04-07-2016, 09:58 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-07-2016, 09:59 PM by dissonance.)
(04-07-2016, 04:05 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:(04-07-2016, 09:51 AM)dissonance Wrote:(04-07-2016, 09:36 AM)Dzemoo Wrote: dont forget to always take anti estrogens with steroids otherwise you will get depressiv and emotinal weak, thats why women are weirde because of estrogens
Thanks. Is this true with Ostarine/Cardarine as well?
Cardarine, no -- ALLEGEDLY. Ostarine, yes. I experienced slight testosterone shutdown on Ostarine, which feels like what Dzemoo just said. Depressive, weak, whiny. But grab a highly rated PCT (post cycle therapy) from Bodybuilding.com and you'll be ok. I have friends that do a PCT after eight weeks of heavy exercise -- it's just good for the body.
Ostarine, I do eight weeks on, eight weeks off. Some people push it to sixteen. I experienced shutdown when I tried fourteen.
Cardarine, I plan on doing until I run out. I'm still in my first week of Cardarine. I will admit, I'm EXTREMELY drained and annoyed today. However, I'm also in my second run of AM6 -- which has been mentally and physically exhausting, AND I busted my ass at the dojo working out last night. So it's probably not the Cardarine, but just wanted to give you a heads up.
I grab my Ostarine / Cardarine from SarmsX.com / isarms.com (same company).
Oh okay cool, I just found out about SarmsX too and was gonna ask if it's legit. Thanks.
Also, I posted about this in T-nation as well, and people are semi-bashing me, and also saying that Ostarine isn't that effective, and that the T-suppression is not easy to prevent with a PCT.
What are your thoughts? Here is the thread, as well as a quote from the thread:
https://forums.t-nation.com/t/complete-s...n/216225/7
"I'll give you my more complete thoughts on Ostarine, since you seem very interested in it.
First, I've never heard of anyone getting substantial results out of it. It would be WAAAY more popular if it actually worked well.
Second, yes, that's how PCT works. But the PCT process is imperfect. It's usually successful, but it's not always. And that's assuming you actually know what you're doing, rather than following the really terrible advice that's out there. PCT is, without a doubt, the most poorly comprehended aspect out there as far as PEDS are concerned.
But basically, here's what happens. You run an Ostarine cycle, and let's say you actually DO make some iprovements over, say, a 6 week cycle. Then it's time for PCT. So in PCT, you are no longer using the strength drug, and at the same time, your testosterone production sucks. So over the course of the 4-6 week PCT, you may lose all of, if not more than, the gains you made using the drug. That doesn't sound like a good time to me. Does that appeal to you?"