04-07-2016, 09:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-07-2016, 09:58 AM by dissonance.)
(04-07-2016, 04:32 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:(04-06-2016, 08:51 PM)dissonance Wrote: I read some stuff about Ostarine, and came across people saying it might cause cancer? Anyone read about this?
I am not a medical professional, so follow this advice at your own risk. This is based off my personal experience. That being said...
There's A LOT of fearmongering out there that's all based in insecurity. People are going to try to instill fear in you to prevent you from self-improvement because it reminds them of how lazy they are.
It's not Ostarine that had the cancer scares, it's Cardarine, which I'm taking now. Neither of which are steroids, but will give you results similar to one. You can't just take either one and sit around -- you'll still have to exercise, HARD. Basically, they'll reduce your recovery time significantly, allowing you to exercise harder and more frequently, while also helping your body synthesize muscle. Cardarine has an emphasis on endurance and fat burning over muscle building, though in my experience, you do heal faster. The endurance factor is absolutely insane. My martial arts workout last night was unbelievable, although I'm paying the price today. BEYOND SORE. I think I overtrained, lol.
Yes, Cardarine MAY HAVE cancer in rats. Rats that were already predisposed to cancer. The cancer was non-fatal stomach polyps. They also gave the rats 4000x the recommended dosage. For a year.
The recommended dosage for Cardarine in humans is 20mg max a day. For it to even become a cancer threat, you'd have to take like... 3000mg a day. For a very long time. And remember -- those same rats are known for getting cancer from like... everything. If I remember correctly, I think they also exposed the rats to carcinogens to help prevent cell apoptosis.
Ostarine's big concern is that it can suppress natural testosterone production, so it's recommended that you run it in 8-week cycles. When I ran it, I did notice some shutdown, so I just bought a proper PCT cycle from Bodybuilding.com or something and I'm all good.
As for your gains, you never really "lose" muscle per se unless you starve yourself. The flab you see on older bodybuilder types is the muscle fibers elongating after non-use. So even when you come off whatever you want to take, you should keep the gains as long as you keep using those muscles.
The good news is, looking at your picture, you most likely can reach that goal in a year or two of heavy lifting and clean eating.
Your help is much appreciated. Just to clarify, do you mean a year or two with Ostarine cycling, or a year or two staying natty?
Also, where do you purchase your Ostarine and Cardarine?