Primal Masculinity 5.11g

[Benjamin]

I've been running PM for a little over 2 months. This sub is on par with Maverick in terms of smoothness. It's also on par with Maverick in terms of the thick skin effect. I'm really enjoying it so far,  particularly since it seem to build on itself using experiential feedback loops. I'm hoping to see some of what you've done here layered into AM7.

Overall, this is probably my favorite sub. Nice job on this one.

-NOMAD said this here

The first thing I noticed about the sub is that it felt really mellow to me, kind of like Maverick did. That stands in stark contrast to US which had a stimulating effect. My stress levels dropped immediately. The next thing I noticed is that I felt a kinship with other men. Then I began to notice deference from other men. Then I began to notice hints of intimidation from other men. Then I noticed that I was walking more upright, shoulders back, chin up. Then I began to notice that I was taking up more space. At some point within the last 2 weeks, I began to want other men to challenge me so I could beat them at whatever I was being challenged on.

Other notables are that I started getting acne on my face and back within a week or two of beginning. Also, my scent changed. I began to stink more, especially my feet and armpits. One morning, I woke up with an 8 out of 10 morning wood which is something that hasn't happened in a while. I've been working out regularly mainly because I want my physical conditioning to match my mindset. In one of my offline journal entries, I noted that I want to forge myself into something "weapon-like" on a mental, physical, and emotional level. I don't mean that in the sense of violence. I mean it in the sense of Spartan-like discipline. I also noted that it's "stoking my inner badass". It feels good. Really good.

-And this here

[Benjamin]

First of all, I don't have Maverick experience, I can't comment on this part. Also, I haven't used this sub as regularly and as long as you have. I used PM regularly for about 3 weeks. It reduces stress levels significantly, I would describe it as 'peace of mind'. I agree 100% about getting respect from other men, there is definitely something like that. I also agree with the other things you said, I had these effects too, even though I only used it regularly for 2 and a half to 3 weeks. And then when I went back and listened to it from time to time, the effects would come back immediately.

As an example of what PM does, I was recently on DMSI and DMSI had made my life a chaos. But when I ran PM, I could clearly feel it picking up my life or encouraging me to pick it up and be better. I don't know if it's because it's 5.11g, although the programs and goals are different, but PM is really much more powerful than DMSI in terms of achieving its goals. Maybe it has something to do with the complexity of the programs, I don't know, but even PM's recommended 1 hour of listening gives serious results. I'm not trying to compare two different programs, I'm just giving an example because these are the sub's I've tried recently.

In general, PM is a very successful program in my opinion, although not many people post about it in the forum.

-Papagani24 said this here

(the comments are in reference to NOMAD's comments on the same program.)