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(04-03-2021, 07:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2021, 04:54 AM)JustAnotherLeader Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-24-2021, 11:41 PM)GreekGod22 Wrote: [ -> ]Might wanna wait for AM7.

Well, I know I wouldn't be able to afford 6G program prices, so might as well get AM6 while I can : ) 
I've been waiting long enough for a discount for AM6, which doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon Big Grin

and when is 6G coming out anyway? I couldn't find any info on the forum, and FAQ says "when it's done" : )))

If you read the FAQ, then you know when it's coming out.  :Smile I'm still busy trying to develop the tech while building programs to keep us afloat until we have a chance to make some changes that will make things easier.  Once those changes are done, and I am done developing the tech, we should be in a good position to build 6G.  Exactly when that is, I don't yet know.

Quote:PS: I'd get AM5 if I could. I'm happy to settle for old tech and less but still effective change. I'm not sure how I'll handle AM6, since I read newer tech is more likely to trigger resistance, and I'm not a long-term sub user like many of you are.

AM5 is definitely not as good as AM6.  

As to triggering resistance, you have to understand what's really going on.  Over time, in my quest to improve my subliminals, I found that things seemed to only improve up to 4G.  But I couldn't get the results to be as permanent as I wanted, and I couldn't get that because they were not really penetrating the subconscious and becoming the new baseline programming well enough.  Sure, they work fine while you use them, but in most cases, you could run the forever and they wouldn't become permanent because they were not replacing the existing subconscious programming.

Then came 5G, which was powerful enough to start encroaching on that sort of territory, where it could become long term programming.  That triggered a lot of subconscious fear, because the existing programming was subonsciously seen as "safe", no matter what it was doing to make the person unhappy at the conscious level.  This is what made the resistance visible for the first time.  It had always been there, as evidenced by the fact that the effects were not becoming long term or permanent.  Only in 5G did it become consciously visible.

In 5.5G it became more visible, and I worked more on dissolving it.  That led to 5.75.0G, which was even better about dealing with fear, and between the methods, techniques, technology, power and fear fighting abilities, 5.75.0G was finally making solid progress towards achieving the results I wanted to see.

Then we had breakthroughs that led from 5.75.0G to .1, .2, .3, .4,.5, .6 and finally (as of this writing), .7G.  5.75.1G and later do a really good job.

The closer we get to the program actually achieving it's goals, the more fear is generated because the subconscious equates change with vulnerability, threat and strangely, literal death.  So until we override that fear response, the programs will generate more and more feat, which is more and more resistance.

The 5.75.xG series is starting to see significant success with that.  Much more success, much less fear.  But AM6 was the program that was the first to show us that the resistance existed.  I didn't even know it existed until that program had been out 6 to 8 months and I could analyze the responses.  Some people respond witth resistancem, some do not.  but if you want that propram yo really do it's job, you need to run the latest version of Overcoming Fear before you run it.

Shannon, does it mean that even after using OF, we would not get permanent result from 4g title and older simply because it's not powerful enough?
(04-04-2021, 05:44 AM)Habib Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2021, 07:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-25-2021, 04:54 AM)JustAnotherLeader Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-24-2021, 11:41 PM)GreekGod22 Wrote: [ -> ]Might wanna wait for AM7.

Well, I know I wouldn't be able to afford 6G program prices, so might as well get AM6 while I can : ) 
I've been waiting long enough for a discount for AM6, which doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon Big Grin

and when is 6G coming out anyway? I couldn't find any info on the forum, and FAQ says "when it's done" : )))

If you read the FAQ, then you know when it's coming out.  :Smile I'm still busy trying to develop the tech while building programs to keep us afloat until we have a chance to make some changes that will make things easier.  Once those changes are done, and I am done developing the tech, we should be in a good position to build 6G.  Exactly when that is, I don't yet know.

Quote:PS: I'd get AM5 if I could. I'm happy to settle for old tech and less but still effective change. I'm not sure how I'll handle AM6, since I read newer tech is more likely to trigger resistance, and I'm not a long-term sub user like many of you are.

AM5 is definitely not as good as AM6.  

As to triggering resistance, you have to understand what's really going on.  Over time, in my quest to improve my subliminals, I found that things seemed to only improve up to 4G.  But I couldn't get the results to be as permanent as I wanted, and I couldn't get that because they were not really penetrating the subconscious and becoming the new baseline programming well enough.  Sure, they work fine while you use them, but in most cases, you could run the forever and they wouldn't become permanent because they were not replacing the existing subconscious programming.

Then came 5G, which was powerful enough to start encroaching on that sort of territory, where it could become long term programming.  That triggered a lot of subconscious fear, because the existing programming was subonsciously seen as "safe", no matter what it was doing to make the person unhappy at the conscious level.  This is what made the resistance visible for the first time.  It had always been there, as evidenced by the fact that the effects were not becoming long term or permanent.  Only in 5G did it become consciously visible.

In 5.5G it became more visible, and I worked more on dissolving it.  That led to 5.75.0G, which was even better about dealing with fear, and between the methods, techniques, technology, power and fear fighting abilities, 5.75.0G was finally making solid progress towards achieving the results I wanted to see.

Then we had breakthroughs that led from 5.75.0G to .1, .2, .3, .4,.5, .6 and finally (as of this writing), .7G.  5.75.1G and later do a really good job.

The closer we get to the program actually achieving it's goals, the more fear is generated because the subconscious equates change with vulnerability, threat and strangely, literal death.  So until we override that fear response, the programs will generate more and more feat, which is more and more resistance.

The 5.75.xG series is starting to see significant success with that.  Much more success, much less fear.  But AM6 was the program that was the first to show us that the resistance existed.  I didn't even know it existed until that program had been out 6 to 8 months and I could analyze the responses.  Some people respond witth resistancem, some do not.  but if you want that propram yo really do it's job, you need to run the latest version of Overcoming Fear before you run it.

Shannon, does it mean that even after using OF, we would not get permanent result from 4g title and older simply because it's not powerful enough?

The issue that you have with 4G is not just resistance based in fear, it's also very old scripting methods from ~2006-2008 when I obviously knew a lot less about how to script subliminals, and the fact that the build methods were much less advanced also.  If you remove all fear, and thus resistance to the subconscious changing the "script" it is running on, then theoretically, a 4G subliminal can achieve permanent results.  However, this is only theoretical because:
  • Your subconscious is constantly changing every day what "script" you're running on because it is constantly gathering new experiences and modifying the script being run at different levels of your subconscious, and
  • New layers of your subconscious are being added as you experience these things, and 
  • Other things are also trying to change this script, in whole or in fart, such as subliminals and other forms of mind programming, which may be more powerful, effective and capable than a 4G subliminal.
If you correctly run a 4G, and accept it completely and it becomes "permanent" programming, and then you (as an example) get into a car accident, your emotional response and processing of the experience may potentially overwrite some part of the 4G script if they are somehow related or overlap, and your interpretation of the experience causes the "old" programming from the 4G to be "threatening" to the subconscious in some way as a result of that interpretation.  (Remember, no logic at all with your emotional subconscious.)

If you run a 4G sub and accept it completely and it becomes "permanent" programming, and then you run a subliminal of an equal or later generation, and the goals are identical, similar or partially overlap or are contradictory, the later gen sub will most likely overwhelm, override and overwrite the 4G instructions.

If you run a 4G and "make it permanent" and then your daily life presents you witl an endless stream of contradictory input, over time, that contradictory input will override the "permanent" result unless you keep refreshing and reinforcing it using the subliminal.

You are a dynamic system.  Not black and white, not static.
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