2022, 11:19 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2022, 10:47 AM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]My issue is that I spent a solid 5 - 5.5 months on Overcoming Fear, and I experienced virtually zero approach anxiety. I walked up to dozens of young women at my gym, with virtually no success (boyfriend, etc.). Since starting DMSI, I talk myself out of approaching, I've generally lost that inner spark/desire to talk to the pretty woman in the room, and yesterday, when I saw somebody that I was attracted to, I talked myself out of going up to her.
Feels like taking 5 steps back.
That's completely understandable. DMSI v3.5 uses external FRM only, and the idea was that it would work for the user too, by virtue of being within your own energy field. But as we see, that is not always the case. Fear not completely removed can and does regenerate. That's one of the biggest challenges to fear removal.
FRM v6 is a new version of FRM and it does things differently. The way it does things is much more likely to result in a permanent change in removal of fear. It's in OFv4, and DMSI Custom. In 5.9G it also gets a much higher impact configuration than what was in OFv3. And when I say "much higher", I'm chuckling, because it's such a big difference that the only real way for me to communicate it without looking ridiculous is to have you guys see for yourselves.
We still have around 1-2 months of testing to go on DMSI Custom before I release it. In your shoes, while I waited for DMSI-Next, I would probably subscribe to OFv4 and see how the time spent on that went.
How soon do you figure that Overcoming Fear v4 will come out? My inner child can't wait
Also, is DMSI-Next included as part of the free upgrades?
(07-10-2022, 01:13 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2022, 11:19 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-10-2022, 10:47 AM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]My issue is that I spent a solid 5 - 5.5 months on Overcoming Fear, and I experienced virtually zero approach anxiety. I walked up to dozens of young women at my gym, with virtually no success (boyfriend, etc.). Since starting DMSI, I talk myself out of approaching, I've generally lost that inner spark/desire to talk to the pretty woman in the room, and yesterday, when I saw somebody that I was attracted to, I talked myself out of going up to her.
Feels like taking 5 steps back.
That's completely understandable. DMSI v3.5 uses external FRM only, and the idea was that it would work for the user too, by virtue of being within your own energy field. But as we see, that is not always the case. Fear not completely removed can and does regenerate. That's one of the biggest challenges to fear removal.
FRM v6 is a new version of FRM and it does things differently. The way it does things is much more likely to result in a permanent change in removal of fear. It's in OFv4, and DMSI Custom. In 5.9G it also gets a much higher impact configuration than what was in OFv3. And when I say "much higher", I'm chuckling, because it's such a big difference that the only real way for me to communicate it without looking ridiculous is to have you guys see for yourselves.
We still have around 1-2 months of testing to go on DMSI Custom before I release it. In your shoes, while I waited for DMSI-Next, I would probably subscribe to OFv4 and see how the time spent on that went.
How soon do you figure that Overcoming Fear v4 will come out? My inner child can't wait
Also, is DMSI-Next included as part of the free upgrades?
Final configuration of OFv4 is underway.
The free upgrades ended with v3.5.