(01-06-2016, 02:44 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: Guider of course I noticed change but how am I supposed to know if it lasts. That's why I'm asking someone that has ran subs longer than me, and has mentioned something that I interpreted as "subs work half the time amazing and the other half not at all. and also the changes don't last".
I guess I just missread what you wrote Dzemoo. Even without subs, you will never reach "there" you can only become closer and closer. I thought you meant that either the sub worked amazing or not at all. Unless that is what you're saying? :p
different subs works under different enviorements
am6 for example works perfectly for me when i am in a bad and shitty mood thats when i made my girl cry every second day and tell me she will never leave ?
but how i got into this shitty mood? by taking huge doses of progestine derivates like trenbolone, i was constantly in a mood of fuck it i cant do this anymore and she sensed it and fought for the relationship
since i switched to dht-derivates my mood changed from pissed to good and i couldnt get that angry anymore and thats when she lost her attraction
on wm it was the opposite i had to be in a state of good mood to attract women
so yes its what i say they either work amazing or not at all
what depresses me is that noone accepts you for who you really are its all about your state thats what i realized during this years of subs, i could never enjoy or love this women because i always thought she only likes me because of wm2 stage 5 or she only likes me because of sm3 stage 3 and so on thats fucked up and by the end of the month you are afraid to switch to the next stage because you know it will all change
will alpha be able to hold his girl during stage 5 ? sure will he be able to hold her during stage 6 maybe? but after ? for how long?
over the years i dated maybe 100 women but what is left from this? some reputation, some photos and thoughts about how it felt to be inside them thats all, i am not the guy i was 5 years ago who is just looking for to get laid and loose his virginity i expect more from life and subs thats why i cant feel positive about this all
i know i will us every new multistage shannons comes up with and will listen to subs my whole life just like i will use performance enhancing drugs my whole life why? because its better to listen to them than not to listen to them without them i wouldnt have met these women in the first place but will i find happiness through subs i dont think so