Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon!

I noticed the unexpected post about 2.3. Excellent news!

You were going to build it yesterday, but pushed it back to today.

How are things coming along with that? I'm staying up late to download it asap. Very exciting news.

It was built yesterday. It is not finished being prepared for upload. I am also planning to test it personally before I release it. It will be at least a few more days before it's available for release. I have to encode, test, verify, package, re-verify, tag, calculate MD5 has values for and upload it still, and I have to adjust the links on the page and the description.

But it's coming.

In the mean time, take some time off to let the old program start fading in your mind, and be patient.

[bogdy]

Shannon, you told in your journal that some parts of the DMSI 2.2 script could lead to resistance. Does it affect the healing modules? I am asking because I want to try 2.3, but if I don't get results I would continue 2.2 which would continue the required healing.

No, it was just a situation where there was a statement that had been missed for update between 2.1 and 2.2 on the goal phrasing. The result was that the instruction set was not always pointing at the same goal, and this created a situation in which the subconscious was attempting to do two contradictory things at once. This was missed for the same reason I would not have released the script at all during July had I not made the promise I made, and that would not have made it past me if I had not. In the future, under such circumstances, I will not be releasing anything while I am under that set of circumstances, promises or not.

EDIT: for this reason, it is not advisable to run 2.2 if you want the healing effects. Either run E2, or I will build 2.4 with healing enabled.

Shannon , i made 2 post of where i needed you guidance when i had massive resistance.Your response was "keep going" . The healing modules from 2.2 helped me with women , but now you say dont run it .
E2 its good for healing but it does not heal that much on women , it made me needy , 2.2 cleared this.
I'm confused...

[Steven]

Shannon,

I want to give a thumbs up to @bogdy and inquire about that healing module. I think it has done me very good! But I didn't understand what you were describing about a contradiction in the script.

From my perspective, it did what it needed to do... heal things about sex, relationships, and women for me. My body feels so relaxed, it's like I just got a massage. Could you tell us more about the contradiction in the script?

[Shannon]

Shannon, you told in your journal that some parts of the DMSI 2.2 script could lead to resistance. Does it affect the healing modules? I am asking because I want to try 2.3, but if I don't get results I would continue 2.2 which would continue the required healing.

No, it was just a situation where there was a statement that had been missed for update between 2.1 and 2.2 on the goal phrasing. The result was that the instruction set was not always pointing at the same goal, and this created a situation in which the subconscious was attempting to do two contradictory things at once. This was missed for the same reason I would not have released the script at all during July had I not made the promise I made, and that would not have made it past me if I had not. In the future, under such circumstances, I will not be releasing anything while I am under that set of circumstances, promises or not.

EDIT: for this reason, it is not advisable to run 2.2 if you want the healing effects. Either run E2, or I will build 2.4 with healing enabled.

Shannon , i made 2 post of where i needed you guidance when i had massive resistance.Your response was "keep going" . The healing modules from 2.2 helped me with women , but now you say dont run it .
E2 its good for healing but it does not heal that much on women , it made me needy , 2.2 cleared this.
I'm confused...

E2 gets you to heal everything, not just issues with women. As a consequence, it may take more time, and you may have to deal with working through more things. E2 didn't make you needy, it directed you to clear an issue that causes neediness. Namely, something you felt insecure about. While you are working through something, it may be brought to the forefront.

DMSI 2.2 includes limited and focused healing, and it is focused on achieving the goals of the program specifically. If you responded with neediness on E2 and DMSI 2.2 cleared it, then we know one of two things are true:

Either you were responding with neediness based on something E2 was directing you to work on that DMSI 2.2 was not...

or DMSI 2.2 focused you on a specific issue and because it was so focused, it worked you through it faster than E2 would have and you finished working through it while using 2.2.

For you and Steven, there was a single statement in the script that used goal phrasing, but it did not get updated with the new goal phrasing from 2.2 and was still using the one from 2.1. This meant that there were effectively 2 goals, and one was 10 times more prevalent than the other. The way 5.5G is scripted, they both got powerful effort to make them happen, and they were not compatible with one another. This, combined with the potential for resistance based on what the 2.2 goal phrasing was itself, is what I believe led people to see so little results outside of the healing effects.

I have corrected both of those issues in 2.3, and if you want to continue using 2.2 for healing, that's fine for now (until I get 2.4 built, with healing enabled). Just don't expect that you're going to get the best possible results from it on the aura stuff.

[RTBoss]

Speaking of healing, I was thinking of drug and alcohol use as coping mechanisms for GSF. I wonder if alcohol or drug use could be used as an anchor for future subliminals to target specific fears for high priority status, to be dealt with first, due to their significance?

I do not follow you on this. It is grammatically confusing, or I am somehow not all here... please disambiguate.

Let's say a fear caused someone to drink or use drugs to cope. Would scripting to specifically eliminate fear causing destructive coping mechanisms be possible? E2 never brought up anything that made me want to hide in a glass. AOSI was correlated with me drinking more, and that behavior disappeared with 2.1 & 2.2. I wonder if the lack of healing scripting in 2.3 will bring the drinking back. Hopefully I dealt with those issues in the time I ran 2.1 & 2.2. I just wonder if it's "fear in general" or specifically deep-seated fears that are bringing out destructive behaviors.

[maxx55]

I know that E2 moves at the rate of the user, but is there a "minimum speed" of progression for E2? I remember that with E1 it seemed like most things were taken care of after 6 months (I didn't experience anymore resistance).

With E2, I feel like the speed is constantly shifting gears and directions. Like before one thing is fully taken care of, another one starts being addressed, and maybe the first one comes back around later. I still have minor bouts of resistance/emotional turmoil even now.

[bogdy]

Shannon, you told in your journal that some parts of the DMSI 2.2 script could lead to resistance. Does it affect the healing modules? I am asking because I want to try 2.3, but if I don't get results I would continue 2.2 which would continue the required healing.

No, it was just a situation where there was a statement that had been missed for update between 2.1 and 2.2 on the goal phrasing. The result was that the instruction set was not always pointing at the same goal, and this created a situation in which the subconscious was attempting to do two contradictory things at once. This was missed for the same reason I would not have released the script at all during July had I not made the promise I made, and that would not have made it past me if I had not. In the future, under such circumstances, I will not be releasing anything while I am under that set of circumstances, promises or not.

EDIT: for this reason, it is not advisable to run 2.2 if you want the healing effects. Either run E2, or I will build 2.4 with healing enabled.

Shannon , i made 2 post of where i needed you guidance when i had massive resistance.Your response was "keep going" . The healing modules from 2.2 helped me with women , but now you say dont run it .
E2 its good for healing but it does not heal that much on women , it made me needy , 2.2 cleared this.
I'm confused...

E2 gets you to heal everything, not just issues with women. As a consequence, it may take more time, and you may have to deal with working through more things. E2 didn't make you needy, it directed you to clear an issue that causes neediness. Namely, something you felt insecure about. While you are working through something, it may be brought to the forefront.

DMSI 2.2 includes limited and focused healing, and it is focused on achieving the goals of the program specifically. If you responded with neediness on E2 and DMSI 2.2 cleared it, then we know one of two things are true:

Either you were responding with neediness based on something E2 was directing you to work on that DMSI 2.2 was not...

or DMSI 2.2 focused you on a specific issue and because it was so focused, it worked you through it faster than E2 would have and you finished working through it while using 2.2.

For you and Steven, there was a single statement in the script that used goal phrasing, but it did not get updated with the new goal phrasing from 2.2 and was still using the one from 2.1. This meant that there were effectively 2 goals, and one was 10 times more prevalent than the other. The way 5.5G is scripted, they both got powerful effort to make them happen, and they were not compatible with one another. This, combined with the potential for resistance based on what the 2.2 goal phrasing was itself, is what I believe led people to see so little results outside of the healing effects.

I have corrected both of those issues in 2.3, and if you want to continue using 2.2 for healing, that's fine for now (until I get 2.4 built, with healing enabled). Just don't expect that you're going to get the best possible results from it on the aura stuff.

So shannon , you inted to make a 2.3 version with aggressive aura projecting , and a 2.4 that is basically 2.3 + healing modules but a tad less powar?

[Shannon]

Speaking of healing, I was thinking of drug and alcohol use as coping mechanisms for GSF. I wonder if alcohol or drug use could be used as an anchor for future subliminals to target specific fears for high priority status, to be dealt with first, due to their significance?

I do not follow you on this. It is grammatically confusing, or I am somehow not all here... please disambiguate.

Let's say a fear caused someone to drink or use drugs to cope. Would scripting to specifically eliminate fear causing destructive coping mechanisms be possible? E2 never brought up anything that made me want to hide in a glass. AOSI was correlated with me drinking more, and that behavior disappeared with 2.1 & 2.2. I wonder if the lack of healing scripting in 2.3 will bring the drinking back. Hopefully I dealt with those issues in the time I ran 2.1 & 2.2. I just wonder if it's "fear in general" or specifically deep-seated fears that are bringing out destructive behaviors.

Well the scripting to eliminate fear has no impact on the destructive coping mechanisms directly. It affects them as a side effect; either potentially triggering them as some fear or fears is/are worked through, or eliminating them as they are either worked through or overcome.

It depends on how many fears are being worked on and what the specific triggers etc. are.

If you notice those behaviors coming back, then we'll have to introduce 2.4. I suspect, however, that you may find that there are no such fears left to need coping with.

[Shannon]

I know that E2 moves at the rate of the user, but is there a "minimum speed" of progression for E2? I remember that with E1 it seemed like most things were taken care of after 6 months (I didn't experience anymore resistance).

With E2, I feel like the speed is constantly shifting gears and directions. Like before one thing is fully taken care of, another one starts being addressed, and maybe the first one comes back around later. I still have minor bouts of resistance/emotional turmoil even now.

E1 was based on boot camp. Forward MARCH! We are going at maximum speed, and that is all, private! You WILL comply!

E2 is based on making the task at hand get done with a much different approach based on the ideal speed for you. There is no minimum speed, but you do have to do something to move forward. This approach takes longer, but has a higher success rate and a higher rate of overall success with all issues being dealt with. V1 was effective for some people, on some things.

[Frosted]

Shannon, with subliminals involved, do you find that growth happens best when you're in stressful/uncomfortable situations. Or do you think that being in a comfortable environment is better so that your newfound alpha behaviors have room to grow before they get shut down by old patterns in stressful situations?

I've spent almost a year working in a place where I've felt a lot of insecurity. I've learned to cope with it a lot better through subs. But am I growing more because of this stress or am I hindering progress because I'm just reinforcing old patterns in my interactions and with the stress and negative emotions coming up. Next month I will be going to college and most likely not working at all so will be in a nice comfy situation with a lot less stress.

I ask this question because I once read something about how confidence is easier to grow when you are in situations that are supportive to confidence.

But then there's the "push through and learn to deal with it. You grow by facing hardship.".

Subliminals are kind of confusing when trying to put into context traditional self help advice.

What is your take Shannon?

P.S sorry if I'm not coherent or that my questions weren't asked in a way that explains what I'm trying to explain, I'm just so tired right now and ready to go to bed.

[Shannon]

Shannon, with subliminals involved, do you find that growth happens best when you're in stressful/uncomfortable situations. Or do you think that being in a comfortable environment is better so that your newfound alpha behaviors have room to grow before they get shut down by old patterns in stressful situations?

I've spent almost a year working in a place where I've felt a lot of insecurity. I've learned to cope with it a lot better through subs. But am I growing more because of this stress or am I hindering progress because I'm just reinforcing old patterns in my interactions and with the stress and negative emotions coming up. Next month I will be going to college and most likely not working at all so will be in a nice comfy situation with a lot less stress.

I ask this question because I once read something about how confidence is easier to grow when you are in situations that are supportive to confidence.

But then there's the "push through and learn to deal with it. You grow by facing hardship.".

Subliminals are kind of confusing when trying to put into context traditional self help advice.

What is your take Shannon?

P.S sorry if I'm not coherent or that my questions weren't asked in a way that explains what I'm trying to explain, I'm just so tired right now and ready to go to bed.

My take is... follow the neural pathways. Whatever gets the most usage in the brain is what will be the strongest neural pathway. If you're using X and trying to do so while experiencing Y and Y contradicts with X and its already ingrained, you either have to really up the dose of X or eliminate Y.

I recommend making the new programming rock solid before challenging it with stress etc. if possible.

[wolverine_i_am]

When are you gonna start testing v2.3 on yourself, Shannon?

[Benjamin]

E2 is based on making the task at hand get done with a much different approach based on the ideal speed for you. There is no minimum speed, but you do have to do something to move forward. This approach takes longer, but has a higher success rate and a higher rate of overall success with all issues being dealt with. V1 was effective for some people, on some things.

What do you mean by you have to do something to move forward? As in E2 always having something to work on, or you have to do something consciously while on E2 to move forward? Just a little confused at that part.

[Shannon]

When are you gonna start testing v2.3 on yourself, Shannon?

Not sure yet. Got some things to take care of first. Probably the 14th.