Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Darkness]

I'm also not a fan of AOS+BIABWS 5.5G being "gender neutral" since that might dilute its efficacy over something more direct.

Yeah, because you aren't smart enough to know the difference, right? lol

Let's see how hard this really is.

Gender specific version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful women.

Gender neutral version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to.

They mean and say exactly the same thing, except that doing a gender specific version takes 2-3 times more time. Gender neutral works for any gender and any sexual preference in just one program.

Oh ye of little faith. Or in this case, common sense. When are you guys going to figure out that yes, I actually do know what I'm doing?

My concern isn't over your knowledge or skill set, it's about processing. I know that you insist the subconscious mind can process a much larger and denser amount of data than the conscious mind can, and I know that consciously "beautiful women" can be equivalent to "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," but "women" is objectively simpler to understand (i.e. takes less energy and effort to process successfully) than "people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," takes less time to input which allows the space that would have been occupied by the longer statement to be instead occupied with other script, and there's less likelihood of the qualifiers after "people" being ignored or downplayed by a potentially lazy subconscious.

Also, with another processing analogy, "beautiful women" may result in one set of neural pathways firing to associate the prompt with the mind's recollection of beautiful women, while "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to" may take more time and/or effort to process because it may process in parts, drilling down like the more general "beautiful people" first then having to expend effort (however significant or insignificant) to filter to those "of the gender I am sexually attracted to," potentially processing that in parts like "of the gender I am" (which is male in this example) then having to process "sexually attracted to" and expend more effort linking the two clauses together to make the proper filter.

I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, Shannon, I'm simply looking to present an alternative argument for simpler, more overt and obvious wording based on the fact that it's not quite conclusive how the subconscious definitively and undisputedly processes data, though you without question seem to have come the closest of anyone I've encountered so far to finding out that answer. Also, I would think the trade off of writing a shorter script that would only need a Find & Replace All to change "women" to "men" would be more beneficial than writing a longer script that is gender neutral.

I agree

Is there a way to make the new AOS just focus on the goal of sexiness. With the Biatbw for all genders to use it, have the suggestion be : becoming irresistibly attractive sexually . Nothing else please.

Let's say that you are a heterosexual male, and we give you a program that generates an aura focused on becoming irresistibly attractive sexually".

This is relatively specific, but it allows for situations like:

* You attract gay men.
* You attract bisexual men.

This leads to a lot of unwanted and uncomfortable attention and we have already seen this happen in the past, which is why I specified "beautiful women" in the past, and will not leave the script ambiguous enough to achieve the same result, either way in the next version.

Shannon that already happened to me on SM, I can just say no. It's aura of sexiness, people respond to sex vibes , it happens . I was even called gay it's annoying, it comes with the territory.

[Benjamin]

That's a good point about processing, that's not something I thought of.

For me it's more thinking about this 'gender neutral' thing going on in society and how trying to be 'all inclusive' isn't best for either. Women who want to attract men, or especially men who want to attract men is a completely different energy and not something I want the danger of taking on the wrong kind of energy because something is gender neutral. The mind having to sort through all these different kinds of energies to find the right one does sound like more to take in too, similar to the processing point.

It also makes me think of these 'gender fluid' people who are confused and have so many issues that they think they can randomly identify as another gender when they choose to.

Maybe it's just me attributing the word 'gender neutral' to this kind of stuff happening in society that really isn't healthy.

Though I know you have alot of similar views as me Shannon so i'm pretty sure that isn't what you mean. But that is what the word gender neutral makes me think of.

I guess to sum it up, the statement 'gender neutral' makes me think of an androdonous type person who you can't tell is either gender and who is weak and has no presence, is confused and doesn't know up from down.

On the other hand if I think of being a 'sexually attractive man' (to women) then I think of a man who is strong, masculine, confident etc..

Let's say that you are a heterosexual male, and we give you a program that generates an aura focused on becoming irresistibly attractive sexually".

This is relatively specific, but it allows for situations like:

* You attract gay men.
* You attract bisexual men.

This leads to a lot of unwanted and uncomfortable attention and we have already seen this happen in the past, which is why I specified "beautiful women" in the past, and will not leave the script ambiguous enough to achieve the same result, either way in the next version.

Well that makes me feel a little better, because I don't want that at all. I've had a couple of isolated situations in clubs where guys thought they could come up and fully try to grab me on the dick or on the ass and were shocked when I grabbed them around the throat. I can see some people labelling that a 'hate crime' or something but the reality is if I did the same to a girl and she grabbed me around the throat she would be cheered on for it. So i'd prefer my energy to not attract anything like that at all. Which actually it doesn't anymore usually. There was that old man who asked me to coffee at his house down the river and I had no physically violent reaction before i'm told off about that.. but that's because he was just talking and just put the offer there which didn't offend me or piss me off. On the other hand if he come over and put his hand in my window and grabbed me on the dick I would have reacted physically.

Anyway, do you plan to rename it. Something like "Develop an aura of irresistible sexiness" or something?

[Shannon]

I am very excited for the AOS+BIATBWS 5.5G. I'll be using SM3 next, but I'd also like to run a single stage sub in between to try out new things, so I am seriously considering buying this.

My concern is that I am also not too sure about the gender neutral statements. I know "beautiful people of the gender I'm sexually attracted to" works, although wouldn't "beautiful women" be a lot more efficient for the subconscious to process? The other thing is that I'm assuming the majority of your customer base are heterosexual males (correct me if I'm wrong). Would it be possible to make two different versions catered for different genders / orientation types? Just like how there's alpha male, alpha male for gay men, and alpha female. Thanks in advance for considering.

I am not going to guarantee that it will be in 5.5G. But if I can make the skeleton script work, it very well may be.

Efficiency is, for the subconscious mind, not defined by the same constraints as that of the conscious mind. Maximum efficiency is defined for scripting aimed at the subconscious mind as being "that which most exactly achieves the end result".

Gender specified vs gender neutral, in this case, is the difference between 8 bit graphics and 32 bit graphics. They can bow display a rainbow, for example, but you'll get a much more accurate result with more resolution. The gender neutral statement allows for the same result, with consideration for all those shades of personal preference that the gender specified scripting cannot achieve. In other words, it is the more efficient of the two scripting options because it is the more accurate in terms of describing the goal.

Making versions for gay men, straight men, bisexual men, and all the same for women is six versions when we only need one. Why would I want to waste time and resources that way?

[Benjamin]

Oh I see you made several other posts on this as I was writing, i'll have a read.

[Benjamin]

It's going to basically bypass guilt, shame and fear on the one hand, and cause you to neutralize and outgrow any such that would prevent success on the other hand. It's not so much the number of goals, but how the primary goals and the implied goals interact within the script, and how I am achieving the goals.

Interesting, that is a BIG part that will make it more powerful and makes it even more tempting. I wondered that myself if some of my fear, guilt and shame would hold it back.

Really I know E2 is what I need to heal some of this deeper stuff thats come up again during WM. But AOS is on my list now definately.

[Shannon]

I think the main issue you guys have is the connotations that the phrase "gender neutral" has, versus what I am trying to express. I realized that it really isn't neutral; it's simply defining the desired goal in a different more diffused way that is capable of handling a wider range of users more efficiently and accurately without having a different meaning. It's actually ironically more diffused as a description, but more specific in what it means. I just don't know how to describe that in a short way.

[JackOfHearts]

Guys you are so fearful about everything it's amazing:
-what if I attract gay guys?
-what if it is 0.001% less efficient?
-what if I get stuck on the gender thing?
-what if my mind doesn't process the gender?
-and if it does actually works the way Shannon told you it will work, did you consider that possibility?

[CatMan]

Ben hit the nail on the head with my thoughts...that whole societal agenda now...

I didn't want to say it as any form of dissent against that is hugely eviscerated. So, me being a straight male...I'm used to being all politically correct and having no opinion on anything nowadays. Glad the mod said it, so I don't have to risk banning, lol.

It seems to be the term that already makes me cringe, and Ben too. Probably others who also felt hugely inhibited to speak up for the same reason. The implementation sounds solid from what Shannon has said. It's the term that has been beaten into our skulls and forced to publically accept all of that agenda. That's probably where the issue is coming from, just terminology. Shannon is making a one size fits all program, that will work with you and what you wish to do. That's it, it won't turn you into a tranny or gay or straight or bi or "omni" "pan", whatever else people can imagine lol.

I'm praying this BIA+AOS is made in 5.5G with epic 6G backport goodness, as much as possible. That will literally change people's lives. Please don't hesitate to take extra time to do that if it's needed, nobody wants this program rushed. This one will be a true life changer!

[Shannon]

I don't pay attention to social media or the news anymore because it's become so toxic and full of shit, quite frankly. It is also a huge time waster. I spend my time with my nose to the grindstone. So the issue is that I'm not really up on what BS is going on right now.

Some of the statements have required some pretty creative wording so far to implement the user-specified gender approach (how's that, guys?), but I'm getting it done.

[Shannon]

Just FYI: The exact wording used in the script for the target gender is:

beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to

If you're attracted to more than one gender, it still works because it passes the following test, which will be performed by your subconscious:

Am I sexually attracted to Gender X?

Case YES: Proceed
Case NO: Reject and ignore

This also works for those who subscribe to the polygender theories of human genderness.

One statement, all bases covered.

Booyah. Talk about efficiency.

[Shannon]

I'm having a hard time not turning this thing into a full 6G program. I've already added three technologies from 6G that were not in E2. They are secret, and I can't tell you what they do, but one is called MGX, one is called RGX and one is called AGN. I know, sucks that I can't tell you what they do, and believe me I'd really love to boast. But... must keep my work from being copied.

The version of MGX used in 5.5G is unsupported, meaning that it is only 1/3rd of the interface that is present in it's 6G counterpart; but it's still really powerful. RGX is fully present, in a shorter form. AGN is also fully present in a shortened form.

Suffice it to say, they are all serious about ass-kickery.

This thing is so powerful that it has to have to have an ego balancer.

[JackOfHearts]

You are already boasting Shannon, it makes me want to buy it now

[Benjamin]

Cool, as I thought it's just what i've come to see around the term gender neutral isn't what you meant.

This thing is so powerful that it has to have to have an ego balancer.

Why an ego balancer? So we aren't like "FUCK YEAH I'M GONNA FUCK EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD NOW". Does that mean it also works on confidence and belief that you are an attractive man that deserves beautiful women?

Just kind of curious why an ego balancer is needed?

It's going to basically bypass guilt, shame and fear on the one hand, and cause you to neutralize and outgrow any such that would prevent success on the other hand. It's not so much the number of goals, but how the primary goals and the implied goals interact within the script, and how I am achieving the goals.

Would it be that having a certain 'aura' bypasses guilt, shame and fear because the aura is still there in the background despite those emotions? I have had times where i've felt shit and had fear but somehow been attractive, but then there's other times where those emotions effect it and i'm invisible. I do know these emotions and insecurities can effect how you're perceived but i've had times where despite having them my 'aura' and attractiveness seemed to just be 'on' and I have no idea why.

It's funny that i'm more curious about this program than any other you've brought out for a while.

[CatMan]

Ooooooookay,

Already have set aside the money for this. Seriously, this is probably the most excited I've ever been for a program.

Sounds insane. Not too hyped about the ego nerf lol, would rather enjoy cartoonish levels of confidence etc.

Lmao! Shannon, this one sounds like the sub I've wanted my whole life. Funny how this will turn out to be way more insane than EHPRA 2.0, and still we aren't talking about full fledged 6G's yet. Never mind multi-stages, if they're even needed anymore, maybe single stages will be the new future.

What an incredible future we have to look forward to.