The best way to listen to two 4g subs?

[terry44]

I'm wondering if anyone has tried different ways to do this. Would playing them one after the other on a loop be better than 8 hours of one followed by 8 hours of the other? I'm thinking of playing them one after the other on a loop because they will be guaranteed to get fairly equal coverage even if work or other things interfere with my listening.

[jonathan4all]

I'm wondering if anyone has tried different ways to do this. Would playing them one after the other on a loop be better than 8 hours of one followed by 8 hours of the other? I'm thinking of playing them one after the other on a loop because they will be guaranteed to get fairly equal coverage even if work or other things interfere with my listening.

As far as I remembered, Shannon recommends it 8 (sub a) +1hour break at least+8hour (sub b). But , there is another factor also to consider . Suppose, if I want to use MLS with identical goal like Grade Habit or Learning Language Sub I believe it has less problem. But, if I run a sub like MLS with AOS (which is completely contradictory to each other) above step works better. However, instead of not listening due to differentiate time , it's , at least, better to listen one after another. It's just a hypothetical statement (of course I did not make those subs !! ) Hope it helps.

[terry44]

Thanks, I think they dovetail quiet nicely: US + PTPA. So will try it both ways and see what works best.

[JackOfHearts]

Shannon always said to use one sub for a certain amount of time (~8hours) and then the other.
You don't need to try both ways, the best is this one. Don't switch 1 hour US and 1 hour MLS for example.

As you are new here I would suggest you stick to only one sub for now, it would be best for you.
Do 1 month US then 1 month PTPA. Then use both together when you are used to them.

[terry44]

Shannon does say they make a good combination though. This is part of his description of PTPA: "Wonderful when used in combination with Ultra Success 4G". I think they reinforce each other.

[JackOfHearts]

Yeah you can do it. The best way to use sub is one at a time though. If you are a beginner I think you should stick to the basics. I think I got a better idea, you use one sub for 1 month US and then you use both. That way it would be faster and you'll be used to the first sub for 1 month.

If you are really too excited then you start with both.
How much time to you plan on using these sub?
Keep in mind that the recommend time for a single sub is 3 month, so for 2 sub it's 6 month. The minimum is 2 month for 2 sub. Are you going to do 6 month with this 2 sub?

[terry44]

Yeah you can do it. The best way to use sub is one at a time though. If you are a beginner I think you should stick to the basics. I think I got a better idea, you use one sub for 1 month US and then you use both. That way it would be faster and you'll be used to the first sub for 1 month.

If you are really too excited then you start with both.
How much time to you plan on using these sub?
Keep in mind that the recommend time for a single sub is 3 month, so for 2 sub it's 6 month. The minimum is 2 month for 2 sub. Are you going to do 6 month with this 2 sub?

It's not impatience or excitement, it's because I will be too busy to use subs properly in 6 weeks time. I did ASC for 50 days and that was tiring and quite difficult fitting in with my hard work schedule. I'll have even less time in 6 weeks, so I wanted to get the benefit of both.

[JackOfHearts]

So if I understand correctly you are going to use this 2 sub for 6 weeks only?
You don't match for the minimum recommended by Shannon that way.
If you are going to use sub for only 6 weeks it's very very advisable to use only one sub.

update: I read somewhere that if you have a lot of fear, guilt or shame you won't benefit very much from US, EPHPRA would be recommended in this case.

[terry44]

So if I understand correctly you are going to use this 2 sub for 6 weeks only?
You don't match for the minimum recommended by Shannon that way.
If you are going to use sub for only 6 weeks it's very very advisable to use only one sub.

Didn't he say the minimum was 32 days? I thought this was especially so for PTPA. But as some people can get the effects of US in a few weeks while others take a few months, I'd at least like to try. I might get lucky. I will be able to give more time to subs in the summer, but I need as much of the effect as possible now, as the spring will be expensive in time, energy and money!

[JackOfHearts]

The result will not stick in this short amount of time.
32 days for 1 sub not for 2. For 3 sub it would be 32 *3.

[terry44]

The result will not stick in this short amount of time.
32 days for 1 sub not for 2. For 3 sub it would be 32 *3.

I will resume them in the summer and might be able to continue for a few hours per day even in the spring. I'm not trying to get long term results just from the 6 weeks, I'm hopefully going to get them when I'm more settled and have more time to devote to them later. I know it's not ideal, I'm trying to make the best of a bad situation. I wish I had the luxury of having more time and less stress.

BTW, for US, a type D sub Shannon says:

Typically, these programs require 2 to 6 months of daily use for six or more hours per day to produce the intended results, and may require as much as 9 to 12 months, depending on specific circumstances beyond the control of the subliminal. Conversely, you may get results in as little as 20 days in some cases for the same reason.

[JackOfHearts]

Yeah if you are lucky

[terry44]

Yeah if you are lucky

Well if I don't try, I definitely won't be lucky!

[terry44]

I think I'll try to do 6 to 8 hours of US at night and at least 6 hours of PTPA during the day. If I need to sacrifice time it will be from PTPA that way.

I'll start Monday.