Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Dutchman610]

So when will we be able to download version A? I'm abit confused now. Please answer with an estimated time for example "10 hours from now"

Thank you

When I release it. Have not decided whether to release A and then B, or both at once.

which version has the healing in it? I can't find the original thread or post that says which version is which.

Short story version A has all the healing hence why, most people want it released before version B(non-healing) is finished.

[chaosvrgn]

Personally, I don't see myself ever doing the non-healing version again.

[CatMan]

Wait...I don't understand what's going on now again.

You said you were done Version A, the redo after the script error, and uploading again. And it was uploading all day now, and should be done in a few hours from now actually and ready for release tonight. And you said that will be released before Version B to make up for all the delays which is decent and fair. Why is this being backtracked on and the program delayed yet again after the fact? The journal entry doesn't really specify exactly why.

I'll be honest, it's very hard to keep track of things and what is going on here, it's confusing and ever-changing. I do know it's extremely frustrating to be told it's to be released only to find out that's not the case over and over. Even more confusing when the program is there and done tonight on the server soon, we were told we would get it, now apparently for ??? that is no longer the case again and things change yet again.

I don't mean to sound combative, but this is getting irritating now. I don't see the hardship in simply downloading the program we all paid for when it's on the server, just like any other normal program. How many legal cover my ass disclaimers do you want? There's already at least one on the sales page for it, stating in plain English in obvious clear as day bold print, use of it completely absolves IML of anything blah blah blah lawyer lawyer lawyer, so enough is enough, yet another disclaimer of the exact same thing is completely redundant. You've already got it covered right there on the sales page clear as day. I mean come on, let's just get this moving finally.

[robstar]

Hi Shannon,

I see V3.0.1-A is uploading? Wonderful, we will have it soon, very exciting.

I'm thinking of getting Stop Smoking for a friend who needs to quit and wants to badly. But, I had to ask, I remember you saying that program needs to be rebuild and you seemed to be unsatisfied with it. Is that accurate? Is it working well or are you feeling it needs work still?

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

O
I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a ***** term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

Do you not think a "Be addiction free" sub would be possible in 6G rather than multiple different subs?

[Duke.Togo]

Catman, breathe easy brother. Shannon has his reasons for delaying the release. He's already tackled a few setbacks this week. Whether we get it tonight, tomorrow, or this weekend, it'll come.

A day or two late for us, can't compare to the work he lost earlier this week because he was rushing to get this done. It'll come soon enough.

[Shannon]

Catman, please be patient. It won't be much longer. We're talking hours here, and even when I am done, Ben has to link it. I don't know when that will be, so just relax. The impatience and hurrying is probably part of how we got in this mess in the first place.

Unless Ben already linked it and I don't know it... but I'll be checking that in a little while when I start the upload of B.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

I see V3.0.1-A is uploading? Wonderful, we will have it soon, very exciting.

I'm thinking of getting Stop Smoking for a friend who needs to quit and wants to badly. But, I had to ask, I remember you saying that program needs to be rebuild and you seemed to be unsatisfied with it. Is that accurate? Is it working well or are you feeling it needs work still?

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

O
I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a ***** term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

Do you not think a "Be addiction free" sub would be possible in 6G rather than multiple different subs?

It's possible. We shall see. But since alcoholism isn't an addiction...

[robstar]

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

O
I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a ***** term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

Do you not think a "Be addiction free" sub would be possible in 6G rather than multiple different subs?

It's possible. We shall see. But since alcoholism isn't an addiction...

Maybe dependency is a better word.

[Benjamin]

Unless Ben already linked it and I don't know it... but I'll be checking that in a little while when I start the upload of B.

Nah I haven't done the links as you hadn't asked me to yet.

[wolverine_i_am]

Unless Ben already linked it and I don't know it... but I'll be checking that in a little while when I start the upload of B.

Nah I haven't done the links as you hadn't asked me to yet.

How long would the new agreement declaration thing take?

[Shannon]

Unless Ben already linked it and I don't know it... but I'll be checking that in a little while when I start the upload of B.

Nah I haven't done the links as you hadn't asked me to yet.

How long would the new agreement declaration thing take?

I don't know. have to finish what I am doing, begin upload, read existing legalese...

and now I have to perform a backup of the build files in case my system dies again. I was in the process of verifying the audio when it threw up some very odd errors and shut down. Thinking this may be the EOL for my SSD. Bought it in 2011 and have a 5 year warranty, and have worked this baby hard in the mean time.

But once backup is done, I'll keep working.

[Shannon]

Okay, so I'm uploading... but understandably too tired to read and verify the legalese in the product description. So, you'll just have to wait until I wake up.

CatMan, I understand why you're anxious, but I'd like you to know that without both E2 and MIR 2.1 running, I wouldn't even be able to work. It was about like losing a family member to lose the script of MIR 2.1, and then I started coming down with something. MIR 2.1 is keeping it at bay, but it's less energy to work.

So just be patient a little longer. We got this.

3.0.1-B is uploading. When I awaken I will begin working on the description page, which should not take me long to do, before release.

Off to bed.

[D77]

@Shannon:

Hi Bro, I hope your doing good. I have a few questions that I hope you can answer...

Since DSMI v3 has a feature that makes the user physically more attractive perception wise, is there a feature there that will effect the user physically? -like for example, if I body build I burn fat more plus build muscle fast since a more muscular man is more attractive to look at by the ladies, or some new growth or physical changes that will occur that aesthetically improve your appearance.. will these manifestation occur?

Also, can your models estimate the success rate if we combine both A & B? I know we discussed this before but you didn't say ..dismiss the possibility and I also wonder if your models can help with this. So anything is a possibility now.

Some user reported before that other manifestation begin to appear quite fast. Any explanation to this..

Thanks for all your work man..:-)

[LiquidMind]

lol at the impatience of getting DMSI from some users

It will be uploaded when its uploaded

In the meantime chill, go relax and kickback. Do something to take your mind of this forum and then boom it will be here before you know it.