(01-26-2018, 09:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: The biggest thing I think guys need to realize about women is that they're people. They have feelings, just like us. They can't be treated like objects, or walking vaginas if you want the healthy ones to stick around. She needs to feel valid, valued, cared about and worthwhile to you. Low value, low self esteem women will accept any treatment, but the good ones require accordingly better treatment if you're going to have a relationship with them. Of course this isn't to say you should be a doormat, but certainly you should treat a relationship partner according to the value they have.
I frequently have had issues seeing them as "just people", as I don't feel I've been treated like one by them. They've also been so unattainable and "above" me for whatever reason. I admit, it's really hard to view them as "just like me" in such an environment. They seem "out of reach" to me somehow, or even "bad" due to the treatment. I do also often wonder if I even WANT to associate with "people" like that who act like that towards me and think of me in such low ways. It's created a conflict with using such a program with such a goal, due to no positive interactions to draw from I think. This thinking is why I've so often chosen to stick to Version A, as I know I need C&H.
If anything, I've gone too far always to the "doormat" side. Doing "the right thing" decades of feminism drilled into me to do, but never being rewarded or respected for doing so. And then jealously watching the "bad boys" get girls while the girls would whine where the "good guys" are, when the "bad boys" treat them the obvious way they will. All while lining up for the "bad boys", which never made any sense. Watching this dynamic play out so many times, so many girls, for so long, can be very frustrating.
Now I know why they do it thanks to a book I read, and I'm trying to build up my value of self and self esteem etc. hopefully with V3.2's help. To not be the "doormat" anymore and actually get respect from them, something I don't really think I have for some reason. And hopefully, finally, some level of attraction from them and taken seriously at last with value in their eyes, something I don't think I've ever felt before in my entire life, sadly. We'll see, V3.2 should be a step towards that I hope given it's changes.
Sorry Raykon, I thought I'd add some info of thinking which may help C&H or other aspects of programs, including V3.2, or the skeleton script on this topic quoted.
