(05-07-2015, 05:17 PM)CatMan Wrote: I've said this before, and it got hated on by some but I stand by it, as the proof is on the forum. The "useful negative" is needed for the growing process. Shannon before has used that phrase too, so I know he knows the same thing. Also, there's a marked difference in result in these programs I've seen, between guys who have used this tapping stuff or other things interfering with the programs, and guys who haven't. Ones who have, typically have mixed or anti-climatic runs and have ups and downs and never really seem to make progress with respect. And ones who only used the program as designed and intended, typically more often have solid runs that are fairly in line with the programming. Don't believe my words, go and look for yourself. The spirited debate of such, was a contributing factor to a veteran member being banned recently, so clearly it's a hot topic.
Me personally, I think Shannon should or will, eventually revise the instructions to ban any other form of programming or whatever else, during the use of the program.
Bottom line, I know everyone wants results as quick as possible. I think in the case of tapping and all this other stuff, it's simply too many cooks in the kitchen.
As I said before, which you which you conveniently ignored, correlation is not equal to causation. The 'proof' you speak of, is correlative data, which is not proof at all, it is observing that the people who are doing the clearing with subs seem to be getting less results. Are the people attracted to the clearing methods more resistant naturally? Do they perhaps have deeper garbage that would cause them to have sub-par results even without the clearing? Shannon even said that the optimus engine might get people to do more stuff to speed up self-growth, so that could certainly support that theory. Point is, its all just speculation. Your theory is as good as anyone else's. There'd have to be a large enough sample size, and two equally large groups with one doing clearing and one not, for the results to have any sort of validity. Everyone here is just guessing, and both sides think they're right, but its kind of pointless because they're all opinions. If you wanna clear then clear, if you don't then don't, but we all need to stop telling others what they should do.
Turning super saiyan.
