I liked your honesty and integrity in that post. Didn't mean to call you out here, it was just the most memorable example I could recall at the time where I feel emphasis on character development would be so much more helpful and powerful than selling a "magic pill", whether it is a subliminal or some supposed "pickup artist"'s $500 course.
I posted here mostly to get it off my chest and possibly get a few readers thinking in a more empowering way.
The attracting women niche was a trigger for me as I personally went deep into the whole Dating and even "PUA" thing for quite a time. I've taken many "magic pills" and hopped onboard self development fads. I tried spray on pheromones, elaborate pickup lines, etc etc. I spent tons of money and 1000s of hours on that sort of stuff and maybe .1% of it had lasting value.
What really changed things on my journey in regard to women? (incomplete list)
*Starting a daily workout habit (even 1 pushup, as long as you do more than 0)
*Working and gaining financial independence from family members.
*Learning about sexual transmutation and quitting pornography. (HUGE)
*Getting a good handle on nutrition and eating healthily.
*Conquering the half truth of nihilism with the creation of a deeply meaningful personal philosophy (perhaps difficult but extremely worthwhile)
*Focusing primarily on character growth > attracting women (see book "KING WARRIOR MAGICIAN LOVER", excellent archetypal framework of mature masculine.)
*The books "The Rational Male" and "Models: Attracting Women Through Honesty"
As far as my emphasis on failure; I don't mean to act as if I desire or seek out failure, or that you should either - I just have come to appreciate HIGH QUALITY failures. This is where you are pushing things to another level and you reach a point you don't have the skills to deal with yet, you try something you've not tried the same way before it doesn't work out... This is the "Failing better" that when practiced consistently and learned from leads to inevitable success.
When we generally fear/resist failure we don't make the attempt - we're throwing these high-quality failures out with the bathwater. You could call them instead "character development moments" or "learning moments" if you don't like the word failure. They must be seen for what they are and learned from however - otherwise, if one just wallows in negative emotions and escapism, the experience goes to waste - then it's a low-quality failure.
Doing pretty much what you've always done and getting the same results you've always gotten over and over again... that is low-quality failure and stagnation. (I'm not saying this is all you've done, I'm just pointing out the distinction).
I guess I wrote this mainly because I don't like that some of these subs are seen as total solutions to our problems - rather than a specialized tool to use along with other practices and tools to empower ourselves. I see people giving credit for everything good that happens to them to the subliminal programs they're running - as if our own intention and capability has no power without it.
There is the compelling idea of the "permission slip". That is; we use things like these subs as a way to allow ourselves permission to get past our conscious filters and fully utilize our own innate power which we've become disconnected from by the conditioning/programming of our early life experience. As long as our conscious mind can accept it's plausible - it can work. It could be a lucky rabbits foot, a magic pickup line, a prayer, a subliminal or anything really that gets past our conditioned mind and gives our subconscious permission to succeed. The placebo effect is another facet of this phenomenon
So even just the intention of doing something to help an aspect of our lives is probably helping - even if there is nothing happening under the hood but some static and water sounds... [I hope it's more than that, as otherwise we've been cleverly duped into spending 100s of dollars on these programs, when we could have found a $5 crystal to carry with us that could potentially work just as well... ]
If I'm being completely honest, I don't have any evidence (other than hearsay and the word of the producer) that its anything more than a lucky rabbits foot at this point. I tried to avoid coming here or looking at the scripts of the program to avoid the natural desire to convince my conscious mind of the plausibility of it, so that I could just judge the program on my own experience - but obviously I couldn't resist.
I'm confident it is something along the lines of what they're telling us, though I haven't experienced anything major yet, and sometimes I have doubts. In any case I'll continue with it treating it as a useful ritual for now - as just like the placebo I know it CAN work regardless.
It is reassuring that they offer refunds - and if it was a hoax, it would really have to be a very elaborate one - I'm convinced Shannon believes they work, even if they cannot possibly have been tested in any sort of rigorous empirical way other than feedback of customers (that I'm aware of).
I posted here mostly to get it off my chest and possibly get a few readers thinking in a more empowering way.
The attracting women niche was a trigger for me as I personally went deep into the whole Dating and even "PUA" thing for quite a time. I've taken many "magic pills" and hopped onboard self development fads. I tried spray on pheromones, elaborate pickup lines, etc etc. I spent tons of money and 1000s of hours on that sort of stuff and maybe .1% of it had lasting value.
What really changed things on my journey in regard to women? (incomplete list)
*Starting a daily workout habit (even 1 pushup, as long as you do more than 0)
*Working and gaining financial independence from family members.
*Learning about sexual transmutation and quitting pornography. (HUGE)
*Getting a good handle on nutrition and eating healthily.
*Conquering the half truth of nihilism with the creation of a deeply meaningful personal philosophy (perhaps difficult but extremely worthwhile)
*Focusing primarily on character growth > attracting women (see book "KING WARRIOR MAGICIAN LOVER", excellent archetypal framework of mature masculine.)
*The books "The Rational Male" and "Models: Attracting Women Through Honesty"
As far as my emphasis on failure; I don't mean to act as if I desire or seek out failure, or that you should either - I just have come to appreciate HIGH QUALITY failures. This is where you are pushing things to another level and you reach a point you don't have the skills to deal with yet, you try something you've not tried the same way before it doesn't work out... This is the "Failing better" that when practiced consistently and learned from leads to inevitable success.
When we generally fear/resist failure we don't make the attempt - we're throwing these high-quality failures out with the bathwater. You could call them instead "character development moments" or "learning moments" if you don't like the word failure. They must be seen for what they are and learned from however - otherwise, if one just wallows in negative emotions and escapism, the experience goes to waste - then it's a low-quality failure.
Doing pretty much what you've always done and getting the same results you've always gotten over and over again... that is low-quality failure and stagnation. (I'm not saying this is all you've done, I'm just pointing out the distinction).
I guess I wrote this mainly because I don't like that some of these subs are seen as total solutions to our problems - rather than a specialized tool to use along with other practices and tools to empower ourselves. I see people giving credit for everything good that happens to them to the subliminal programs they're running - as if our own intention and capability has no power without it.
There is the compelling idea of the "permission slip". That is; we use things like these subs as a way to allow ourselves permission to get past our conscious filters and fully utilize our own innate power which we've become disconnected from by the conditioning/programming of our early life experience. As long as our conscious mind can accept it's plausible - it can work. It could be a lucky rabbits foot, a magic pickup line, a prayer, a subliminal or anything really that gets past our conditioned mind and gives our subconscious permission to succeed. The placebo effect is another facet of this phenomenon
So even just the intention of doing something to help an aspect of our lives is probably helping - even if there is nothing happening under the hood but some static and water sounds... [I hope it's more than that, as otherwise we've been cleverly duped into spending 100s of dollars on these programs, when we could have found a $5 crystal to carry with us that could potentially work just as well... ]
If I'm being completely honest, I don't have any evidence (other than hearsay and the word of the producer) that its anything more than a lucky rabbits foot at this point. I tried to avoid coming here or looking at the scripts of the program to avoid the natural desire to convince my conscious mind of the plausibility of it, so that I could just judge the program on my own experience - but obviously I couldn't resist.
I'm confident it is something along the lines of what they're telling us, though I haven't experienced anything major yet, and sometimes I have doubts. In any case I'll continue with it treating it as a useful ritual for now - as just like the placebo I know it CAN work regardless.
It is reassuring that they offer refunds - and if it was a hoax, it would really have to be a very elaborate one - I'm convinced Shannon believes they work, even if they cannot possibly have been tested in any sort of rigorous empirical way other than feedback of customers (that I'm aware of).
