(09-30-2020, 01:29 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2020, 12:06 AM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ]Trying to change your appearance shows to your subconscious that you don't accept yourself, when you listen other types of subliminals maybe they are trying that you accept yourself more, and it gives different messages to your subconscious. Maybe that could be one reason .
I am not sure but i dont think so bcz i stopped appearance subs since a year and it still happens with normal subs. Thats why its so hard for me to listen 6 loops a day bcz i get uglier day by day. Unfortunatly ive no other option. I hope fear is the root of everything and this will stop eventually so i can improve every area of my life and to be honest i dont care about my side effects anymore. I dont fear them anymore.. im like this: ok subconscious you want to react this way i will make it worse for you and double the time of listening..
Are you 100% sure of that? Has someone told you this changes? Maybe is your subconsciuos that he doesn't change and make you think you look worst.
Any way if you don't in the opposite way, first your inside and after maybe you don't need to change the outside or if you do it could be forever.
(09-30-2020, 01:56 AM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2020, 01:29 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2020, 12:06 AM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ]Trying to change your appearance shows to your subconscious that you don't accept yourself, when you listen other types of subliminals maybe they are trying that you accept yourself more, and it gives different messages to your subconscious. Maybe that could be one reason .
I am not sure but i dont think so bcz i stopped appearance subs since a year and it still happens with normal subs. Thats why its so hard for me to listen 6 loops a day bcz i get uglier day by day. Unfortunatly ive no other option. I hope fear is the root of everything and this will stop eventually so i can improve every area of my life and to be honest i dont care about my side effects anymore. I dont fear them anymore.. im like this: ok subconscious you want to react this way i will make it worse for you and double the time of listening..
Are you 100% sure of that? Has someone told you this changes? Maybe is your subconsciuos that he doesn't change and make you think you look worst.
Any way if you don't in the opposite way, first your inside and after maybe you don't need to change the outside or if you do it could be forever.
Yes im sure of that and others seen that too plus i know some others that are expierencing similar things. Im now years into that my friend you can bet on it when i say something i studied it from every little detail
I think its not logical the more i try to understand it the less i know
Btw im in a whatsappgroup with others that expierenced similar things but they think they are cursed or something like that and i know someone personally..whatever he listens to he gets always the opposite..
What im trying to say is: Every subconscious is different but all of this cases are real the question should not be if its an illusion.. the question should be why is this happening and how can i solve it once and for all and till now i couldnt solve it and im trying for years bit i will never give up.. i have that dream that one day everything reverts back and everything works exactly like i want
I forgot to mention one major result on page 1:
I was always focused on my ex.. but with OF 5.75 i realised that i was scared to be alone. I thought i wouldnt find someone better. Me wanting her came from a standpoint of "lack". I needed her to be fulfilled from the inside.
But now i realised that that was totally wrong im no longer scared to be alone and i improved the most important relationship: the relationship with myself. I understood that ive to be "full" from the inside and no matter how many girls will come into my life the focus should always be on myself
Btw can someone explain me why we cant listen to another subliminal additional? For example OF 5.75 and am6. Isnt the mind powerful enough for that? Isnt the fear removal with alpha male the perfect combination? What will happen if we do? I am just curious.
What i mean is is it not better for someone with my case to use the fear removal and the am6 (because of better self image) to overload my resistance that tries to resist every little change with "punishments"?
I had never a problem with achieving the goals of a program (except the opposite results) , the problem is that every change results in a "punishment" of my subconscious mind which makes me stop the program at the end. So i had the thought maybe i should add another program like am6 to make the intensity higher. I understand that its an overload but maybe i need exactly this in my special case. I am just curious maybe i am totally wrong i just wrote some of my thoughts down
(10-01-2020, 02:11 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]Btw can someone explain me why we cant listen to another subliminal additional? For example OF 5.75 and am6. Isnt the mind powerful enough for that? Isnt the fear removal with alpha male the perfect combination? What will happen if we do? I am just curious.
You will get a painful headache.
You will be exhausted and sleep for hours or days.
You will be lethargic.
Imagine going to a concert. Instead of hearing one band at a time. Pretend every band was allowed to play at the same time. You wouldn't be able to comprehend one song from the other and end up leaving the concert.
Each subliminal script has a specific goal.
My advice to you would be to set it and forget it.
One day you will have an epiphany that the goal of the subliminal worked for you.
Also, what is your goal and which subliminal will help you achieve that goal??
It seems you are being drawn into opposite directions.
(10-01-2020, 06:30 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 02:11 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]Btw can someone explain me why we cant listen to another subliminal additional? For example OF 5.75 and am6. Isnt the mind powerful enough for that? Isnt the fear removal with alpha male the perfect combination? What will happen if we do? I am just curious.
You will get a painful headache.
You will be exhausted and sleep for hours or days.
You will be lethargic.
Imagine going to a concert. Instead of hearing one band at a time. Pretend every band was allowed to play at the same time. You wouldn't be able to comprehend one song from the other and end up leaving the concert.
Each subliminal script has a specific goal.
My advice to you would be to set it and forget it.
One day you will have an epiphany that the goal of the subliminal worked for you.
Also, what is your goal and which subliminal will help you achieve that goal??
It seems you are being drawn into opposite directions.
Oh ok thank you for the explaination.
My one and only goal is a subconscious mind (ego) that stops resisting in form of attacking my previous subliminal results.
A subconscious mind that doesnt "punish" me for listening to life changing subliminals would be nice... for the beginning
A subconscious mind that doesnt see subliminals as a threat and is open for changes... those are my goals..
(10-01-2020, 07:21 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 06:30 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 02:11 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]Btw can someone explain me why we cant listen to another subliminal additional? For example OF 5.75 and am6. Isnt the mind powerful enough for that? Isnt the fear removal with alpha male the perfect combination? What will happen if we do? I am just curious.
You will get a painful headache.
You will be exhausted and sleep for hours or days.
You will be lethargic.
Imagine going to a concert. Instead of hearing one band at a time. Pretend every band was allowed to play at the same time. You wouldn't be able to comprehend one song from the other and end up leaving the concert.
Each subliminal script has a specific goal.
My advice to you would be to set it and forget it.
One day you will have an epiphany that the goal of the subliminal worked for you.
Also, what is your goal and which subliminal will help you achieve that goal??
It seems you are being drawn into opposite directions.
Oh ok thank you for the explaination.
My one and only goal is a subconscious mind (ego) that stops resisting in form of attacking my previous subliminal results.
A subconscious mind that doesnt "punish" me for listening to life changing subliminals would be nice... for the beginning
A subconscious mind that doesnt see subliminals as a threat and is open for changes... those are my goals..
It sounds to me like OF is the perfect choice. And I am still puzzled by your mind reverting the previous subs and punishing you for it. It bet it’s either something weird in the script or some big resistance/fear (which is why I think OF is the best option for you now.)
(10-01-2020, 10:10 AM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 07:21 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 06:30 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2020, 02:11 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: [ -> ]Btw can someone explain me why we cant listen to another subliminal additional? For example OF 5.75 and am6. Isnt the mind powerful enough for that? Isnt the fear removal with alpha male the perfect combination? What will happen if we do? I am just curious.
You will get a painful headache.
You will be exhausted and sleep for hours or days.
You will be lethargic.
Imagine going to a concert. Instead of hearing one band at a time. Pretend every band was allowed to play at the same time. You wouldn't be able to comprehend one song from the other and end up leaving the concert.
Each subliminal script has a specific goal.
My advice to you would be to set it and forget it.
One day you will have an epiphany that the goal of the subliminal worked for you.
Also, what is your goal and which subliminal will help you achieve that goal??
It seems you are being drawn into opposite directions.
Oh ok thank you for the explaination.
My one and only goal is a subconscious mind (ego) that stops resisting in form of attacking my previous subliminal results.
A subconscious mind that doesnt "punish" me for listening to life changing subliminals would be nice... for the beginning
A subconscious mind that doesnt see subliminals as a threat and is open for changes... those are my goals..
It sounds to me like OF is the perfect choice. And I am still puzzled by your mind reverting the previous subs and punishing you for it. It bet it’s either something weird in the script or some big resistance/fear (which is why I think OF is the best option for you now.)
Yes i hope so too. Yes i know it sounds weird and i understand totally that its unbelievable for others but i swear its exactly like i describe it and its 100 percent inside me. My subconscious mind or ego.
Btw besides my sideeffects i hope i will see new changes regarding OF 5.75. I feel like i reached a plateau. I mean i am no longer procastionating, i improved the relationships with myself and my family, i removed unhealthy relationships with friends, i lost the need to run after someone and focus on myself, i am no longer fearful but still i feel very irritaded these days and i dont know why and i have thoughts like "you dont make any progress its a waste of time". Its very challenging like everything inside me wants me to stop this program
Whats new is that i have a lot headaches these days and im very irritaded. Its funny because when i take pills for those strong headaches they just dont work
A few things here.
My subliminals are not like other subliminals. They are designed to be the most powerful you can get, and while I am increasing the power all the time, they have been designed since 5G/2011 to be used by themselves, not mixed together. The best way to actually achieve the goal is to focus on it until you achieve it. Imagine trying to drive to two or more different places at the same time, with each one being hundreds of miles apart.
At best, you will dilute the results and delay them. At worst, you'll just cause yourself to become confused, get headaches and become exhausted. The "At best" scenario generally stopped at 4G, and the worst case scenario is what you get trying to run 2+ programs at once that are 5.5G or 5.75G. They are each already highly and precisely tuned to use ALL of your mind's resources and ALL of your brain's resources. So if each one is at levels of power that nobody else in the world can achieve with subliminals, and each one is attempting to use ALL of your mental resources, what happens when you play 2+ at once? They overload your mind (the input exceeds even your subconscious ability to decode it), making you get a headache trying so hard, while you become exhausted and get no benefits because neither one is understood. Use them one at a time.
Quote:Btw besides my sideeffects i hope i will see new changes regarding OF 5.75. I feel like i reached a plateau. I mean i am no longer procastionating, i improved the relationships with myself and my family, i removed unhealthy relationships with friends, i lost the need to run after someone and focus on myself, i am no longer fearful but still i feel very irritaded these days and i dont know why and i have thoughts like "you dont make any progress its a waste of time". Its very challenging like everything inside me wants me to stop this program
You have not reached a plateau. You have achieved success to a degree that causes the fearful part of you to fight harder and in different ways. It is trying to do anything it can to get you to stop, because it knows that if you don't, it will lose and you will be free of your fears. That is why you have started getting headaches that painkillers don't work on: they are caused by that part of your subconscious self attempting to punish you for running the program, in a desperate effort to get you to stop using it.
That means that part of you has it's back against the wall. From its point of view, if this OF program succeeds, you (it) will literally die. That's why it fights you. That's why it tries to stop you. That's why it tries to punish you. But it won't die, and neither will you. All that will happen when OF wins is that it will change in ways that do not allow for fear. And then you will be free.
Don't stop running OF 5.75G, no matter what it tries to do to get you to stop.
(10-02-2020, 06:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]A few things here.
My subliminals are not like other subliminals. They are designed to be the most powerful you can get, and while I am increasing the power all the time, they have been designed since 5G/2011 to be used by themselves, not mixed together. The best way to actually achieve the goal is to focus on it until you achieve it. Imagine trying to drive to two or more different places at the same time, with each one being hundreds of miles apart.
At best, you will dilute the results and delay them. At worst, you'll just cause yourself to become confused, get headaches and become exhausted. The "At best" scenario generally stopped at 4G, and the worst case scenario is what you get trying to run 2+ programs at once that are 5.5G or 5.75G. They are each already highly and precisely tuned to use ALL of your mind's resources and ALL of your brain's resources. So if each one is at levels of power that nobody else in the world can achieve with subliminals, and each one is attempting to use ALL of your mental resources, what happens when you play 2+ at once? They overload your mind (the input exceeds even your subconscious ability to decode it), making you get a headache trying so hard, while you become exhausted and get no benefits because neither one is understood. Use them one at a time.
Quote:Btw besides my sideeffects i hope i will see new changes regarding OF 5.75. I feel like i reached a plateau. I mean i am no longer procastionating, i improved the relationships with myself and my family, i removed unhealthy relationships with friends, i lost the need to run after someone and focus on myself, i am no longer fearful but still i feel very irritaded these days and i dont know why and i have thoughts like "you dont make any progress its a waste of time". Its very challenging like everything inside me wants me to stop this program
You have not reached a plateau. You have achieved success to a degree that causes the fearful part of you to fight harder and in different ways. It is trying to do anything it can to get you to stop, because it knows that if you don't, it will lose and you will be free of your fears. That is why you have started getting headaches that painkillers don't work on: they are caused by that part of your subconscious self attempting to punish you for running the program, in a desperate effort to get you to stop using it.
That means that part of you has it's back against the wall. From its point of view, if this OF program succeeds, you (it) will literally die. That's why it fights you. That's why it tries to stop you. That's why it tries to punish you. But it won't die, and neither will you. All that will happen when OF wins is that it will change in ways that do not allow for fear. And then you will be free.
Don't stop running OF 5.75G, no matter what it tries to do to get you to stop.
Thank you. Without these reminders i wouldnt spot it on my own.
I didnt realize that i even searched for "reasons" to stop the program. I even thought about switching to another program.
I thought its my own thoughts and was not conscious of it that my subconscious or ego tries everything to make it stop. Very creepy how subtle and clever it can be
It's amazing how sneaky and manipulative it can be. Have you read the thread about types of resistance and how to spot them in the forum FAQ section?
(10-03-2020, 04:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It's amazing how sneaky and manipulative it can be. Have you read the thread about types of resistance and how to spot them in the forum FAQ section?
Yes but unfortunatly not all points.
I always thought we just have to listen to the subliminal but now ii am sure thats not all.. we have to be aware of our inner conversations too and spot the mind games..
Good that there are such threads like resistance types to look up.