Subliminal Talk

I will try to keep this short. 

Haven't met the goal yet but I guess I've seen somethings. There is one woman I got her number off tinder. Will see where that goes but also there is one other thing which is all the foreigner chicks I'm kind of long term with at the moment just starting getting more loving and willing to send photos. I do think i will still just focus on foreigner chicks mainly because quite frankly after an experience recently I kind of feel like the dating situation especially in western countries is just kind of toxic compared to what I've experienced in Asia and Latin America. I do plan on traveling next month or in February most likely to visit someone in Bolivia. 

I have experienced some of the negative side effects of the sub in a way or I should say other's negative responses to the sub though the Shield in the sub has worked just fine. Basically I had ended up going on this very specific site because I'm more into submissive type women. So it was a site that was more on the submissive, dominant, etc relationship type of seekers. Since I already have some women i plan on moving in with after I get a remote job I thought that would also give me a bit more clout so I had mentioned that and put a picture here or there. Oh man, I have to tell you I was kind of skeptical about Shannon putting in so many safeties at first but now I really understand him a lot more on that. Basically I had a bunch of single males on that site (or at least a certain subset) who thought I was either "creepy" because I was involved with more than one woman long distance who i've had plans on moving in with for the long term or they just straight up refused to believe I was dating any of these women. 

Holy shit you should have seen some of the toxicity and the insecurity on display. I literally saw one guy who in his profile mentioned how dominate and "alpha" he is who then posted in one of my personals I put out accusing me of thinking of women as just objects. His reason in believing this? Literally just because I used the term "my girls". Literally that was it and he thought I was toxic for some reason or had unhealthy views. I then kindly asked him they actually like it when I talk that way (which is true by the way) and if he does not qualify for what I asked (literally only mentioned women specifically) if he would kind just leave my thread. Dude then went on an argument session for I don't know how long clogging up my thread even after I blocked him and then only didn't respond anymore after I reported him as he knew he fucked up at the point and didn't want to dig himself any further. Another dude literally invaded my profile page and put toxic comments and BS on every photo I had put up. 

It was the usual "You ain't going out with those women dude its just all fake" (this is despite me putting up proof of at least one whatsapp group chat we had made for ourselves in a screenshot). Ended up blocking him and reporting him. I mean throughout this whole episode I wasn't really upset more in disbelieve and I don't get what any of these guys were hoping to achieve with this nonsense. However as I said with this incident I actually understand why Shannon put all these safeties in. I can only imagine the horror of what would happen if you had guys like that having the aura working just fine like in DMSI. They obviously have plenty of insecurities (while calling themselves alpha and dominant) and have no qualms harming anyone they don't "like". The only thing I can assume is that these guys are so desperate and needy that it just scares women away and they can't stand seeing another guy who not only has a relationship with a woman but several. I think that just makes them fucking angry so much that they can't control themselves. 

It kind of also made me sympathize with certain women more (well, not the ones with super bad or entitled attitudes). If your an attractive women and you have these kind of super needy and full of insecurities guys around you or trying to hit you up I can see why they just get tired of that nonsense. I think the worst part is with these guys is they literally delude themselves into thinking they are some great catch as well while they scream desperation and neediness. So I think I'm done with more local sites. Think I will just go back to international sites, etc. This has also made me want to leave the US even more. The dating market is full of women and men who are just emotionally and psychologically unstable yet they think they are just fine or a great catch. Yeah there are still plenty of decent people here but I feel like those are the minority. Just my personal opinion. Could be a bad belief system on my part that I need to get over so we shall see. I just find it a lot easier dating chicks from Asia or Latin America at this point. 

Though to end this report I do have to say I am quite happy with the women I have been talking to even before this sub. Relationship seems to be getting better and they are just a lot more easier to deal with when there are issues. Anyway, to recap have one prospective women from tinder that I will see where that goes, had negative reactions from single males online (though the shield has held up), and fully understand from first hand experience why Shannon put these safe guards in place. 

P.S. totally forgot internal changes have been great. Feeling a lot more happy, joyful and confident.

You're seeing DMSI effects on women at great distances whom you interact with online then?

(12-28-2021, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You're seeing DMSI effects on women at great distances whom you interact with online then?

So far its affecting the women I already talked with through whatsapp. Some things on tinder but that was only 2 so far I would say. The original woman i mentioned before and there was another but she got scared off. we were talking and she mentioned how she was watching porn (a first any woman has mentioned that outright to me before) but then i maybe replied to sexually in a joke I made then she got scared off and unmatched me. Maybe she caught herself as well thinking why she was acting this way maybe? As for the other site I mentioned nothing so far except for one woman who seemed somewhat interested then heard nothing. I will be getting back on the international sites and seeing what results I get on those. One other thing I should mention is there was one foreign chick who I hadn't contacted again in like 3 months because she never replied then all of a sudden I think it was the day right before DMSI's release or soon after she contacted me out of the blue and really wanted to be in contact with me.

(12-28-2021, 10:25 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-28-2021, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You're seeing DMSI effects on women at great distances whom you interact with online then?

So far its affecting the women I already talked with through whatsapp. Some things on tinder but that was only 2 so far I would say. The original woman i mentioned before and there was another but she got scared off. we were talking and she mentioned how she was watching porn (a first any woman has mentioned that outright to me before) but then i maybe replied to sexually in a joke I made then she got scared off and unmatched me. Maybe she caught herself as well thinking why she was acting this way maybe? As for the other site I mentioned nothing so far except for one woman who seemed somewhat interested then heard nothing. I will be getting back on the international sites and seeing what results I get on those. One other thing I should mention is there was one foreign chick who I hadn't contacted again in like 3 months because she never replied then all of a sudden I think it was the day right before DMSI's release or soon after she contacted me out of the blue and really wanted to be in contact with me.

I just wanted to verify that DMSI still affects people you interact with online at any physical distance.  I believe that seeing them, or their communications, focuses you on them in a way that naturally acts like a long range sniper, and I wasn't sure if people were getting that effect in 3.4/3.5.  Glad to hear it is still there.

so, I think i figured out what this sub is doing on a few different levels.

I will start with the internal stuff. I noticed I first was concentrated on changing my beliefs while listening to the sub or at least that was the plan. As an experiment I think last week I listened to the hybrid version. Yep, this is the version for me and it was apparent right away. Before I even pressed play its like I went into this trance for about half an hour before I turned it on. It was like I was rocking in my bed repeating: "I don't want to resist anymore". I believe this was my subconscious knowing it can't resist anymore especially in this format and then also its like I felt this internal existential crisis as if I was going to "die". After playing the sub that day It was really interesting as I just felt a lot lighter like something just was removed out of my head. Like there was a lot more space in my mind and it wasn't cluttered as much.

However the biggest change so far was yesterday after playing hybrid. I actually find that I can get TID for up to hours before I even hit play. My mind enters a sort of focused state and all of a sudden I come to all sorts of realizations I hadn't thought of before. In this case the major thing was that I had to change my values. Sounds weird but the logical was kind of brought o my attention. Essentially, the logic, thinking and values I hold in one "reality" are of no use to me or are counter productive in another. So if I want to be in that reality I need to adopt the type of thinking, logic and values that will help me be successful. So I changed my values and how I see things. I also realized something the values I was holding on weren't even my values. They were someone else's values that they taught to me and I accepted them as "me". Only thing they never were they were all I ever knew and I didn't really have an option when I was younger. You usually just believe what you are told then.

Now I truly feel free as now I have values that I have chosen for myself. Everything is as I have chosen. One could say "well the sub is still kind of instructing you on what to believe" but here's the thing. On some part of me by choosing toe buy the sub and run it I am choosing to accept those values and beliefs. When I was younger with parents and society trying to enforce their values on to me I didn't have as much of a choice. I will say since yesterday I have just had this unstoppable confidence in myself and I have this underlying aggression. The aggression that makes you want to compete.

I know the aura works but I don't think it affects most women because of the "hurt" clause. I think yesterday I only noticed 3 women that might have been affected by it due to shooting looks every once in a while but too hesistant to approach. Guess it hasn't found anyone locally where it just affects them full on. I am talking to some red head bbw type women who contacted me online locally. We are chatting for now and she is the submissive type. Will see how that goes.

Now on to the main thing where I think it has been working in the background and now I'm starting to see it pull things together. So a lot of those women I was talking to that are generally pretty hot and mostly in Latin America. So I was first made of aware by one of them that they had a contact who works for their government and knows counterparts in the United states who could get her into the united states (legally I might add). It was recently I might add, where I got more direct from the sub of what it was doing, in that essentially they are now encouraged to seek out this deal along with a few of the other women. Which means they would be able to come legally to the united states and we can meet and potentially live together. The living thing came in later as something interesting came up.

So my father had already mentioned how I was in his will to inherit what he had and he has been encouraging me to come down to Texas, etc. So in between all that I mentioned above I had decided to take him up on his offer as there was good job opportunities for after I finish my degree (actually even beforehand as well). So basically I will end up inheriting the house, some land, and a second house he has in a different area that is about 40 minutes away or so. I do also have plans to expand the space on the property as the backyard is very large. Its interesting how this was all set in motion actually and I have noticed the girls I had been talking to for months already being affected by the sub heavily. I guess this is it moving things in the background to try to get me in a position to execute. I know this because when I first heard of that option the other woman told me about I was unusually focused on it and thinking about it often.

Anyway, I might add all these women (except for one though I thing she can be persuaded) know about each other and are open to threesomes, etc. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure this is the sub at work. There's actually a good chance the main chick I talked about who knows the person in her government might be coming in a few weeks. So, I would say this sub is working though for me its working in a round about way. I will later possibly post the pictures for the women but after like a day I will take it down as I don't want there faces just kept up on here, etc.

Either way, sub is working and the internal changes are awesome. However once they are here or most of them I will probably switch back to MLS as I need to get this degree finished honestly so I can move on to my masters degree. Also side note in case anyone is worried about me i have been talking to these women for close to a year now and I screen very meticulously. Usually as soon as I see any woman who acts bad or just acts very suspicious I kick them to the curb. I've only talked to these for so long because they have proved themselves to be trustworthy.

Anyway, will report more when something else happens. Look for my post regarding the pictures probably later today. I might just keep them up for 2 days or so for people who don't visit the forums regularly. You all take care.

DMSI 3.5 does not give you beliefs or values. That is not my place. What it does is tell you, "This is the goal. Make the changes that get you there." It leaves what those changes are and how to make them entirely up to you.

Sounds like good results. I'm enjoying the reports and experiences of overcoming resistance.

(01-03-2022, 10:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]DMSI 3.5 does not give you beliefs or values.  That is not my place.  What it does is tell you, "This is the goal.  Make the changes that get you there."  It leaves what those changes are and how to make them entirely up to you.

Sounds like good results.  I'm enjoying the reports and experiences of overcoming resistance.

oh ok thanks for correct that. So literally, It is nothing but a set of instructions and gives some leeway into how best to accomplish them? Of course as long as that leeway given is not used to self sabotage correct?

(01-03-2022, 10:49 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-03-2022, 10:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]DMSI 3.5 does not give you beliefs or values.  That is not my place.  What it does is tell you, "This is the goal.  Make the changes that get you there."  It leaves what those changes are and how to make them entirely up to you.

Sounds like good results.  I'm enjoying the reports and experiences of overcoming resistance.

oh ok thanks for correct that. So literally, It is nothing but a set of instructions and gives some leeway into how best to accomplish them? Of course as long as that leeway given is not used to self sabotage correct?

With regards to what you need to change about your beliefs and values, it is my belief that it is not my place to impose my beliefs onto you.  I am human, and therefore I cannot claim to have the One True Answer.  I am not going to control you and or take away your freedom of choice, belief and self creation through my subliminals when I don't have the right to do that or the One True Answer.  So when it comes to determining what to change and how to change your belies, morals, etc. in those directions, you are given a goal and your own awareness decides the best things to change and how to change them to achieve that goal. 

With regards to other things, such as how to do things that do not fall into such categories, I give more specific instructions as to what to do and how to do it to achieve the program goals.  But I will never take away or manipulate your freedom of choice and will.

Would very much appreciate it if no one replied directly to this when replying as that would just copy all the pictures and the long post their their own post. Thanks. Will delete this after 2 days or so.

Nice options.

(01-04-2022, 12:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Nice options.

Thanks. It took a while to sort through women who might be disingenuous or who were just playing games. These ones have earned my trust and I've been talking consistently with them a few months short of a year. 

In other news had 3 other women contact me out of the blue. One that apparently I had given my number to a long time ago then decided to contact me. The second one had seen my profile on one of the international sites but is a Chinese woman who is currently in Florida who is quite financially stable and owns a business as well. The last one is actually from Thailand who is in the city right next to me and is quite keen on meeting. The last one seems quick desperate to have a relationship and get married which kind of puts off a red flag a bit but I will at least see her first. It might be just a cultural thing with her. 

Anyway, I did of course notice pretty much all of them are foreign women who are in the united states currently. I find this interesting as my subconscious seems to stick with that theme. I guess it might have to do with my dislike of American culture and how people indoctrinated in such a culture, deeply that is, seem to not be really relationship worthy to me nor do I think I find them sexually attractive all that much. It probably also has to do with me having much better experiences abroad with people in general. 

Either way took a few weeks but it seems the sub seems to be doing its job and I see it pulling things together to make it all work.

Nice man, they are cute.

So all those girls are foreign? What app are you using to meet them?

(01-04-2022, 08:46 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]So all those girls are foreign? What app are you using to meet them?

Honestly I would try using one of the cupid sites. When I say that I don't mean things like ok Cupid but there is a list of international cupid sites that you can look up ran by the same company. For example you might have ones like Latincupid or filipinocupid, etc. It all depends on what you are looking for. However one rule of thumb I had was picked a country where I found the women attractive but also where fertility rates are generally normal or a bit higher. The reason I take into account fertility rates is because quite frankly I use it as a kind of screen of how feminized a country is. You usually find in countries where feminism is a really big, major thing fertility rates drop like a rock to the point that a lot of these countries are below replacement level (aren't having enough children to replace the existing population) and they are starting to turn into an aging population (more older people than young people). So far doing things like this has worked though that doesn't mean I haven't had shift through a lot of horrible human beings in general who think its your "duty" to serve them for some idiotic reason. The women I found above I came to trust after months and months of talking and them remaining consistent throughout that time. I would say I have talked to most of them a few months short of a year at this point. 

Added point with some of these women its quite easy you know if your looking for a poly type relationship. I literally put my profile in a way to initially kind of sell myself and then brought it up point blank in my profile. Some women were still turned off immediately but others just were like "oh, that's all you want? I can do that as long as we get in a physical relationship eventually and my needs are met". Like literally every single one of them are basically down for threesomes, etc except for the Asian chick. Also quite honestly a lot of them are in better shape and eat healthier than most of the local women in my area (all of them know how to cook by the way and rarely eat out). 

@BenjaminThanks. I guess in the end I kind of got what I wanted in a way.

In other news since the deal is most of them will need to stay here 10 years before they can even travel outside the country I will probably I think during that time I will just finish up my education during the first 4 years or so then spend the next 6 working for Netflix or similar high paying companies so that when the 10 years is up I will probably be moving to get a second passport. As of now the choices are Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Europe (Spain). Right now I am more leaning towards Spain or New Zealand as I find the cultures more tolerable for having a family in.