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@Shannon

What exactly does the subconscious consider / use to define ‘perfect’ FWB or Lover, etc. when a complete virgin is using AYP?

If the subconscious doesn’t use porn for defining ‘perfect’, what DOES it use for defining ‘perfect’?

Since the program is based / focused on sex, then how does the subconscious of a virgin know what’s ‘perfect’ in terms of sex / a sexual FWB?


I thought that porn (for those who have watched lots of porn) would have been a major part of defining ‘perfect’ for virgins using AYP, since porn is where most virgins get their experiences of sex / sexuality.

My sexuality is based on the porn I’ve watched, and my preferences in what I find ‘hot’ comes from porn. So it seems very surprising that my subconscious would not use porn for defining ‘perfect’. So what would my subconscious likely use to define ‘perfect’ FWB then?


Thanks
(02-07-2019, 09:37 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 07:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The subconscious does not use porn as a measure of what is perfect for you. It knows that what is perfect for you is your compliment in the direction you are looking. The compliment is what completes you.

Could you explain a little more what that means? Sorry if I'm a little slow and not getting it. Although I think I'm sort of getting it, I'm not sure. Could you explain it a little more?

When you ask for something that is perfect for you, you are asking for that which completes the part that you provide. It is the compliment to you, and it results in a whole.

When you ask for a perfect friend with benefits, your perfect friend with benefits will be perfect for you. There is no maybe, sometimes, partially. In the direction of what you are asking for, they will be exactly what you want and need to have. They will be perfect for you. They will provide what you do not to create a balanced equation and make a whole from the parts.

People get hung up on "Oh, but perfect isn't possible, it isn't reasonable, it isn't realistic. He must mean close to perfect." No. Perfect is possible, is reasonable, is realistic, as long as you make it happen in the right way. Perfect is considered so far out there because it is so unlikely to be encountered randomly, but we aren't working with random in a manifestation. We are asking for X and then making the right actions happen behind the scenes for X to come about.

It's pretty black and white. If it's not a perfect response that fulfills the desired and requested goal, then it's not a manifestation if the requested and desired goal specifies that the result must be perfect.

And the perfect response will be the puzzle piece that fills the hole (request) exactly (perfectly) for whatever was requested.
(02-07-2019, 02:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:37 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 07:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The subconscious does not use porn as a measure of what is perfect for you. It knows that what is perfect for you is your compliment in the direction you are looking. The compliment is what completes you.

Could you explain a little more what that means? Sorry if I'm a little slow and not getting it. Although I think I'm sort of getting it, I'm not sure. Could you explain it a little more?

When you ask for something that is perfect for you, you are asking for that which completes the part that you provide. It is the compliment to you, and it results in a whole.

When you ask for a perfect friend with benefits, your perfect friend with benefits will be perfect for you. There is no maybe, sometimes, partially. In the direction of what you are asking for, they will be exactly what you want and need to have. They will be perfect for you. They will provide what you do not to create a balanced equation and make a whole from the parts.

People get hung up on "Oh, but perfect isn't possible, it isn't reasonable, it isn't realistic. He must mean close to perfect." No. Perfect is possible, is reasonable, is realistic, as long as you make it happen in the right way. Perfect is considered so far out there because it is so unlikely to be encountered randomly, but we aren't working with random in a manifestation. We are asking for X and then making the right actions happen behind the scenes for X to come about.

It's pretty black and white. If it's not a perfect response that fulfills the desired and requested goal, then it's not a manifestation if the requested and desired goal specifies that the result must be perfect.

And the perfect response will be the puzzle piece that fills the hole (request) exactly (perfectly) for whatever was requested.

And I don't need to know what the perfect FWB is for me in order to get it, right?
(02-07-2019, 11:52 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]What's an echo manifestation?

An echo manifestation is what happens when you manifest more than one of what you're asking for. When I used AYPL, I attracted not one, but two women. One was an echo manifestation. The primary will be the one who is most closely fitting your desires and logistics outside of what you asked for; the secondary, tertiary, etc. will be progressively less good options outside of the manifestation key, but all of them will be equally good for the key itself.

So for example, when I used Attract Your Perfect Lover, I manifested not one, but two women. Both were exact solutions to the key specified. But one of them lived 20 minutes away, and one had to spend 4 hours on a flight to get to me. The echo was the one who was further away, because she also fulfilled the key, but was less good a choice for other reasons.
(02-07-2019, 02:31 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

What exactly does the subconscious consider / use to define ‘perfect’ FWB or Lover, etc. when a complete virgin is using AYP?

If the subconscious doesn’t use porn for defining ‘perfect’, what DOES it use for defining ‘perfect’?

Since the program is based / focused on sex, then how does the subconscious of a virgin know what’s ‘perfect’ in terms of sex / a sexual FWB?


I thought that porn (for those who have watched lots of porn) would have been a major part of defining ‘perfect’ for virgins using AYP, since porn is where most virgins get their experiences of sex / sexuality.

My sexuality is based on the porn I’ve watched, and my preferences in what I find ‘hot’ comes from porn. So it seems very surprising that my subconscious would not use porn for defining ‘perfect’. So what would my subconscious likely use to define ‘perfect’ FWB then?


Thanks

The way I see it, your porn preferences COME FROM your subconscious, so using porn probably isn't necessary to determining your perfect partner.

That's what I feel is likely true anyway.
(02-07-2019, 02:39 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 02:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 09:37 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 07:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The subconscious does not use porn as a measure of what is perfect for you. It knows that what is perfect for you is your compliment in the direction you are looking. The compliment is what completes you.

Could you explain a little more what that means? Sorry if I'm a little slow and not getting it. Although I think I'm sort of getting it, I'm not sure. Could you explain it a little more?

When you ask for something that is perfect for you, you are asking for that which completes the part that you provide. It is the compliment to you, and it results in a whole.

When you ask for a perfect friend with benefits, your perfect friend with benefits will be perfect for you. There is no maybe, sometimes, partially. In the direction of what you are asking for, they will be exactly what you want and need to have. They will be perfect for you. They will provide what you do not to create a balanced equation and make a whole from the parts.

People get hung up on "Oh, but perfect isn't possible, it isn't reasonable, it isn't realistic. He must mean close to perfect." No. Perfect is possible, is reasonable, is realistic, as long as you make it happen in the right way. Perfect is considered so far out there because it is so unlikely to be encountered randomly, but we aren't working with random in a manifestation. We are asking for X and then making the right actions happen behind the scenes for X to come about.

It's pretty black and white. If it's not a perfect response that fulfills the desired and requested goal, then it's not a manifestation if the requested and desired goal specifies that the result must be perfect.

And the perfect response will be the puzzle piece that fills the hole (request) exactly (perfectly) for whatever was requested.

And I don't need to know what the perfect FWB is for me in order to get it, right?

You don't need to know consciously. You already automatically know, subconsciously.

I can assure you that at first I was really afraid to try to use the "perfect lover" as the goal phrasing, because I wanted to consciously control the process. But I needed to use that phrasing because every time I tried to consciously specify the goals, I left something out. The reason for using that phrasing, "perfect", is so that the subconscious can take control and do it for you, better than your conscious mind could ever hope to.
(02-07-2019, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 11:52 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]What's an echo manifestation?

An echo manifestation is what happens when you manifest more than one of what you're asking for. When I used AYPL, I attracted not one, but two women. One was an echo manifestation. The primary will be the one who is most closely fitting your desires and logistics outside of what you asked for; the secondary, tertiary, etc. will be progressively less good options outside of the manifestation key, but all of them will be equally good for the key itself.

So for example, when I used Attract Your Perfect Lover, I manifested not one, but two women. Both were exact solutions to the key specified. But one of them lived 20 minutes away, and one had to spend 4 hours on a flight to get to me. The echo was the one who was further away, because she also fulfilled the key, but was less good a choice for other reasons.


That's awesome! I hope I get an echo manifestation when I use an AYP sub!
(02-07-2019, 02:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You don't need to know consciously. You already automatically know, subconsciously.

I can assure you that at first I was really afraid to try to use the "perfect lover" as the goal phrasing, because I wanted to consciously control the process. But I needed to use that phrasing because every time I tried to consciously specify the goals, I left something out. The reason for using that phrasing, "perfect", is so that the subconscious can take control and do it for you, better than your conscious mind could ever hope to.

Cool! So all you really need for the manifestation to work perfectly is faith and patience then, it seems. I might get AYPFWB as soon as the 32 day period for my HWME and OVPR combo is up!
Masterenki, with risk of offending I can see perfectly why AYP isn't working for you.

Your posts show that you're extremely 'pedantic' about everything, and I see some of the most strange thought patterns and questions, even rivalling Sarge which I didn't think was possible.

To me it shows that quite alot of emotional healing and maturity type programming is needed, also self esteem and such.

AYP is not the program you need, though Shannon has said that a million times. The kind of woman you might attract with that other stuff going on isn't going to be as high quality as she could.

Something like E3 when it comes out, or LTU to work on that stuff would be much better.. seriously not even trying to focus on women for a good amount of time.
(02-07-2019, 02:44 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 02:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 11:52 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]What's an echo manifestation?

An echo manifestation is what happens when you manifest more than one of what you're asking for. When I used AYPL, I attracted not one, but two women. One was an echo manifestation. The primary will be the one who is most closely fitting your desires and logistics outside of what you asked for; the secondary, tertiary, etc. will be progressively less good options outside of the manifestation key, but all of them will be equally good for the key itself.

So for example, when I used Attract Your Perfect Lover, I manifested not one, but two women. Both were exact solutions to the key specified. But one of them lived 20 minutes away, and one had to spend 4 hours on a flight to get to me. The echo was the one who was further away, because she also fulfilled the key, but was less good a choice for other reasons.


That's awesome! I hope I get an echo manifestation when I use an AYP sub!

No, you don't. It just complicates matters. Echoes are very unusual anyway, which is why you didn't know what they were. They are rare at best.
(02-07-2019, 02:49 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 02:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You don't need to know consciously. You already automatically know, subconsciously.

I can assure you that at first I was really afraid to try to use the "perfect lover" as the goal phrasing, because I wanted to consciously control the process. But I needed to use that phrasing because every time I tried to consciously specify the goals, I left something out. The reason for using that phrasing, "perfect", is so that the subconscious can take control and do it for you, better than your conscious mind could ever hope to.

Cool! So all you really need for the manifestation to work perfectly is faith and patience then, it seems. I might get AYPFWB as soon as the 32 day period for my HWME and OVPR combo is up!

No, what you need to do is turn it on, set it and forget it. It doesn't need faith, or patience. It needs you to set it and forget it. Patience is only required if you haven't forgotten it; faith is only required if you have no evidence that it has worked or can work.

It works, but only if you set it and forget it.
(02-07-2019, 03:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 02:49 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2019, 02:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You don't need to know consciously. You already automatically know, subconsciously.

I can assure you that at first I was really afraid to try to use the "perfect lover" as the goal phrasing, because I wanted to consciously control the process. But I needed to use that phrasing because every time I tried to consciously specify the goals, I left something out. The reason for using that phrasing, "perfect", is so that the subconscious can take control and do it for you, better than your conscious mind could ever hope to.

Cool! So all you really need for the manifestation to work perfectly is faith and patience then, it seems. I might get AYPFWB as soon as the 32 day period for my HWME and OVPR combo is up!

No, what you need to do is turn it on, set it and forget it. It doesn't need faith, or patience. It needs you to set it and forget it. Patience is only required if you haven't forgotten it; faith is only required if you have no evidence that it has worked or can work.

It works, but only if you set it and forget it.

Okay I getcha. Maybe what I'll do is get it once I've got a job and stuff to do in my day so I have other shit to think about. And for right now, I'll use HWME and OVPR so I start doing stuff in my day other than sitting around watching YT videos.
Let me ask you something...

I am also thinking of AYPRL but I want to travel once I get my Bachelor's degree and teach English abroad, and that sounds like it'd get in the way of a serious committed relationship. Do you think the FWB sub is the right sub to use instead? (You know, until I'm done travelling)

EDIT: Never mind. Just made another thread on the subject.
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