Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Daredevil]

Shannon how do you account for this (http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/language.shtml ) In your Subliminals.

Notice that he only find negative in the language. I can believe that some of the stuff are bad but that there is only bad stuff. It is some kind of paradox because the one who criticize someone or something is himself doing something bad. Because if you read all that you never find anything positive. It's some kind of fear reality where everything is bad and need to be avoided.
It reminds me the David Icke books, it's full of story and demons everywhere. If you read the entire book you become crazy, I can't imagine how he wrote such a book without becoming insane.
He is born : April 29, 1952, 7:15 PM

SMH. He's jus giving us the facts. I guess you don't understand David Icke who I don't watch anymore because he has his time and place and David doesn't all focus on everything bad. Most of the things in the book is true with a few distortions but the truth is far more weirder than fiction but nobody gets that. And I can believe JR Toilken wrote a book without becoming insanity because there are dungeons and demons everywhere (using your logic)

[Daredevil]

And also, Demons are just spilt of aspects of ourselves due to trauma. They linger and haunt you because they want to be Intergrated back into you. we also use them such as the Incubi and Succubi to put on as scapegoats to play the victim with our own shadow. Some people call these Demons soul fragments and we loose many over our life and it's our job to heal them and put them back where they belong. You are your own devil and enemy in a way because it's true.

[Broski]

Hey Shannon,

I seem to be pretty damn resistant and fearful of the idea of change/losing control. I resisted two back to back runs of AM6 and a follow up up of 3 months of EHPRA. After all that time I am still struggling with the same issues Ive sought to get over from the start. I am currently running OGSF 5G and its been about 20 days. I may be starting to notice some subtle effects but I am not for certain. My question for you is what would you advise me to do going forward? Should I continue on OSGF for 3 to 6 months or should I try to take a similar approach you recommenced to Catman judging by my failed cooperation to follow the subs suggestions in the past? Whatever your recommendation may be I am determined to stick through with it and come out the other side a better man. Giving up is not an option. As always thank you for your time Shannon, it is greatly appreciated!

[JackOfHearts]

Notice that he only find negative in the language. I can believe that some of the stuff are bad but that there is only bad stuff. It is some kind of paradox because the one who criticize someone or something is himself doing something bad. Because if you read all that you never find anything positive. It's some kind of fear reality where everything is bad and need to be avoided.
It reminds me the David Icke books, it's full of story and demons everywhere. If you read the entire book you become crazy, I can't imagine how he wrote such a book without becoming insane.
He is born : April 29, 1952, 7:15 PM

I don't mean to argue with you AT ALL, but having studied a bit of the theoretical physics / philosophy behind multi-demonsional space (sorry for the pun lol) it could be possible that such beings coexist within the same plane we're in, it's just that we can only detect a slightly different slice of the reality pie.

Think of it like a single room with a bunch of different waves lengths. As humans we can see color, so that would be obvious to us. Put a different lens over our eyes which enable us to see a different wave, and we suddenly see gamma waves (or whatever). So even though those waves all exist within the same plane (room) we can't detect them because our bodies can only detect certain wave lengths like color, which would be the limit of our perceptual abilities. Given certain technologies, however, who knows what we can discover in the future (different lenses giving us more access to the waves all around us).

Though it's mystical and far fetched in many ways (and ill end my conversation of this here) if those demons did exist, they might just exist in a way we can't detect. Just like we can't see microwaves, and most of electromagnetic spectrum, they might just exist in a way that we simply can't fathom as we are right now BUT they could still be everywhere within our plane of existence because they cohabit a dimension / wave length that we don't have the technology to accurately measure.

I only replied because it's really fascinating to me to consider how much of what's all around us right at this moment that we just don't have the capabilities to detect / know / comprehend yet. I'm talking about other dimensions, universes, sub-universes etc all operating at various frequencies of which we can only detect like .00000000001% of what's really out there. This is something that really blows my mind sometimes lol

I never said it doesn't exist what I meant to say is that his books are too negative, a bad influence, reading that can lead to depression. So even if it is true I would not recommend anyone to read it.

A lot of things exist because we invent them in our mind then it becomes our reality. Reading a book is like doing hypnosis on yourself. A guy who read books about scary story, demons, hell, etc everyday his emotions and reality will change. That's one reason I decided to read Casonova autobiography.

[CatMan]

I think I may have to run OF5G for awhile longer, and then go back into AM6 with even HIGHER hours than before. I've even considered a 32 day refresher of AM6 and then a full rerun of SM3 at even higher hours than the last run as well. I don't want to fall further behind the recommended guidelines is all.

What about doing way more than the recommended guidelines, and the possible fallout from that? You may be the only person on the forum who runs these subliminals with the "more is better, louder is better" mentality - which was reinforced by your success with AM and then completely nullified by your SM run.

The only reason I'm saying something is because I really feel, personally/intuitively/IME that more is not better as a general rule and that saying so everywhere you post may mislead people into believing that "more is better" leads to greater/better results.

You were doing an average of 21 hours/day before - so, you're going to just go full-on 24 hours now with no processing time!? That's crazy, man (even 21.5 hours/day is nuts)! Plenty of people around here are getting great results with hours as low as 10-12 (see 4Kingdoms).

That being said, love you bro.

Love you too lol .

You misunderstood me, don't worry bro. NOW I'm doing 21 hours a day with OF5G.

With AM6, I was doing about 17.5ish. I upped that to 18.75ish a day with SM3.

So when I rerun them, I will up them further as I'm more accustomed to the extra mental workload and have arranged my day to day to accommodate it. I have a very good routine now that allows me to easily pile up the hours. So naturally, I want to take advantage of that.

I'm absolutely NOT going against any directions, sticking to 21 hours per day max.

Also, SM3 was nullified by fear, not by listening for the hours I listened, or volume I listened.

Listening for this amount may not work for you, that's fine, no worries. Of course there's serious practical limitations for most that would make it impossible. But as long as Shannon said 21 hours a day is the max, then I will strive to hit that mark as an ideal everyday, to maximise script repetitions. It's gotten easier and easier as time has gone on. It was harder to hit 21 way back, but over time it becomes more manageable.

[heavysm]

Shannon,

I am considering using a type C sub. I've read from you before that type C subs have 2 periods: the first is the 1-2-3 week period, in which the goal of the C sub is accepted by the subconscious, and then the rest is where the mind is acting on the change. So my question is, if I listen to the sub for 18 hours a day fpr the first 3 weeks, should I continue using it for 18 hours? I mean my particular question is will more hours on the sub help once the goal of the C sub is accepted by the subconscious, will more listening help for better results once the change is accepted in this first 2-3 week period , or is the rate of physical change the same no matter the hours listened (minimum 8, of course) ? Or can I comfortably soften my efforts to get more hours and still experience the same rate of change after this 2-3 weeks? Does more hours equal more physical change/faster physical change?

Shannon will likely chime in here, but I'm pretty sure as many hours as you can fit in up to 21 hours daily is ideal for any sub. The instructions don't say anything special in terms of listening for different amounts of time for a type C sub so I'm pretty sure listening as much as you can up to 21 hours daily is your best bet.

And of course, if you only listen for 8 hours daily versus 18, the rate of change will be that much slower in proportion to the amount you don't listen as well.

[Benjamin]

Guys this isn't the place to talk about demons and such.. rule 4.

[SargeMaximus]

Just putting this out there, but if Shannon is making a BIATBWS + DAOS 5G, I move that he should remove all "single women" statements, and any "hetero sexual male" statements as well.

[RTBoss]

Where are the updates about the release of EHPRA 2.0!? ARRRGGHHH! ;-D

[Nox]

Where are the updates about the release of EHPRA 2.0!? ARRRGGHHH! ;-D

I know, I am hopefully still starting it tomorrow lol

[Spiritman]

Where are the updates about the release of EHPRA 2.0!? ARRRGGHHH! ;-D

I understand your frustration about wanting EPHRA 2.0 to be released, I am waiting for it myself. But there is no point in keep asking about updates, Shannon will let us know when it close to being released. Until then, we just have to be patient. Shannon doesn't rush his work just to get the product out to make money. He wants to make sure that the products he makes, work the way they're suppose to. That is why it takes so long for new products to be released.

[Dubls]

I have a problem with 'single women' statements

[SargeMaximus]

Just putting this out there, but if Shannon is making a BIATBWS + DAOS 5G, I move that he should remove all "single women" statements, and any "hetero sexual male" statements as well.

Yeah, such and others statements take away so many potential repetitions of the script.. And seems like they limit the result of the subliminal(the single women statement)

But were talkimg about the later stages of 5g tech here. I'm sure Shannon will be putting a lot more in than just the old scripting anyway.

I have nothing against taking out the "If I am heterosexual" or "single women" statements, but please leave in the stuff about not getting interest from and approached by men.

I just hope he doesn't put more statements in. Perfection is achieved when there's nothing left to take away, NOT when there's nothing left to add. I forget who said that.

But yeah, leave in the anti male approaches for sure.

This sub should just be the ultimate woman attracting sub. It should be blunt and dumb, meaning, it should be powerful, where all the discretion is on the man using it.

[Dubls]

Shannon, I know this is very long post but please read it because I think it´s important and all the APY subs so far shares one common theme while leaving out another rather big and I think equally important theme.

I agree with CatMan and Multiworld that OF 5G should be first on the list before AYPs.

Now, as for AYPs I would suggest:
AYPSC: Attract Your Perfect Sexual Circle.

Aside of AlphaMind´s second suggestion there is one commonality about every existing and suggested AYP; they are all focused on attracting ONE of X. That is perfect for those who are into monogamy (or serial monogamy). But there are number of people, including myself, who does not fit into that lifestyle choice and instead is having or building some form of what is called polyamory or similar. That in itself is broad concept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory and can include polygamy (both polygyny and polyandry) , and similar. The term is used and misused in so many ways , and it includes both tradition arrangements (marriage to multiple spouses) and modern versions of it (multiple lovers, and might include one spouse , or several where in countries where it is legal) . In short, I am talking "opposite" of monogamy. AlphaMind talks about harem, but not everyone who are not into monogamy wants a harem, or it depends what harem in modern day means. Having all the lovers living in your house can become a mayhem, especially since their menstrual cycles are actually starting to synchronize and you don´t want to be home at that time of the month when there are multiple of them...

Anyway, this sub would benefit both men and women since the title (and script) would be Attract YOUR PERFECT Sexual Circle. And it would benefit all the sexual orientations too (gay/lesbian/straight/bi and whatever there is these days...trans ect.). Again, the main point is to have sub for those who are NOT into monogamy but into any of the wide variety of other lifestyles that includes having two or more lovers at the same time.

I guess SM touches some of this, but it is for straight men (which I am, not that it matters in the case of sub that I am asking...and I have just finished SM) leaving women and men with different sexual orientation out. I´m not sure what AYPBRL contains, but I think it also focuses on perfect ONE, for people into monogamy but with targeted sexual orientation. So all AYPs are for Attract Your Perfect ONE X, which leaves a lot of people out who prefers different lifestyle.

For those who doubt about this concept let me tell you; whatever kind of lifestyle you are into there are tons of others who share the same view, you just need to know where to look for and know EXACTLY what you want, be 100% honest about it for yourself and upfront for those who you are inviting into your circle, and NEVER bend out of that frame if someone, especially woman, tries to talk you out of it to have her way. It´s your way or highway, and there are people who will gladly share the view of your way. Guys often think it is next to impossible to create a sexual circle of women who are willing to share you as the only man they sleep with (modern polygyny) but it´s not. I know people who are doing it, my eyes has recently opened up and I am on my way to create this lifestyle for myself (whether the sub will be released or not) Not in the long too distant in the future I am going to hire the master himself (who shall remain anonymous) and who has done this for decades to be my mentor (Who is very, VERY expensive btw, but again, it´s all about knowing EXACTLY what you want...what are your priorities, and paying price for that) Likewise for those guys who want to share one and only woman with several other guys (modern polyandry) there are women like that too, running this sub would be useful for both those guys and those women. And EVERY POSSIBLE VARIETY of these things with every kind of sexual orientations within the participants, and every kind of possible arrangements.

I believe in the philosophy that people should be able to make their own choices about these things. Monogamy is just one possible choice (which, again, all the current AYPs are geared towards...tho the salespage mention that sometimes they attract more than one of X, but that is by coincidence more than by design and can lead into amazing experience...or high voltage drama since it´s not by design).

Btw, before anyone says something along the lines "guys often think they want arrangements like this...but they just don´t yet know that they don´t" , I know myself more than well enough to know EXACTLY what I want. And like Alpha360,I encourage everyone else to also do enough research about what you want and about yourself too to know it for sure. There is TREMENDOUS power in knowing exactly what you want and having unshakable, constant intention (which is more than just a goal) to execute that...but that is getting outside of the topic.

I respect everyones lifestyle choice regarding this topic, and I respectfully ask for Shannon to consider about building an attraction sub for those who share my view on this. If the script is possible to be effective for attracting Your Perfect Sexual Circle while leaving it up to user what kind of variety of the circle he or she wants then I think it would benefit a lot of some customers, current and future ones.
I´m not in rush tho...will run BASE and AM again etc. before. Reasons why I want this sub is irrelevant here, and NO, it´s not about what you think and I don´t want to extend this already very long post by going into details)

btw, someone mentioned Attract Your Perfect Girlfriend and how even those who are not into monogamy would like that...and I think Alpha360 agreed...well, of course I would benefit from that too since my perfect girlfriend would be the perfect primary girlfriend in my circle (polygyny often, but not always, include one primary gf, several secondary and in some cases several third kind which are often casual flings more than gfs. )

I'm all for having multiple lovers. Would I want them under one roof? I think not. The only point I want to make about your comments is the one-sidedness a lot of men have when it comes to polyamory. They want to have multiple women and yet they expect those women to stay 'loyal'. It's a two way street.