Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Topaz]

I don't see the point of a mixed DMSI/UMS. Just do the 'ol switcharoo every six months or so and you'll get both things eventually.

The best way to do it (IMO) is to focus on monetary success (and self development) first, and then the sex will usually take care of itself.

Getting to sex is not cheap, and maintaining that access is not cheap, with the possible exception of someone who is only interested in FWB (which tends to blow up in a man's face, from my experience).

If I make DMSI v5 + UMS vNext as one program, that's gonna be crazy expensive, because both of those are slated to be Premiums in their next incarnation.  Plus it's a multi-stage set.

If I try to make something that is a single stage for each and mix them together, but start from scratch on what goes in them, it'll be a lot less expensive because I don't have to make it a Premium or a multi-stage set.

In either case, I don't think it's a good idea.  But we'll get into it more in detail when 6G comes around and I have built the initial flurry of titles.

Personally wait for ASC as a 6G as long as it will get the attention of women as 5G does (from what I've read in journals of others)
Almost the only subs the help with confidence are AM6 and ASC
And I probably need a help in that area as well which I'll focus on in the future.

I see what you are saying about the 6 stages programs 
The question is if the subconscious mind can focus on few different subjects at the same time
If the answer is yes than it's something to look into as you said when 6G is here

The feeling I get and I might be wrong is for example:
Person A used DMSI or let's say finished SM (with success )..
Then he started to use UMS or MM... The subconscious mind now focus on money and not on attracting women
So what Person A will attract from the universe will be more towards that. Which can be frustrating. Because he will see the benefits of the last program fading.
I hope I'm wrong with my assessment here
Meanwhile there are some people using law of attraction to attract many things at the same time with success

Now if the results stay and stay and you can just add with every program it might be completely different 
I personally don't have enough experience with subliminals to know the answer

[Have at ye]

I have a suggestion for a module for future versions of EHPRA:

How about something like: "resolve internal conflicts in the most beneficial, positive way for the user"? Something like that. Could be very useful. Unless it already has something like that.

[Frosted]

The best way to do it (IMO) is to focus on monetary success (and self development) first, and then the sex will usually take care of itself.

Getting to sex is not cheap, and maintaining that access is not cheap, with the possible exception of someone who is only interested in FWB (which tends to blow up in a man's face, from my experience).

If I make DMSI v5 + UMS vNext as one program, that's gonna be crazy expensive, because both of those are slated to be Premiums in their next incarnation.  Plus it's a multi-stage set.

If I try to make something that is a single stage for each and mix them together, but start from scratch on what goes in them, it'll be a lot less expensive because I don't have to make it a Premium or a multi-stage set.

In either case, I don't think it's a good idea.  But we'll get into it more in detail when 6G comes around and I have built the initial flurry of titles.

Personally wait for ASC as a 6G as long as it will get the attention of women as 5G does (from what I've read in journals of others)
Almost the only subs the help with confidence are AM6 and ASC
And I probably need a help in that area as well which I'll focus on in the future.

I see what you are saying about the 6 stages programs 
The question is if the subconscious mind can focus on few different subjects at the same time
If the answer is yes than it's something to look into as you said when 6G is here

The feeling I get and I might be wrong is for example:
Person A used DMSI or let's say finished SM (with success )..
Then he started to use UMS or MM... The subconscious mind now focus on money and not on attracting women
So what Person A will attract from the universe will be more towards that. Which can be frustrating. Because he will see the benefits of the last program fading.
I hope I'm wrong with my assessment here
Meanwhile there are some people using law of attraction to attract many things at the same time with success

Now if the results stay and stay and you can just add with every program it might be completely different 
I personally don't have enough experience with subliminals to know the answer

@Shannon Will be able to explain this better than me, but from my personal experience that is not the case. Some effects fade depending on various factors. For example a lot of the aura stuff fades because that needs constant subliminal pressure. But most self development will stay, minus some of the shallower/incomplete work and anything that conflicts with the new program.

I haven’t used AM6 in years but I still notice a lot of the body language stuff. Anything that wasn’t deep faded though so my body language isn’t as good as it used to be since I didn’t have the inner work done to support it’s continued existence.

[Shannon]

The best way to do it (IMO) is to focus on monetary success (and self development) first, and then the sex will usually take care of itself.

Getting to sex is not cheap, and maintaining that access is not cheap, with the possible exception of someone who is only interested in FWB (which tends to blow up in a man's face, from my experience).

If I make DMSI v5 + UMS vNext as one program, that's gonna be crazy expensive, because both of those are slated to be Premiums in their next incarnation.  Plus it's a multi-stage set.

If I try to make something that is a single stage for each and mix them together, but start from scratch on what goes in them, it'll be a lot less expensive because I don't have to make it a Premium or a multi-stage set.

In either case, I don't think it's a good idea.  But we'll get into it more in detail when 6G comes around and I have built the initial flurry of titles.

Personally wait for ASC as a 6G as long as it will get the attention of women as 5G does (from what I've read in journals of others)
Almost the only subs the help with confidence are AM6 and ASC
And I probably need a help in that area as well which I'll focus on in the future.

I see what you are saying about the 6 stages programs 
The question is if the subconscious mind can focus on few different subjects at the same time
If the answer is yes than it's something to look into as you said when 6G is here

The feeling I get and I might be wrong is for example:
Person A used DMSI or let's say finished SM (with success )..
Then he started to use UMS or MM... The subconscious mind now focus on money and not on attracting women
So what Person A will attract from the universe will be more towards that. Which can be frustrating. Because he will see the benefits of the last program fading.
I hope I'm wrong with my assessment here
Meanwhile there are some people using law of attraction to attract many things at the same time with success

Now if the results stay and stay and you can just add with every program it might be completely different 
I personally don't have enough experience with subliminals to know the answer

So here's a bit more on what I'm talking about.

Trying to focus on money and sex at the same time is relatively mutually exclusive.  The more you focus on achieving money, the less time and energy you have to chase sex.  The more you focus on chasing sex, the less time, energy and money you have for going after money. 

If you have money, then sex opens up as a side effect.  If you focus on sex without money, then you're not going to have anywhere near as many options sexually, and you'll be spending more money instead of making more money.

Focusing on sex first is what everyone wants to do until they really come to understand this.  You don't want to focus on sex first, you want to focus on money first, because more money = more options sexually and romantically, more ability to have assets and resources, more ability to travel, more ability to basically provide, which triggers more interest from females.

If you focus on sex first, you're trying to get access with less money, less resources, less freedom, and less interest from potential sex partners, because you have fewer resources and can provide less.

Trying to do DMSI and then MM, for example, wouldn't work well because you're starting with less resources and spending your time and energy on sex, which is unsustainable.  Then using MM will completely refocus you in a completely different direction, and use all resources to achieve money, which makes you stop focusing on sex.

Trying to combine the two will put you in a position where the ship is trying to sail to Guam and Japan at the same time, so to speak.  Neither gets full access to resources, time, attention or focus.  They're competing and they're also working against each other because again, one focuses on spending more money and one focuses on making more money.  Combining those two really doesn't work well overall.

The solution is to get situated personally and financially first, and then worry about sex.

[Shannon]

I have a suggestion for a module for future versions of EHPRA:

How about something like: "resolve internal conflicts in the most beneficial, positive way for the user"? Something like that. Could be very useful. Unless it already has something like that.

That went into DMSI in either v3.x or v4, I can't remember.  But it'll be in v5.

[AbundanceCH]

Brain Optimizer isn't a descendant of any previous title.  It's a built-from-scratch title designed to do a variety of things to improve your brain and brain function.  Detox, dietary adjustment, sleep improvement, hemispheric balancing, improved cognition, brain chemistry balancing and optimization of brain activity, among several other things.  It's not designed specifically to affect ADD/ADHD, or impove focus.  It's aimed more at improving memory than helping you learn explicitly, but it should have a variety of side effects that make a positive impact on things like focus, ADD/ADHD and learning. In this program I'm also working on mental clarity and sharpness. 

It is going to be the basis for developing scripting for a variety of other programs as well.  O have 21 goals right now and the list is still in the process of development.

Does it have actual physical healing of the brain as well?

[Shannon]

Brain Optimizer isn't a descendant of any previous title.  It's a built-from-scratch title designed to do a variety of things to improve your brain and brain function.  Detox, dietary adjustment, sleep improvement, hemispheric balancing, improved cognition, brain chemistry balancing and optimization of brain activity, among several other things.  It's not designed specifically to affect ADD/ADHD, or impove focus.  It's aimed more at improving memory than helping you learn explicitly, but it should have a variety of side effects that make a positive impact on things like focus, ADD/ADHD and learning. In this program I'm also working on mental clarity and sharpness. 

It is going to be the basis for developing scripting for a variety of other programs as well.  O have 21 goals right now and the list is still in the process of development.

Does it have actual physical healing of the brain as well?

There is a module that deals with brain health.  How it comes out, focused on healing or health, is yet to be determined.  That will depend on what comes out of the models as to which path produces the best results.

[Have at ye]

I have a suggestion for a module for future versions of EHPRA:

How about something like: "resolve internal conflicts in the most beneficial, positive way for the user"? Something like that. Could be very useful. Unless it already has something like that.

That went into DMSI in either v3.x or v4, I can't remember.  But it'll be in v5.

Neat. But is it also in EHPRA? Heck, it could be useful for all programs, I think, especially if the instructions result in an internal conflict of some sort.

[Shannon]

That went into DMSI in either v3.x or v4, I can't remember.  But it'll be in v5.

Neat. But is it also in EHPRA? Heck, it could be useful for all programs, I think, especially if the instructions result in an internal conflict of some sort.

It is not in EHPRA.  Physically healing the brain isn't what you are looking for with something like emotional healing & Pain Relief Aid.  The emotions aren't a physical thing, and damage to the brain that would influence them is rare at best.

I don't understand the last part... why would physical brain healing be useful for all programs?  It would take a lot of energy to do, and most people don't need physical brain healing.  It also doesn't make sense that it should be more effective if the instructions result in internal conflict.

[Have at ye]

Neat. But is it also in EHPRA? Heck, it could be useful for all programs, I think, especially if the instructions result in an internal conflict of some sort.

It is not in EHPRA.  Physically healing the brain isn't what you are looking for with something like emotional healing & Pain Relief Aid.  The emotions aren't a physical thing, and damage to the brain that would influence them is rare at best.

I don't understand the last part... why would physical brain healing be useful for all programs?  It would take a lot of energy to do, and most people don't need physical brain healing.  It also doesn't make sense that it should be more effective if the instructions result in internal conflict.

I meant "internal conflict resolution in ways beneficial to the user and/or the execution of the program" (or something to that extent), not brain healing.

[Topaz]

I've seen a bit what you are talking about with AM6
I've stopped attracting sex and focused more on money in an obvious ways.
I still do but not the same when was running AM6
I wonder what's an easy and effective program for money?
It seems there are many but just one
I mean even BASE sounds amazing and also make the user Alpha and attractive because it make you very productive and capable
However BASE is 5G

[Shannon]

It is not in EHPRA.  Physically healing the brain isn't what you are looking for with something like emotional healing & Pain Relief Aid.  The emotions aren't a physical thing, and damage to the brain that would influence them is rare at best.

I don't understand the last part... why would physical brain healing be useful for all programs?  It would take a lot of energy to do, and most people don't need physical brain healing.  It also doesn't make sense that it should be more effective if the instructions result in internal conflict.

I meant "internal conflict resolution in ways beneficial to the user and/or the execution of the program" (or something to that extent), not brain healing.

Ah, so left a word or two out.

[Shannon]

I've seen a bit what you are talking about with AM6
I've stopped attracting sex and focused more on money in an obvious ways.
I still do but not the same when was running AM6
I wonder what's an easy and effective program for money?
It seems there are many but just one
I mean even BASE sounds amazing and also make the user Alpha and attractive because it make you very productive and capable
However BASE is 5G

BASE is 5G, but as far as it goes it is good.  It needs an upgrade, but that's going to be in 6G. 

The programs I prefer for money are UMS v2 and Money Magnet.  UMS v2 is my favorite for what it aims for, and MM is my favorite for getting past my resistance best.  But it depends on what's holding you back as to how easy the process is.

[Tao374]

I haven't been on the forum in a long time, but I've become a huge fan of MM over the last 6 months. My commission-based job has exploded and I constantly get leads without looking for them while being laser focused to follow through. I plan on posting a full review when time permits.