(03-24-2021, 05:49 AM)JustAnotherLeader Wrote: [ -> ]Fear and confidence are antonyms as far I understand. (English is my second language)
So my first assumption is that OF/FRM module is about removing fear, whereas ASC is about adding in confidence.
Could we consider our mental state much like a scale in this manner? ASC is great and all, but it simply adds in more confidence without removing any of the existing fear.
Let's first consider the fact that ASC is an early 5G subliminal, from around 2010 IIRC, and you're comparing it to a module and subliminal that is very recent. This alone makes the comparison apples to asteroids. But the approach is relatively accurately described as removing fear or adding confidence. However, you cannot add confidence when fear underlies it, which is part of why I developed the FRM and OF.
Quote:Now here's the interesting question; does high confidence make the subliminals work better or worse?
Confidence is a strong certainty of something being true. If I say I am confident that I can make the world's best subliminals, for example, it means I am strongly believing that to be true to a high degree of probability. To affect the execution of a subliminal, the confidence must both be positive and appropriate. I can be confident in a positive, neutral or negative way.
Maybe I am confident that subliminals are just placebo effect, and can't/won't affect me. That would be negative confidence, and that would tend to work against the execution of the subliminal based on negative expectations, which the subconscious will accept as an instruction to stop the subliminal from working on order to maintain the consciously expected "nothing is happening because subliminals don't work" outcome.
On the other hand, I might be confident in a way that enhances how well the subliminal I'm using works. This could be confidence in the maker of the subliminal, confidence in the subliminal itself, or confidence in something else that leads me to either not get in the way of the subliminal and execute it, or to try to help it along.
Then there is neutral confidence, which is confidence in the veracity and likelihood of something that does not impact the effectiveness of the subliminal. I am very confident that tomorrow, there will be a sunrise. That doesn't make Maximum Immune Response work better or less well than it would have otherwise.
Then you have appropriate confidence, which is confidence that can and or will affect the outcome of the usage of the subliminal. Neutral confidence is inappropriate for this, so it has no impact.
Confidence
can impact the effectiveness of a subliminal, but is not necessary to make it work if it is created, scripted, built and used properly. And it is not guaranteed to have an impact on the effectiveness or execution of a subliminal.
Quote:Everyone here knows about the fight or flight situation, and one could assume confidence helps us fight. So is it possible that someone with such high confidence would show resistance to subliminals because he's more likely to fight and preserve its current status? Does this make the will of the user a giant variable in the equation?
That would have to be a highly confident person whose confidence basically is preserving something that contradicts subliminals working, or the particular goals of the specific subliminal being used. For example, I have a long time friend who started off refusing to believe subliminals worked at all. This man is very intelligent, and has a personality that takes that intelligence and turns it into high confidence about what he believes. So confident, in fact that it makes him an arrogant asshole in some cases, and if you said that to his face, he would probably agree.
He started off refusing to believe that subliminals work, based partly on a conscious assessment of "the evidence", and partly on a subconscious terror of not having complete control of his own mind and thus his own choices. He is only aware of the former. His "evidence" was a rather quick look at what the Internet had to say about it, no doubt skewed by his subconscious fear of not being in control of his own mind. When he learned that I was running a business selling subliminals, he was not shy about telling me that he "wasn't impressed that I was scamming people" because "subliminals don't work".
When I attempted to explain to him that he was missing information and that I could prove to him that subliminals do in fact work - provided that they are scripted, built and used properly - he shut me down and refused to hear what I had to say. That was how I knew he was afraid of them; that is not the response a rational, logical man like him gives to things. Normally he is glad to debate things and if you can prove him wrong, he will adjust his point of view accordingly. But in this case, he wasn't even willing to hear the counter argument.
Later on I managed to get him into a discussion in which I succeeded in presenting some of my argument, and when faced with this, he adjusted his argument to, "Well, maybe they work, but only on the weak-minded." Of course he would hear nothing further, and so my point that it was about fear was lost.
Later still, I told him I was going to do formal double blind clinical trials of my subliminals in the most rigorous manner possible, and asked him what he would do if the answer came back that they worked with statistical proof. His answer was that he would still not believe that they worked. Again... the answer of someone responding from fear, not logic.
Now based on experiments I have done concerning how willpower affects the subliminal (which do not involve this particular gentleman, and were done with the consent of those involved), I know that strong will is going to affect the execution of a subliminal according to the following variables:
1. Does the conscious mind know it is being exposed to the subliminal?
2. Is the conscious mind the source of strong will, or the subconscious, or both?
3. Is the goal of the program or some part of the process to achieving that goal triggering fear?
4. If so, how strong is the fear?
5. Is the program built and used properly?
I happen to be very strong willed. I also happen to be a very good executor of subliminals in most cases. My strong will exists within my conscious and subconscious awareness, and only when one particular aspect of my subconscious disagrees with the goal of the program for some reason do I ever have resistance reactions.
Willpower does not determine acceptance or rejection; willpower determines the force and completeness of the reaction against or for. So you can take the most strong willed person in the world and they will execute a subliminal just fine as long as:
1. The program is scripted, built and used properly.
2. They accept the script, goals and methods of the script.
3. They do not have any part of them react with fear to the goals or the methods required to achieve those goals.
4. They don't have some "reason" to resist. Example: We had a guy here who told me once that he (consciously) resisted DMSI because it was a point of pride for him to be able to do so; it was his way of reinforcing hos self image of being "strong" as a man in that "nobody else could control him or tell him what to do". Of course this was really based in a fear of not being good enough, strong enough, manly enough, which goes back to Point #3 (and all Point #4 examples will be traced back to Point #3 if you look deep enough at "why").
Anyway, back to the example of my long time friend who is afraid of subliminals taking away his free will; he is a very, very strong willed man. But would subliminals affect him anyway? Absolutely! Here is why.
If he knows it's playing consciously, he will consciously lock himself down in response to any noticed effects the program has and thus basically stonewall; but to stonewall and correct for the subliminal's effects to "prevent it from having an effect", he must be compensating for an effect it is having on him. Regardless of how well he prevents it from looking like it's affecting him, it is affecting him if he must compensate for the effect it is having in order to make it look like nothing is happening.
If he doesn't know it's playing consciously, he will react subconsciously only; in which case, the question must be asked: is his subconscious as strong willed as his conscious? In his case, I'm relatively sure it is not. And then, we must also ask: is the goal or any aspect of achieving that goal perceived as being scary or a potential threat to his subconscious self? If so, he will resist; if not, he will very likely execute unless and until he consciously notices he is executing, in which case his conscious mind will respond by shutting down the execution either by compensation or whatever other method is necessary.
Confidence only plays a role in all this in that he is "confident that subliminals don't work" at a conscious level as a way of dealing with his subconscious fear that they do work, and because they work, pose a threat to his free will, when in fact his freewill is what determines whether or not they will be executed.
Quote:Can we get the most out of subliminals if we implement a zen mindset first?
Do you think people with a zen mindset are lacking strong willpower?
A Zen mindset really isn't going to affect a subliminal except by quelling fears. A Zen mindset is a very poor way to get better results from a subliminal compared to Overcoming Fear. Or the FRM that goes into most of my subliminals since 5.75.xG.
Zen state and willpower really have nothing to do with each other. Bhuddist monks commonly have excellent Zen state and excellent willpower, both developed through meditation and practice.
I'm still busy trying to develop the tech while building programs to keep us afloat until we have a chance to make some changes that will make things easier. Once those changes are done, and I am done developing the tech, we should be in a good position to build 6G. Exactly when that is, I don't yet know.