Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Shannon you are making out that with these free upgrades you are doing us a favour, when the first product you put out should be doing what the product description stated to begin with, otherwise US/LM wouldn't need up "upgrading".

USLM v1 didn't need upgrading. It worked just fine. I didn't have to upgrade it, and I didn't have to make the upgrades public. I upgraded it to make it better than it was, and to rapidly test FRM so I could make DMSI 3.3 as close to finished as possible. You are acting like version 1 wasn't good enough. The fact that I gave those upgrades for free has only to do with the fact that the rush for time was on, and I didn't think it was fair to my customers to be charged for so many versions in such quick succession. I was doing you a favor, because I could have charged you for them, and I could have also just put FRM 3.2 in DMSI 3.3. Again, there was nothing wrong with USLM v1. I just tried to kill two birds with one stone. I think you need to look up the definition of gratitude.

Lets not even speak of the fact that these subs still need to be improved at the current tech 5.5G, to work for majority of people, let alone all the previous generations that people have paid for.

Oh, let's do talk about that. You won't find subs anywhere near this good anywhere else at any price, no matter what my competition says. That's why I can (and do) charge what I do, which is the highest price in the entire industry, and that's why people pay it. If I was like most of the "subliminal" producers out there, I would have stopped developing at 4G, and fleshed out a thousand titles, and been sitting on a beach sipping pina coladas.

Instead, I decided to keep going, because it didn't do what *I* wanted it to do. The majority of people get great results with the exception of DMSI and MLS. And both of those cases, they don't get great results because the programs are so powerful that they trigger fear of success, and that is a big part of what I have been working to overcome.

In 4G the programs were good enough to produce a decent result, but they were not good enough to please me. Some of them were not powerful enough to do what I wanted them to do. So I kept going. What other subliminal producer has done that? Instead, they just make a thousand titles, advertise using only the positive feedback, and go sit on a beach and sip pina coladas. They don't care if it works for you or not. And it's only after 10+ years of me doing this that we finally have one or two other producers who might follow in my footsteps on making their subs actually work instead of just producing them and walking away.

You are framing this as if I'm in the wrong for trying to lead the entire industry and develop subliminals into what they actually can be and do, instead of producing a thousand crappy titles and drinking pina coladas on the beach all day. I think you need to look up the definition of gratitude.

You are basically getting paid for people to continuously beta test your subliminals at this point, so you can make them work for majority of people (FRM).

When I started producing 5.5G subs, you all knew that this was a transitionary generation, which is being used to develop the technology that will go into 6G and still allow me to satisfy my customer's wishes by producing subliminals, while getting feedback to improve them, while also keeping this business alive financially. If you didn't want to participate, you are and always have been welcome to stick with 4G and 5G subs, or go find some other producer.

It's not like we don't have, BY FAR, the best refund policy in the entire world for this type of business. In fact it may just be the best refund policy anywhere. I think you need to look up the definition of gratitude.

Is always having a new upgrade a part of your sales technique or what?

Let me give you a little bit of education. What happens when I stop producing subliminals? Nothing. You guys get bored, and I make no money. Without money, I can't pay my bills, and without that I can't make more subliminals. Computers, electricity, internet access, food, water, gas, car payments, server costs, advertising, and much more has to be paid for.

When I was done developing 5G and it wasn't doing what I wanted it to do, did I have to develop 6G? No, I could have just built a huge catalog in 5G and gone off to the beach to drink pina coladas when I was done. Instead, I started what has come to be 6 years worth of work so far to develop the best subliminals in the world, the best that subliminal can possibly be given current technological options. Six years of frustration that I didn't have to go through because I want my subs to be the best. And you know what? They already were, at 5G. Nobody in the industry was even coming close.

Those out there who are offering even an inkling of competition are doing so only because they have read this forum and are using techniques I pioneered, and did so because I was on a quest for a better subliminal, even though at the time, mine were already the best.

Nobody forces you to buy my subs. Nobody forces you to read this forum. Nobody forces you to come here and be ungrateful for what is the best in the world of it's kind, which is changing lives and getting better and better with every release, which will in the near future achieve it's pinnacle and do things that you can't even imagine right now.

So instead of being an insulting ingrate, how about you go look up the definition of gratitude and practice it.

If US/LM V4 comes out before 6G and it has to be paid for, I think is B.S.

And your thinking and attitude is exactly why I have zero desire to make USLM4. Somebody will bitch about not getting free upgrades forever because they feel entitled and are ungrateful for even the best there is. For those of you who want USLM4, this guy is an example of why I don't want to make it.

I understand paying for 6G as hopefully these will actually be a final product. But paying for an upgrade of the same tech, is just taking the piss.

The same generation, maybe, but not the same tech. Every release is an upgrade in tech.

I suggest you look up "entitled", too, while you're at it.

I just wanted to say that I can see completely where @Fluffy is coming from but I also can see and I do support 100% @Shannon is doing here.

I don't see where he is coming from at all.

If anyone has any reason to have any gripe or frustration it would be me. Being here from 2015 and not having any results would hit you hard for sure.

I have had many members here turn at me for asking questions repeatedly when really it was either cos I dont read and remember everything that I skim read through out the forum - im not here 100% of my waking life - and also it was whenever I was needing a confidence boost as nothing here was working for me.

Even during all this time I still remained polite and continued to have 1 solid thought and that was I trust Shannon!

I still trust SHANNON! I know hes as human as us all and has ups and downs and life cycles I wont truly understand but yet hes here making things that he believes can work.

Its also a business, either pay the man or dont pay the man. If anyone feels hes taking you for a ride then hop off but im staying here on this ride.

I got your back @Shannon so keep going bro, no matter what you do have friends here that understand its not easy but I also know you have sincerity and ethics and that comes across in the way you have kept going.

I also know that fluffy makes sense but you and I are here cos we need change in our lives buddy so lets just do whatever we both feel is best for us too.

No offence intended to anyone here at all.

ps: forget the pina coladas, they may interfer with the state shifting lol

Fluffy is being unreasonable. If he's not happy with my products, then he can get a refund (presuming he followed the directions) and go use someone else's programs. Instead, he's complaining and making attacks on me personally. That's not reasonable.

Common sense solution: use the subs as directed, get your money back if they don't work, and move on if they consistently don't work. We have that refund policy because we wanted to make sure nobody felt cheated if they had a problem, and if anything, it's gotten us taken advantage of more than anything else.

The fact is, you guys are here because these subs are better than the alternative, and because I am working to make them better still. So Fluffy can pick one - be patient and grateful for what I am doing, or do the common sense thing if he's not happy and choose something that works for him instead of complaining and making personal attacks.

Nobody's getting scammed here.