DMSI 3.3.2 discussion panel

[Shannon]

Puff dose make a point, There is something to be said in that it's got to be a way around what's blocking dmsi from working. Like this new version dose work it is moving in the right direction. It just need constant updates and adjustments to get to the point of something that works. And in works something that can do more than just grab attention which it dose awesomely. My two since that all power should be putting into aura and snipers with no filters or blockers or anti-sniper to get it working and getting to have a noticeable effect on people and making them take action. I think as it stands right now it brings them to the point where if i wanted to i could push it into having sex and again it should be they should be the one taking action. All this is well known, it is like Shannon said i do think given enough time something might happen after 3 months maybe. It's still too weak to see alot of noticeable changes. I will say this as just a celebrity effect sub, the effects of the celebrity effect is stunning in that area. now if only the sex part could catch up.

You're mistaking power with configuration.  It currently has plenty of power to accomplish its goals.  The true problem we have now is that we aren't yet finished configuring the parts that unleash the full flow of that power (FRM) and point it in the right direction in exactly the right ways (AOSI).

The power is put entirely into the aura and the snipers.  The parts that prevent you from doing things with the program that would get it taken off the market forcibly don't "take any power" or "take away any power".  And the anti-sniper is turned off.  

As for there being a way around what's blocking DMSI from working, there isn't.  We either find a way to turn off the fear, or we go back to 4G levels of power that don't have your full potential for results on display.  I have tried every possible way to get around fear and even tried methods that should shut down or get around "something else in the way besides fear".  Doesn't work.  It is turn around and go home, or slay the dragon.  

We are closer to finished than you probably realize.

[DarkPlouf]

If you "don't believe in resistance" while resisting the execution of the majority of programs, what does that logically get you? A free pass to blame someone or something else for the lack of result? It's not you resisting because there's no such thing? Maybe if you accepted the idea of fear based resistance, it would lead to something that you're afraid of, like discovering how to execute? Logically, if I set in front of you a set of instructions and you refuse to execute them, you are resisting the execution of those subliminals.

YOU ARE RESISTING WHEN YOU REFUSE TO EXECUTE THE SCRIPT.

So, notwithstanding self delusion and/or self deception, resistance logically does exist, it is logically within plain view of all of us, and it is logically a response to fear (at some level) of the results of executing.

Your point of view on this can only come from irrational thinking and some degree of self deception. Self deception is a form of resistance that is used by the irrational subconscious to defend itself from a perceived threat. Deception being the reverse of truth, and there being a polarity here where a thing is either true or false, we can safely presume in response that the deception is an attempt to defend from the truth. And logically, the truth is, executing the script would achieve something that some deep and instinctual part of you believes is a threat to it's existence, and therefore something to be feared and resisted at any cost. Therefore, it must deceive your conscious mind into believing that "there is no such thing as resistance" because you can't change what you believe doesn't exist.

This is kinda weird.
You're talking with the assumption that resistance does exist as you describe it but the thing is only you seem to know about it. I do not see any explanation. It's like saying that the sky is green because I said so and calling it a fact.
What you're calling a fact is hardly one. I mean, to anyone else this is more a hypothesis than a fact. Especially with something as abstract as the subconscious mind.

This is curious you're talking about being rational and stuff, but you can't call a fact something only you seem to know and understand with certainty. If I ask a resistance-believer on this forum to prove me resistance exists, nobody would be able to. But a fact is, quoted from the dictionary, a thing that is known or proved to be true. Is resistance proven? What are the proofs? Can you prove that some parts of the subC fear to the point of refusing suggestions and even do the opposite of what's instructed? How do you know it's reversal resistance and not just tiredness, or a mere coincidence? Can you even prove the subC has "parts"? Where are the empirical pieces of evidence? Let's not be dogmatic. Resistance is a hypothesis at best, a possible answer to the lack of results for some subs, yes, but not a fact.

I mean, you can't just invent a concept and call it a fact when asked for explanations.

I hope you see where I am coming from. I was more interested in what led you to that whole concept of resistance rather than if resistance (to the extent you believe in) exists or not. I wanted to understand you and your actions, as parts of the concern I shared. If my memories serve right, you plan to release a book someday on your work. So I think you should be able to explain to others what led to the actions you took and the beliefs about how the subconscious struggles with your products. So far one "proof" about resistance seems to be "Shannon said so, so it must be true".
If you're a rational person you should know this is not an acceptable answer.

Anyway, from your answer, I get that what lead you to this concept is the years and years on working with subliminal programs and wanting it to work for everybody. So I think a forum post would probably not be enough for you to explain what led you to that, and for me to understand you, so maybe we should leave it as that. But I still wanted to understand.

Soooo, about your approach, I think we'd just have to wait and see. I was concerned because results really dropped as soon as you went all-in against resistance but you seem to be so sure about that path. I tried to understand your line of thought but failed so I think all that's left for me to do is wait and see.

[Shannon]

If you "don't believe in resistance" while resisting the execution of the majority of programs, what does that logically get you?  A free pass to blame someone or something else for the lack of result?  It's not you resisting because there's no such thing?  Maybe if you accepted the idea of fear based resistance, it would lead to something that you're afraid of, like discovering how to execute?  Logically, if I set in front of you a set of instructions and you refuse to execute them, you are resisting the execution of those subliminals.  

YOU ARE RESISTING WHEN YOU REFUSE TO EXECUTE THE SCRIPT.

So, notwithstanding self delusion and/or self deception, resistance logically does exist, it is logically within plain view of all of us, and it is logically a response to fear (at some level) of the results of executing.

Your point of view on this can only come from irrational thinking and some degree of self deception.  Self deception is a form of resistance that is used by the irrational subconscious to defend itself from a perceived threat.  Deception being the reverse of truth, and there being a polarity here where a thing is either true or false, we can safely presume in response that the deception is an attempt to defend from the truth.  And logically, the truth is, executing the script would achieve something that some deep and instinctual part of you believes is a threat to it's existence, and therefore something to be feared and resisted at any cost.  Therefore, it must deceive your conscious mind into believing that "there is no such thing as resistance" because you can't change what you believe doesn't exist.

This is kinda weird.
You're talking with the assumption that resistance does exist as you describe it but the thing is only you seem to know about it. I do not see any explanation. It's like saying that the sky is green because I said so and calling it a fact.
What you're calling a fact is hardly one. I mean, to anyone else this is more a hypothesis than a fact. Especially with something as abstract as the subconscious mind.

If you do not see any explanation then you are having a problem following my logic.  The explanation is:

1. When properly presented to the subconscious mind, an instruction will be executed.
2. We established how to properly present a statement to the subconscious mind in 1, 2, 3, 4G.
3. We then discovered that as we presented it better and better, the execution became less and less in some cases.
4. Following the evidence led us to conclude that the refusal to execute (resistance) was resulting from fear.
5. Various different approaches have been tried to deal with this, including increasing power, polymorphism, and many others.  Most approaches have had some benefit, but did not by themselves (or completely) resolve the problem.  
6. The logical thing to do is build a staircase of small steps to the solution.  When each step is built, we observe what happens and then use that information to build the next step and make progress.

That is how we arrived at 5G, 5.5G, and now 5.75G.

There is no question that resistance exists.  If you are not executing the script, you are, as I demonstrated above, resisting by definition.  That has been clearly and plainly established, and that is why I say, if you can't see it, the problem is in you not following the logic.  

It's black or white: the subconscious will always execute an instruction it understands which is properly presented and is possible to execute unless it perceives a threat from executing or achieving the goal of the instruction.  If it's not executing, then one of the following must be true:

A) The instruction is not being understood.
B) The instruction is not possible to execute.
C) The subconscious mind perceives a threat from executing it and achieving the goal of the instruction.

We established that my scripting methods satisfy requirements A and B in previous generations, leaving us with option C, which we have repeatedly demonstrated in case after case is the real issue.

Therefore, if the instruction is not being executed, then it is triggering fear, and consequently, resistance.  If you can't follow that, the problem here isn't me or my research.

Furthermore, we have DMSI 3.3.2 and ARA and LFC and Awakener and all are 5.75G.  ARA gets rave reviews.  LFC gets rave reviews.  Awakener works extremely well.  And DMSI 3.3.2 people are still struggling on.

All of them use the same skeleton script, and all of them have FRM 4.8 enabled.  Only DMSI is being resisted.  Logic tells us therefore that the goal of the program is not triggering resistance if it is being executed, and is triggering resistance as a result of fear when it is being resisted.  I don't know how to make it any plainer than that.

This is curious you're talking about being rational and stuff, but you can't call a fact something only you seem to know and understand with certainty. If I ask a resistance-believer on this forum to prove me resistance exists, nobody would be able, but a fact is, quoted from the dictionary, a thing that is known or proved to be true. Is resistance proven? What are the proofs? Let's not be dogmatic.

I suspect we are dealing with an irrational thinker here.  It is plainly obvious to anyone who comprehends what I said in my first response, and above, that my facts are indeed facts.  The real reason that nobody can prove the existence to you is the same reason Flat Earthers refuse to believe all the facts presented to disprove their argument also, which is: you choose to refuse to accept any argument that disagrees with your argument.  That is an irrational response, and a choice to refuse to see what is there, and the only reason to do it stems, ultimately from fear.  This is Type 4 (Self Deception), Type 5 (Self Delusion) and Type 14 (Refusal To See Reality) resistance.

By refusing to accept any evidence as valid, you always have an excuse to maintain your position, and therefore "can't be persuaded".  I've already laid out plenty of reasonable, logical evidence.  The rest is up to you.  But this argument only shows that you are too scared of the truth to allow yourself to see and agree with anything that would prove you wrong.  Which means it's useless to even argue my point.

I hope you see where I am coming from. I was more interested in what led you to that whole concept of resistance rather than if resistance (to the extent you believe in) exists or not. I wanted to understand you and your actions, as parts of the concern I shared. If my memories serve right, you plan to release a book someday on your work. So I think you should be able to explain to others what led to the actions you took and the beliefs about how the subconscious struggles with your products. So far one "proof" about resistance seems to be "Shannon said so, so it must be true".

If you're a rational person you should know this is not an acceptable answer.

I believe I have explained what led me to my whole concept of resistance many times on the forum, including at least once in the last two exchanges with you here.

As for the book, it's not going to be a book that is released to the public, and this argument we are having is at least half of why.  People would not understand it, and in not understanding it, they would use and implement it in unsafe ways.  The other half of why is that this knowledge is too dangerous in the wrong hands.  That book will be passed down to my protege.  One and only one copy will exist.

Your personal inability and/or refusal to see or accept what I have said, and the logic behind it, isn't my problem.  You assume that "the subconscious struggles with my products", when the reality is that some people hold beliefs that contradict their achievement of the goals because it would require them to face their fears.  Some of these fears are common (apparently sex is one of those) and some are not.  That is why some people execute a given program, and some do not.  Your personal experience is not the end-all be-all of "what is".  Neither is your point of view.  A rational person would have known that already.  

Anyway, from  your answer, I get that what lead you to this concept is the years and years on working with subliminal programs and wanting it to work for everybody. So I think a forum post would probably not be enough for you to explain what led you to that, and for me to understand you, so maybe we should leave it as that. But I still wanted to understand.

What is there left to understand?  Everything I have done, every change I have made, every thing I do, every method I use, every technology I have developed, all of them have resulted from experiments and using what does work vs what does not work.  

That, of course, is not going to be understood.  You can't see the script, so you're going to try to counter my argument with, "But if what you're doing works, then why aren't all the subs achieving their goals?" The answer is that what doesn't work is how to solve the root of the problem.  The only thing we have been doing since 2012 really is trying to figure out what the root of the problem is and solve it.

The root of the problem is that as you create more and more powerful and effective subliminals you reach deeper and deeper parts of the subconscious, which have (in some cases) less and less ability to understand things with anything but emotion and instinct.  The source of fear comes from a part of your awareness that is so primitive that it's like trying to convince a lizard to do what you want.  The key is that that part of you is trying to preserve itself (and you) because it understands things in such basic terms that any threat is apparently seen as "life or death".  And apparently, certain changes are classified as a threat.

Ultimately, the challenge is in understanding how to effectively communicate with that part of you that actually generates fear.  It is a vastly different challenge than what you might think.  

Soooo, about your approach, I think we'd just have to wait and see. I was concerned because results really dropped as soon as you went all-in against resistance but you seem to be so sure about that path. I tried to understand your line of thought but failed so I think all that's left for me to do is wait and see.

Results dropped as soon as I went all in against resistance because it triggered a fear that the defenses that "keep you alive" (read: prevent change) would be breached.  Because what I was doing was able to create that change.  Which is logically why effort and response and fear had to be generated to act against it, to stop that success.  There is no other reason for that response.

I think that you should stick with subliminals that work for you.  There's really no point to you using mine of you're not interested in the process of helping to develop them.  There will be no need for that once this is finished.  At that time, I'll just build out the library in 6G and you can take it (if it works for you) or leave it (if not).  But it seems to me that you're just interested in trying to make subtle attacks on me and my methods here.  Logic dictates that rational people use what works for them, unless they're trying to help develop something that doesn't work into something that does.

So pick one.

[Have at ye]

The term "resistance" (as translated into English by auntie Annie Freud, I don't remember the original German at this time) was first coined and used in the context of the unconscious by daddy Freud pre-World War I in the course of his psychoanalytic shenanigans, as far as I know (maybe someone used this term, or something similar, before him, I can't really say).

He noticed that his patients would often look for creative ways and go to great lengths to try to disprove or disbelieve what came up in the course of analysis (and sometimes even disagree with him just because, which annoyed him to no end, such a daddy he was ), especially when something repressed or anxiety-inducing would start coming up, as well as seemingly accept certain ideas and concepts in the course of one session, and then apparently "completely forget about them" when the next session would occur.

Funnily enough, I'm noticing multiple instances of resistance reactions in daddy Freud's post-analysis musings that are eerily similar to the "types of resistance" delineated in Shannon's thread on the subject on these here, forums, heh.

Whether you can call it a "fact" is debatable, but it certainly would appear to be a phenomenon of some sort.

[DarkPlouf]

The term "resistance" (as translated into English by auntie Annie Freud, I don't remember the original German at this time) was first coined and used in the context of the unconscious by daddy Freud pre-World War I in the course of his psychoanalytic shenanigans, as far as I know (maybe someone used this term, or something similar, before him, I can't really say).

He noticed that his patients would often look for creative ways and go to great lengths to try to disprove or disbelieve what came up in the course of analysis (and sometimes even disagree with him just because, which annoyed him to no end, such a daddy he was ), especially when something repressed or anxiety-inducing would start coming up, as well as seemingly accept certain ideas and concepts in the course of one session, and then apparently "completely forget about them" when the next session would occur.

Funnily enough, I'm noticing multiple instances of resistance reactions in daddy Freud's post-analysis musings that are eerily similar to the "types of resistance" delineated in Shannon's thread on the subject on these here, forums, heh.

Whether you can call it a "fact" is debatable, but it certainly would appear to be a phenomenon of some sort.

This is the kind of information I wanted to see. Thanks for sharing. That's something I can search and document myself on.
Shannon, as you can see, it's possible to convey ideas without calling the other person irrational and think of them as dumb. For the record, I didn't read your last reply. There is no need to resort to personal attack when trying to convince someone.
I wish you the best, regardless.

[Shannon]

I won't waste my time replying to you in the future then.

[Benjamin]

This is the kind of information I wanted to see. Thanks for sharing. That's something I can search and document myself on.
Shannon, as you can see, it's possible to convey ideas without calling the other person irrational and think of them as dumb. For the record, I didn't read your last reply. There is no need to resort to personal attack when trying to convince someone.
I wish you the best, regardless.

I really love it how you address Shannon quite rudely in some of your posts, THEN accuse him of 'personal attacks'. I read the same replies you did and seen no personal attacks towards you. Shannon had quite a detailed, well thought out argument against some very unusual 'logic' you were displaying in your original posts. And you had nothing back, no real arguments other than "Shannon you're making this up, nobody else has ever heard of it" so in the end you default to the old "Stop the personal attacks". Which is a lie, because nothing of the sort was done.

Also, Shannon 'made up' resistance? This to me sounds like you don't really believe that but just randomly pop up like several other times to start arguments or that you've been living in a cave and never read anything about self development in your life.

Resistance and similar things, the parts of you that come up and 'resist' at times when you're trying to make changes, fear, whatever else it might be.. is something i've come across quite a bit in self development, other methods and such.

Even more if this concept you're saying Shannon just made up didn't exist, then you wouldn't need anything at all to change, you wouldn't need subliminals, or other ways of working with your subconscious. You could just decide to change and that's it.

So it makes no sense the arguments you're presenting. This isn't the first time you've popped up just to start arguments, when also you aren't even contributing to the forum any other time, having a journal for constructive feedback or anything, just this.

[Hatman]

@Shannon, it must be quite disheartening when you put so much effort into a post and then have almost everyone read it except for the person for whom it was intended. I understand the need to defend oneself in an argument, but to flat out avoid hearing the other side is on a whole new level.

I liked your flat earth example. It's sad to see such behavior be so common out there.

I hope that you don't feel dissuaded to continue putting effort into your posts because I for one enjoy reading them

[Shannon]

@Shannon,  it must be quite disheartening when you put so much effort into a post and then have almost everyone read it except for the person for whom it was intended. I understand the need to defend oneself in an argument, but to flat out avoid hearing the other side is on a whole new level.

I liked your flat earth example. It's sad to see such behavior be so common out there.

I hope that you don't feel dissuaded to continue putting effort into your posts because I for one enjoy reading them

If the agenda is not getting to the truth, but getting attention or riling someone up or subtle advertising for a competitor, then the logical argument and truth need not be important.  In his case, he displays "argument" tactics that basically admit that he can't win using logic, so he had to change the rules by ignoring my arguments, denying my arguments and even refusing to read my posts.  

It's again much like the flat earthers: their real agenda isn't believing in the flat earth, it's getting attention and preserving their chosen beliefs that contradict the facts and riling people up and feeling special.  You can't argue with them because they don't want an argument for the sake of determining what the facts are - which is traditionally what argument is about.  They want something else that they simply use "I believe in the flat earth theory" to get, which happens when people try to explain, educate, argue, etc.

Such people are willfully ignorant and they are welcome to it.  My time is too valuable to waste on such minds.

[Greenduck]

Shannon I’ve believe in you for what that matter. Your subliminals have showed me that there is a life beyond what I though life was. I’m still struggling with fear, but I’m working actively on overcoming it. I didn’t read your full posts but I agree that fear is a beast with tentacles as you put it. I love going to raves and dancing, it’s in some way a medium to release fear for me. A training in being present. Today when going it though during my dance that fear is a fear about what’s beyond fear. Beyond fear in our ability to be present isn’t more fear, but just stillness and love I think, but I only can phantom this, and it isn’t really heping. But I’m still working on overcoming fear as I know that life beyond it will be free to a degree I can’t really know now, only have an idea about, and that idea is one food one.

[Greenduck]

I saw a video about eg death with Jordan Peterson where he is paraphrasing Jung and it got me thinking about fear and the fear I’ve been facing in the last 3 years or so. A fear in interactions with others, both in myself but in them too, and I couldn’t pin it down, what was causing it? Loosing your ego is scary as hel, because you loose your medium to relate to the world and other people. Your dad isn’t your dad anymore, he is just an animal. It sound ridiculous maybe, but when faced with that perspective, where you don’t have the medium to translate his physical presence to the historical meaning of your relationship, is terrifying. So a part of the fear maybe stems from the same branch so to speak. The fear of loosing your way to relate to things and be faced with pure awareness, if you are not in tune with your sole/self, then that interaction has no medium, but will just be two unconscious animals meeting each other, hence the fear, and hence that you can on the opposite feel very safe with some people as their awareness stretch to a deeper level, beyond the regular consciousness of the ego.

Just though I would share my experiences as you were talking about the origin of fear and the though came to me when hearing about Jungs thoughts about it.

[IAMSNAKE]

Dear Shannon and all others. 

It's been a while since I last posted and made a significant contribution to the forums. I loved ASC, AOS, manifest you perfect romantic lover, and AM 4G. I didn't like at all the first version of LM (does nothing, really) and US (Just hype, nothing tangible). 

I also have Pose but like never been able to use on a GF. 

Getting back to Shannon's post on fear, fear is as old as life is. It is a survival instinct, imprinted into our DNA. The fear from getting results could be part of the hype itself the subliminal is causing. Let's admit it but something as simple as ARA cannot be compared to something as powerful as DMSI. Sure, most guys here are losers (in the process of becoming winners and fighting not only social programming, but even biology and the laws of nature themselves) myself included. We weren't born with looks or even brains maybe.

What Shannon has done proves that you can fight biology, get girls to prefer essence over looks if properly done and even get a whimp to spend a night with the woman of his dreams just like in a Hollywood movie, or even better, sleep with ten of them in a month or even a week.

Nowadays, we know the cost of everything and disregard its value. You still need to go to a club and pick the chicks yourself. Shannon's subs make other subs taste like water... Crap! They helped me a lot.. From not having respect from anyone to everyone respecting me whether they liked it or not, being respected and even noticed by women and I have got no game at all and still about two months, I was teaching a course (classroom) filled with only women and I wasn't even nervous, they felt my alpha male aura and sexiness. And also I went from being peniless to have a good deal of money, not rich but motivation faded away, fear of success, envy and jealousy or fear of money settled in and now I am stuck. I am finally over my GF (she left me eight years ago and could not get past that and being as stubborn as I am I didn't buy a subliminal for that). AM helped a lot but it is not for that. So, I want to start dating and getting laid and fast. I wanna feel attractive and irresistible because I met a girl whose looks can only be compared to those of Amber Heard and on the inside she is super nice!!!  She looks like Cameron Diaz on The Mask but way prettier! 

Getting back to DMSI I think the goal itself goes as far as going from Earth to the other side of the Universe riding on a horse that goes at 80 km per hour and still expecting to get there in less than five years. Even though the believer can achieve anything or "almost everything" in reality, the goal itself is way too promising. And finding only one hicup, it's no reason for a lot of concern. True, the horse just run at light speed and now it's FRM v8 or sorry, whatever version it is now, seems to have brought back the horse to running at 80 km per hour is a bit of a hiccup.... 

Instead of criticizing, please multiply the law of attraction. Shannon once told me it works to the power of two. So, if like 10 of us think positively, then his efforts, time and probably the solution will arrive 100 times sooner, better or more elegant or a combination of all of them 100 times.

And yes, personally I think the title not only does try to accomplish something already insane by itself but also tries to shift reality itself. He wants to improve an already amazing title (sadly no longer available to me),  and wants to make it available to everyone regardless of their social value and honestly.... Fighting DNA, self-image, self-appreciation, self-worth, and yet their social versions is still a long road ahead... I wish Shannon success!  And sooner or later he will, and he needs all of our positive thoughts and wishes... Coz seriously... A meeting with a hooker in Colombia, a nice one is at least 100 bucks in Colombia for two hours. In the USA you get cramps and AIDS for that money, plus you didn't get the chicks and now you do and didn't spend money on Speed seduction courses, spend 100s of dollars clubbing and dating, etc. Shannon is the answer to "I want it now and I want it easy!!" Of course, I would prefer to spend my initial 100 or so dollars on DMSI, MLS or UMS. What do you guys suggest and Shannon, if you read this post? ... Sorry I don't know how to hash tag you, but input will be highly appreciated, at least the one of the three that runs best. 

So, if I had real issues to deal with like a very deep insecurity, yes, I would use LTU, but thanks to many subs I am past that, not entirely but mostly..... And after my last break up with a girlfriend, my love life has sucked and I need a confidence booster with women, or even get back at learning which has cost me a lot of effort and energy lately because I lost motivation, or even yet get my business back on track with UMS coz as I achieved goals, envy and jealousy inadvertently settled in my mind and now I see everyone as a threat... I know that as money starts flowing in and I stop thinking about my blockages, things will run smoothly again. 

The mind works in subtle, unpredictable and sometimes unexpected ways... 

DMSI sounds like the holy grail of subliminals, even more than BAMM I think. Turning a nerd with epilepsy and mental disorders who lacks looks and confidence and get him to pick more women than Brad Pitt and have sex with them? I mean, the very sentence sounds like an oxymoron! That is DMSI! 

And again, your insights and opinions on helping me choose the one of the three (UMS, DMSI or MLS) that works best will be appreciated. 

CARLOS MOSQUERA

[Shannon]

Congratulations, IAMSNAKE, you win the Gold medal for most rules ever broken in a single post.

You have broken rule 4 in two different places in that post, and in two different ways. Nobody has ever done that before. And you also break Rule 2. Please go back and correct these infractions.

As for "Turning a nerd with epilepsy and mental disorders who lacks looks and confidence and get him to pick more women than Brad Pitt and have sex with them", DMSI is designed to do the best it can with what it is working with. That doesn't mean someone who rates a 1/10 is going to suddenly be perceived as a 9 or 10. DMSI, when executed, can cause others to perceive you between 2 and 4 points higher on the scale, but 9 points higher is beyond reason. It also isn't designed to get you to pick up women, it's designed to get those affected to try to pick you up. No matter what I do, there is still going to be a limit, regardless of what I design the program to do. I find it hard to believe you guys can come up with ideas like this. Just because I design it to accomplish a specific goal does not necessarily mean that goal is possible for everyone to achieve. I think it's possible for the majority to achieve amazing things, but let's face it, it's going to require blatant mind control (or a lot of money) to get a perfect 10 to have sex with someone who looks like Stephen Hawking did when he died. The design goal is to achieve the design goals for as many people as possible, but I'm not going to take away people's free will.

[Benjamin]

I feel that having joined 9 years ago, that's quite alot of time for you to know the rules of the forum.