I've been running Male Enhancement since 10/1/21 and do not seem to be getting the results others are. My subconscious is telling me I'm not listening to it enough so over time I've added loops and reduced days off to 1.
I've had pretty consistent wild swings in sex drive since I started using it. I have stretches of a few days where I'm hit with extreme arousal 3-5 times per day (like when I was 15-20, I'm now 39) and then it craters to barely anything for a week or two. During the few days with high arousal my erection feels much harder than normal, but this fades after a couple days into the low sex drive cycle. I know it is physically possible for my penis to be much larger than it currently is even without new tissue growth. I used a hypnosis program years ago that added about 2 inches of length compared to where I am now, but those results faded over time.
I'm not sure what to make of this or what I might do differently to get the results I want. I didn't have weird unexpected results like this running OF/OFv2.
(03-27-2022, 02:04 AM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]I've been running Male Enhancement since 10/1/21 and do not seem to be getting the results others are. My subconscious is telling me I'm not listening to it enough so over time I've added loops and reduced days off to 1.
I've had pretty consistent wild swings in sex drive since I started using it. I have stretches of a few days where I'm hit with extreme arousal 3-5 times per day (like when I was 15-20, I'm now 39) and then it craters to barely anything for a week or two. During the few days with high arousal my erection feels much harder than normal, but this fades after a couple days into the low sex drive cycle. I know it is physically possible for my penis to be much larger than it currently is even without new tissue growth. I used a hypnosis program years ago that added about 2 inches of length compared to where I am now, but those results faded over time.
I'm not sure what to make of this or what I might do differently to get the results I want. I didn't have weird unexpected results like this running OF/OFv2.
I'll need to know what your usage pattern is and generally how you got to it over time. What you're describing is almost certainly some part of you trying to prevent it from working. If it's used properly and it isn't being fought, you should have a smooth and consistent experience.
The hypnosis program you talk about didn't add anything if the results disappeared. What it did was allow you to fully inflate your penis, which tells me that some part of you is for some reason avoiding doing that and increasing your penis size.
The days of high arousal is almost certainly where you are using the program so much that the growth factors being released are resulting in extreme arousal, and when your sex drive craters, they're not being released at all because of the attempts to prevent the growth.
Why would you have some part of you fighting this? Have you had some sort of traumatic experience that could have been interpreted as "big penis bad, smaller penis safe"?
(03-27-2022, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2022, 02:04 AM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]I've been running Male Enhancement since 10/1/21 and do not seem to be getting the results others are. My subconscious is telling me I'm not listening to it enough so over time I've added loops and reduced days off to 1.
I've had pretty consistent wild swings in sex drive since I started using it. I have stretches of a few days where I'm hit with extreme arousal 3-5 times per day (like when I was 15-20, I'm now 39) and then it craters to barely anything for a week or two. During the few days with high arousal my erection feels much harder than normal, but this fades after a couple days into the low sex drive cycle. I know it is physically possible for my penis to be much larger than it currently is even without new tissue growth. I used a hypnosis program years ago that added about 2 inches of length compared to where I am now, but those results faded over time.
I'm not sure what to make of this or what I might do differently to get the results I want. I didn't have weird unexpected results like this running OF/OFv2.
I'll need to know what your usage pattern is and generally how you got to it over time. What you're describing is almost certainly some part of you trying to prevent it from working. If it's used properly and it isn't being fought, you should have a smooth and consistent experience.
The hypnosis program you talk about didn't add anything if the results disappeared. What it did was allow you to fully inflate your penis, which tells me that some part of you is for some reason avoiding doing that and increasing your penis size.
The days of high arousal is almost certainly where you are using the program so much that the growth factors being released are resulting in extreme arousal, and when your sex drive craters, they're not being released at all because of the attempts to prevent the growth.
Why would you have some part of you fighting this? Have you had some sort of traumatic experience that could have been interpreted as "big penis bad, smaller penis safe"?
Great post, Shannon.
I'd also like to add doing further due diligence.
Checking the volume the sub is played at, number one. Making sure it's loud enough to be effective by using an app on a phone like Frequensee, or the app I use that can also measure ultrasonic, SPLnFFT.
Two, verifying the format used can be reproduced by the speakers properly. If you're using ultrasonic/hybrid which contains ultrasonic as well as masked, Eddie, it's important to check whether your speakers can properly reproduce that. The IML store has a free download to test to verify this for us:
https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...eaker-test
Third: Are you getting any burning sensations in around the penis and pelvis/hip areas (connective tissues etc.)? Any tinges of discomfort? Those are clear signs of growth occurring, just for reference. Of course, if you really do doubt any growth has occurred, you could just re-measure flaccid length and girth, erect length and girth, and compare all 4 of those measurements to the ones you took before you started listening. That could soothe your concern, even though it's generally advisable to not measure constantly during a sub like this, especially due to random variance of flaccid numbers, thus unnecessarily giving the listener concern the sub is not working etc. But in this case, it may be helpful for you, if all other factors we've listed check out as working as intended.
Getting a handle on these factors as well, should help you get on the right foot here. Welcome, Eddie.
(03-27-2022, 06:24 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Checking the volume the sub is played at, number one. Making sure it's loud enough to be effective by using an app on a phone like Frequensee, or the app I use that can also measure ultrasonic, SPLnFFT.
Does this app need to be used on another phone and I just put that phone next to the one playing the sub is this how it works? What should be the level showing on the app that is recommend? I do 16 clicks on my iphone that's 2 less than the max this is what I remember Shannon recommending.
(03-27-2022, 10:43 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2022, 06:24 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Checking the volume the sub is played at, number one. Making sure it's loud enough to be effective by using an app on a phone like Frequensee, or the app I use that can also measure ultrasonic, SPLnFFT.
Does this app need to be used on another phone and I just put that phone next to the one playing the sub is this how it works? What should be the level showing on the app that is recommend? I do 16 clicks on my iphone that's 2 less than the max this is what I remember Shannon recommending.
That's what I do with SPLnFFT, yes. Then I set the "second" phone with the app to where my ears would go for headphones, or where my head is for when listening to loops with the first phone, ultrasonic speaker. That way I have an accurate figure for the volume. SPLnFFT lists it clearly in decibels, and also shows the safety of the volume and how long one could listen to it without issue. I tend to go for 70ish decibels on the high end with headphones (hybrid), but at least 60-65 decibels on the low end with the speakers minimum (ultrasonic). It's a bit quieter with the phone, due to distance and also volume from the device itself. Overall, the two levels seem beefy and at the maximum safe level for hearing.
I'm currently doing 7 loops when I sleep, 3 days on 1 day off. I went to 1 day off after a month of my subconscious telling me I needed more, then added 1 more loop every 3-4 weeks when the messages persisted.
Assuming some part of subconscious is fighting this for the sake of argument, how would I know why it would do that? There is no benefit to doing, so making the notion highly illogical. I'm a very rational and logical person, arguably to a fault. In Myers-Briggs tests I come out INTJ with at least 95% affinity in each category, so I'm practically a perfect textbook case for everything it says I am, for better and worse. I can't even come up with a crazy reason why part of my subconscious could come to the conclusion that not having a larger penis would be in my best interest. If anything my experience has been "my larger than average but not huge penis bad, big penis good" from dealing with women that think the horsecocks they see in porn are average.
To Catman's points, I am a discriminating audiophile, not some pleb that thinks a phone with a $.25 DAC and $.50 speakers is an acceptable means of reproducing audio. By the time you have about $30k in McIntosh products you start to get real sound and it only makes you want to save up a far larger pile of money to buy something even better. My hardware is not the issue. It reproduces frequencies below and above everything in the test file with no problem. And yes, it plays loudly enough that I can hear it. If that were the issue I wouldn't have gotten results from OF either. If anything I thought AutoConfig was designed to handle volume concerns. That has been my experience. I run hybrid to avoid going deaf should I go crazy one night and turn the volume up too high. With the amount of power going through my system I'd wake up deaf if I blasted ultrasonics too loudly all night. I'm pretty sure that's not an exaggeration,
7 loops ? that seems like a lot more than what would be good, but idk. More isn't always better. Have you gotten any results at all? Or zero? I'm talking since you started this sub, and current measurement. Also, just to be sure, my measurements sometimes vary day by day depending on how subtly more or less erect I am, as well as my measurement technique. Small growths may seem like none or even negative size change if measurement technique and hardness isn't consistent. That's why I'm going to avoid measuring for a while now.
Based on the instructions in the sales copy I was under the impression that you weren't supposed to measure for 9 months? I would have thought a monthly measurement was reasonable but Shannon explicitly poo-poos the idea. From past experience with penis enlargement* my erection feels much larger before the tape measure agrees, and that hasn't happened yet.
Between my age and day-to-day variances in erection quality I consider anything within 1/8" in length or girth to be within the margin of error and not definitive proof or growth or shrinkage.
*Hypnosis, extenders (they work but suck, about 0.5" of length per 1000 hours in a torture device, yes, ONE THOUSAND hours before someone asks if I meant 100) and hanging weights (results lasted about 3 years but hanging enough weight for serious gains is both difficult and extremely painful when the slightest thing goes wrong).
(03-28-2022, 02:40 PM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]Based on the instructions in the sales copy I was under the impression that you weren't supposed to measure for 9 months? I would have thought a monthly measurement was reasonable but Shannon explicitly poo-poos the idea. From past experience with penis enlargement* my erection feels much larger before the tape measure agrees, and that hasn't happened yet.
Between my age and day-to-day variances in erection quality I consider anything within 1/8" in length or girth to be within the margin of error and not definitive proof or growth or shrinkage.
*Hypnosis, extenders (they work but suck, about 0.5" of length per 1000 hours in a torture device, yes, ONE THOUSAND hours before someone asks if I meant 100) and hanging weights (results lasted about 3 years but hanging enough weight for serious gains is both difficult and extremely painful when the slightest thing goes wrong).
yeah i tried hanging for a short while but it was a big hassle lol. This sub is a GODSEND. Let's hope for M.E. 5.9g ASAP!! =]
(03-28-2022, 02:05 AM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]I'm currently doing 7 loops when I sleep, 3 days on 1 day off. I went to 1 day off after a month of my subconscious telling me I needed more, then added 1 more loop every 3-4 weeks when the messages persisted.
Assuming some part of subconscious is fighting this for the sake of argument, how would I know why it would do that? There is no benefit to doing, so making the notion highly illogical. I'm a very rational and logical person, arguably to a fault. In Myers-Briggs tests I come out INTJ with at least 95% affinity in each category, so I'm practically a perfect textbook case for everything it says I am, for better and worse. I can't even come up with a crazy reason why part of my subconscious could come to the conclusion that not having a larger penis would be in my best interest. If anything my experience has been "my larger than average but not huge penis bad, big penis good" from dealing with women that think the horsecocks they see in porn are average.
Your conscious mind is INTJ. Your subconscious mind is the seat of emotion, irrational, illogical, intuitive and generally makes no damned sense most of the time. You are correct, to do so is highly illogical, except that by the logic of the subconscious, in every case I have ever traced to it's absolute origin, the subconscious for some reason thinks it is preventing your literal physical death, or in some cases, that part of it is trying to prevent its own "death" instead of having some set of beliefs replaced that would allow the necessary changes.
My best guess would be that some part of you somehow has the idea that a huge cock would get you killed because Ron Jeremy might get mad or something equally ridiculous.
Are you doing your specific usage patterns in all cases because of what you believe to be AutoConfig? Volume, format, loops per day and days on to days off?
Ah, now you're talking about the crazy part of the subconscious that was designed to keep you alive in times before anything we would recognize as civilization. The reptile mind, the reactive mind, there are different names for it depending on what you read. There are known processes to neutralize everything it does and then eliminate that obsolete portion of the mind. And since you brought it up....when is that process going to be automated into a subliminal? Presently the only options require you to undergo regular expensive and emotionally turbulent in-person sessions for a few years. From personal experience I can confirm the process is not optimal. I would think you'd have plenty of financial motivation to make it. Assuming you could only get 1% of the people that have already invested 4 figures chasing this to buy your subliminal at current prices you'd be sitting on a 8-figure pile of money. After taxes.
My usage patterns are directed by AutoConfig, or so my subconscious tells me explicitly. It has worked that way since a few weeks into OF. It also had me listen more than is normally recommended on OF and would regularly tell me to increase the volume when it was dealing with something particularly nasty. Messages to crank up the volume haven't been nearly as common on ME.
(03-29-2022, 03:43 PM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, now you're talking about the crazy part of the subconscious that was designed to keep you alive in times before anything we would recognize as civilization. The reptile mind, the reactive mind, there are different names for it depending on what you read. There are known processes to neutralize everything it does and then eliminate that obsolete portion of the mind. And since you brought it up....when is that process going to be automated into a subliminal? Presently the only options require you to undergo regular expensive and emotionally turbulent in-person sessions for a few years. From personal experience I can confirm the process is not optimal. I would think you'd have plenty of financial motivation to make it. Assuming you could only get 1% of the people that have already invested 4 figures chasing this to buy your subliminal at current prices you'd be sitting on a 8-figure pile of money. After taxes.
Financial motivation is all well and good, but it does not result in me having unlimited time or hours awake to do everything and learn everything. However, if you point me in the direction of what you're talking about I will endeavor to educate myself and see what can be done to automate the process, since that would seem to potentially be the final solution needed to finish the Fear Removal Module.
Quote:My usage patterns are directed by AutoConfig, or so my subconscious tells me explicitly. It has worked that way since a few weeks into OF. It also had me listen more than is normally recommended on OF and would regularly tell me to increase the volume when it was dealing with something particularly nasty. Messages to crank up the volume haven't been nearly as common on ME.
With ME, the key is going to be that you need to get enough exposure and you need to give the body time to do it. In your case, it would seem that you also have some sort of sticking point subconsciously which we must work against. I'm pleased that the AutoConfig is working for you.
(03-30-2022, 01:31 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-29-2022, 03:43 PM)Eddie Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, now you're talking about the crazy part of the subconscious that was designed to keep you alive in times before anything we would recognize as civilization. The reptile mind, the reactive mind, there are different names for it depending on what you read. There are known processes to neutralize everything it does and then eliminate that obsolete portion of the mind. And since you brought it up....when is that process going to be automated into a subliminal? Presently the only options require you to undergo regular expensive and emotionally turbulent in-person sessions for a few years. From personal experience I can confirm the process is not optimal. I would think you'd have plenty of financial motivation to make it. Assuming you could only get 1% of the people that have already invested 4 figures chasing this to buy your subliminal at current prices you'd be sitting on a 8-figure pile of money. After taxes.
Financial motivation is all well and good, but it does not result in me having unlimited time or hours awake to do everything and learn everything. However, if you point me in the direction of what you're talking about I will endeavor to educate myself and see what can be done to automate the process, since that would seem to potentially be the final solution needed to finish the Fear Removal Module.
Quote:My usage patterns are directed by AutoConfig, or so my subconscious tells me explicitly. It has worked that way since a few weeks into OF. It also had me listen more than is normally recommended on OF and would regularly tell me to increase the volume when it was dealing with something particularly nasty. Messages to crank up the volume haven't been nearly as common on ME.
With ME, the key is going to be that you need to get enough exposure and you need to give the body time to do it. In your case, it would seem that you also have some sort of sticking point subconsciously which we must work against. I'm pleased that the AutoConfig is working for you.
Damn, I want to run ME after I finish MLS and attract love.