DMSI 3.5 Success poll

[Bignoise]

It´s been almost a month since DMSI 3.5 was published. I have read the journals, and I don't see anyone reporting "the ultimate goal" of this sub.
I know working on this sub has been frustrating sometimes for Shannon, so I don't want to hurt him, but I think we have to have this conversation sooner or later, so I created this poll.

My option was "I only have felt the increase in self steem and/or the DRS, but nothing regarding to women approaching me", and that's the only thing I can report.
The first two days (V3.4 indeed) some girls added me on IG and I noticed something, but after that, anything else

As said, this thread don't want to put pressure on Shannon or anything like it. I know he did the best he could. But if it doesn't work, I think it's better to know and maybe work with some other subs.

Thanks

[Shannon]

I don't think you really can know if it works right now. During a pandemic, socializing enough is going to be a serious issue. Furthermore, I suspect you may not have run through the various potential number of loops to use yet. And finally, what is this poll going to tell you? Nobody's reporting, and that seems to be because nobody's getting results. Is that because they're not exposed to enough people? Not using enough loops? Something else? So you're wasting your time. If you've run through 1-9 loops per day on in Ultrasonic and Hybrid, and still got nothing, then just do something else.

There is nothing more I can do with DMSI. I can't make it more advanced than I know how to and I can't release it without having the safeties in place because everyone's gone bat-shit crazy. That leaves usage patterns and volume of people to fiddle with, and if that's not doing it, there's literally nothing else I can do.

[Omni3]

Not journaling on this so I'll put this here.

I ran one cycle of 3.4 and then switched to 3.5. (TS Masked FLAC- bedside speakers - quite loud) Increased on loop per cycle to arrive at 3 loops per evening on, with 1 day off per cycle.

About a week into 3.4 I came within a hair's breath... I was invited by a woman back to a hotel for after pub drinks. There was a tube strike the next day and I would've been struggling to get home the next day across London to make a midday appointment so I declined. 

I got my tube home out East, upon arriving home I decided I would jump in my car and drive to the other side of London at 1am... about 40 minutes or so drive and 'continue to party.' (btw I was drinking only tea..). I texted my male friend who was at the hotel in question to tell him I'm on my way and he said they would all be asleep by the time I arrived.

My male friend was contacting me before Xmas & New Years with a view to invite me for the drinks so I can continue where I left off with his friend, the woman in question. I had a very sore throat so had to decline the invite. This woman once had a short dance with me years ago when I was using pheromones..I guess I lacked the skillset to close the deal back then. This time I came very close..

Additionally I'll say that the self growth I'm experiencing on DMSI 3.5 is phenomenal. Its become my new favourite sub.

I'm getting deer in headlights effects pretty much everywhere I go. I went to the shopping centre/mall last week with my sister. Whilst there, to me this wasn't just Celebrity Effect, this was more like I was an International Rock Star.I literally was not looking to make eye contact with anyone as I was getting so many looks. I now truly understand how an International Rockstar feels.

Its like I'm walking around in a love bubble, and everyone is feeling it around me and wanting to connect with this energy (semen retention helps...).

As I was driving on Monday, to my right I noticed a crow was flying in synch with my movement - like we were flying as one.

I've been looking at event listings and shall be attending events and will socialise more.

Another woman in a 'meet up" group, I felt the energy flooding with her and I feel like I'm falling in love with her. Should be in another group meeting with her in a week or so...

For me, this is a phenomenal sub.

I have no neediness at all. Its only a matter of time now for me...

In the meantime, keep up the good work @Shannon

[AbundanceCH]

Shannon, what I think would help the situation is to have more variety in the attract women department meaning work on some normal attract women subs with the latest tech. Right now DMSI is the only thing available.

By that I mean a woman magnet/sex magnet/aura of sexiness/overcome approach anxiety (hopefully all single stage). Subs that work to change your programming rather than affect others like DMSI which of course is radical technology that still needs time to develop.

[Shannon]

Shannon, what I think would help the situation is to have more variety in the attract women department meaning work on some normal attract women subs with the latest tech.  Right now DMSI is the only thing available.

By that I mean a woman magnet/sex magnet/aura of sexiness/overcome approach anxiety (hopefully all single stage).  Subs that work to change your programming rather than affect others like DMSI which of course is radical technology that still needs time to develop.

I have a few things I need to take care of before I start working in that direction, but I'll take a look at that when we are done with these things.  Whatever I build will be single stage, because multi-stage is too complex to build right now.

[Lowe]

I assume some of us are running DMSI without keeping a journal here. If so, can you update us on your results with DMSI so far?

I am very interested to see how it is working, how many loops are you running, and especially whether results change over time.

I will make my own update soon.

Thank you all in advance.

[Shannon]

I have noted that even for guys for whom it is working, they're relatively often not counting successes as successes.

[Omni3]

Not journaling on this so I'll put this here.

I ran one cycle of 3.4 and then switched to 3.5. (TS Masked FLAC- bedside speakers - quite loud) Increased on loop per cycle to arrive at 3 loops per evening on, with 1 day off per cycle.

About a week into 3.4 I came within a hair's breath... I was invited by a woman back to a hotel for after pub drinks. There was a tube strike the next day and I would've been struggling to get home the next day across London to make a midday appointment so I declined. 

I got my tube home out East, upon arriving home I decided I would jump in my car and drive to the other side of London at 1am... about 40 minutes or so drive and 'continue to party.' (btw I was drinking only tea..). I texted my male friend who was at the hotel in question to tell him I'm on my way and he said they would all be asleep by the time I arrived.

My male friend was contacting me before Xmas & New Years with a view to invite me for the drinks so I can continue where I left off with his friend, the woman in question. I had a very sore throat so had to decline the invite. This woman once had a short dance with me years ago when I was using pheromones..I guess I lacked the skillset to close the deal back then. This time I came very close..

Additionally I'll say that the self growth I'm experiencing on DMSI 3.5 is phenomenal. Its become my new favourite sub.

I'm getting deer in headlights effects pretty much everywhere I go. I went to the shopping centre/mall last week with my sister. Whilst there, to me this wasn't just Celebrity Effect, this was more like I was an International Rock Star.I literally was not looking to make eye contact with anyone as I was getting so many looks. I now truly understand how an International Rockstar feels.

Its like I'm walking around in a love bubble, and everyone is feeling it around me and wanting to connect with this energy (semen retention helps...).

As I was driving on Monday, to my right I noticed a crow was flying in synch with my movement - like we were flying as one.

I've been looking at event listings and shall be attending events and will socialise more.

Another woman in a 'meet up" group, I felt the energy flooding with her and I feel like I'm falling in love with her. Should be in another group meeting with her in a week or so...

For me, this is a phenomenal sub.

I have no neediness at all. Its only a matter of time now for me...

In the meantime, keep up the good work @Shannon

Reflecting on this now I realise I didn't lack the skillset after the dance years ago. I didn't follow through out of respect for my friend - as I wasn't certain whether they were still an item. Also logistics was an issue as I was staying at his house overnight.

[Shannon]

My personal experience with DMSI v3.5 was that I was only able to run it for 3 days on. On that 3rd day I found myself openly flirting with two different females right in front of my girlfriend, and girlfriend didn't realize it, while the other two were eating it up. I realized then that I had to stop or I would end up destroying my relationship because it worked too well. Fascinatingly, GF didn't want me to stop because she loved how it felt to and affected her. It made our relationship more loving and definitely more sexual and passionate.

DMSI v4 has proven to be quite interesting, and v5 is planned for 6G and should be pretty interesting. I am still determining whether or not I'll be making it with or without FRM, but if I do, there will be an A/B with and without. They will be sold separately, though. The results I have gotten from the models make me lean towards no FRM option so far. But I think either way it's going to be very interesting.

[MagicalAlchemist]

From a DMSI user, here’s my personal perspective:

The country I live in is very conservative, combined with programming from TikTok or Instagram about w**e culture. Women here tend to be more judgmental towards men, often seeing them as perverse, weird, or using the popular slang "just a dick capital."

I have to be cautious when flirting openly here. If I meet a crazy woman, she could use her reputation to tarnish mine through social media, and my family could suffer from social consequences.

It's very different from European or US countries where individualism is highly valued. Here, the majority still hold onto herd/mob mentality and a "holier than thou" attitude. A deadly combo, to be honest—like the dark ages of Europe.

Southeast Asia is a different breed (except Thailand, maybe Philippines too). Women here are often hypocritical—they dislike being treated as sluts or whores in public, but in private, that attitude can change (you can use methods like money, status, public recognition, or none of the three).

Playing the victim card is their last resort when they don’t get what they’re after (a position, money, or recognition).

Right timing, right place, and the right woman are the keys to success with women (DMSI increases the chances of these three variables).

There are so many factors why DMSI may or may not work.

[Frosted]

I haven’t used DMSI in a lot of years, or any attraction products for that matter. But one reason I believe the hits never went anywhere is my communication has been lacking. Girls would lose interest after things fizzled out because I would never do anything, or after they threw themselves at me I wouldn’t capitalize on it.

That doesn’t just mean “closing”, but also the natural communication and dance of a man and a woman. I was in too much pain and too traumatized to have the natural faculties that naturally lead to the inevitable conclusion of a man and woman attracted to each other. How could I expect for that to happen when I could barely be in conversations with anyone, let alone a woman without being in pain, anxious, or apathetic (all stemming from blockages and emotional damage).

My advice to most men who come here is to focus on healing and overcoming blockages, and basic self development like self esteem, confidence, self validation etc. These fundamental building blocks are the most important thing, and something you’re going to need not just for women, but for everything else in your life. Of course most men who need this advice will ignore it, but hopefully at least a couple take it to heart. OGSF, EPHRA, AM, SD etc are all good titles to focus your base.

If you’ve used attraction products in the past and are tired of getting hits but no results, then I recommend taking my advice and spending a couple years focusing on your base. You may lament at the “waste of time”, but I assure you it is worth it. The reality is that most guys are probably “wasting” their time getting hits with no results when using these programs anyways, so you might as well “waste” your time focusing on the basics.

[ReconGunner]

My advice to most men who come here is to focus on healing and overcoming blockages, and basic self development like self esteem, confidence, self validation etc. These fundamental building blocks are the most important thing, and something you’re going to need not just for women, but for everything else in your life. Of course most men who need this advice will ignore it, but hopefully at least a couple take it to heart. OGSF, EPHRA, AM, SD etc are all good titles to focus your base.

If you’ve used attraction products in the past and are tired of getting hits but no results, then I recommend taking my advice and spending a couple years focusing on your base. You may lament at the “waste of time”, but I assure you it is worth it. The reality is that most guys are probably “wasting” their time getting hits with no results when using these programs anyways, so you might as well “waste” your time focusing on the basics.

Concur.

1. Most or all of us need to heal before we can be a healthy relationship partner. Whether that is friendship, FWB, romance, or even finding mentorship. There's a sequence that has been discussed recently; I believe it goes EHPRA - OGSF - SD. Of those, I've only done EHPRA, and v5 of that one, but it was tremendously beneficial. I think that sequence is a fantastic idea, and especially for those who have struggled with results.
2. I'm going out on a limb here. We will get better results from DMSI, et. al., if we are more healed and have that "base". Absent that, the outward presentation, conscious and subconscious, may attract the attention we want, but if there's nothing underneath the attention will fade rapidly.

TL;DR
First, build your "base". EPHRA-OGF-SD, in that order, is recommended for that purpose. If there no "there" there, they will look elsewhere.