CHAOSVRGN (DMSI v2.5)

[SargeMaximus]

You know, I never thought I'd be saying this... but I'm a bit with some of Sarge's principles right now. I've been thinking about this all day. In my travels around the U.S., I've met and worked with tons of millionaires and a few billionaires. Tons of men that get laid all the time and have massive amounts of power. And that's where I want to be.

And you know what? None of them are zen.
ALL of them have a threatening edge.

And women and society eat it up. They do what they want. The world is their playground. I've tried to be zen and docile throughout all my 20's and it really didn't do shit for me. Now, I'm heading into my 30's, where I SHOULD be at my prime, and I look at all I lost trying to be "zen" and "docile."

Zen, in it's purity, is about going with the flow of what works. It was in fact through Zen that I realized that "being zen" didn't work lol. Funny how that turned out.

The "zen" (or, the "way") of being successful with women and money IS to be that edgy asshole.

That's the closest I've been able to understand it.

[ffaux]

The question you're not asking is: how happy we're those people within themselves? If they were happy, why were they spending so much effort and energy seeking happiness outside of themselves (money, women) instead of just enjoying their happiness. Happiness is inside, not outside, and as long as you're chasing happiness outside you will never find it.

[SargeMaximus]

The question you're not asking is: how happy we're those people within themselves? If they were happy, why were they spending so much effort and energy seeking happiness outside of themselves (money, women) instead of just enjoying their happiness. Happiness is inside, not outside, and as long as you're chasing happiness outside you will never find it.

The question you're not asking is: who gives a f*ck?

Seriously. I've reached nirvana already. Happiness and bliss is fine and dandy, but after a while, you want to "play" again.

If all I wanted was happiness, I'd go to a buddhist monastery in tibet and meditate to death.

I'm NOT after happiness. I'm after pussy and money.

[Illumi]

I've tried being zen the last month with my friends who were insecure and kept tooling me. I told them no in a respectful and direct way but non gave a f#*k. Even women around felt like i was boring or wanna be tough guy.
Then about one week ago i snapped and stood my ground when my friend ( natural with women, insecure, tattoed, everyone fears him ) tried to tool me. His frame crashed and was reacting to me. A girl who watched this happen was looking at me as if she saw a 9 inch d1ck.

2 hours later he came to my room and asked if we could hang out, the next day the same girl hugged me ( shoved my head in her t1ts ) from behind when i was sitting.

So im with Sarge and Chaos on this one.

Zen on the inside, Bad boy on the outside.

[RTBoss]

The question you're not asking is: how happy we're those people within themselves? If they were happy, why were they spending so much effort and energy seeking happiness outside of themselves (money, women) instead of just enjoying their happiness. Happiness is inside, not outside, and as long as you're chasing happiness outside you will never find it.

The question you're not asking is: who gives a f*ck?

Seriously. I've reached nirvana already. Happiness and bliss is fine and dandy, but after a while, you want to "play" again.

If all I wanted was happiness, I'd go to a buddhist monastery in tibet and meditate to death.

I'm NOT after happiness. I'm after pussy and money.

You're on a long hard road my dude.

[SargeMaximus]

The question you're not asking is: how happy we're those people within themselves? If they were happy, why were they spending so much effort and energy seeking happiness outside of themselves (money, women) instead of just enjoying their happiness. Happiness is inside, not outside, and as long as you're chasing happiness outside you will never find it.

The question you're not asking is: who gives a f*ck?

Seriously. I've reached nirvana already. Happiness and bliss is fine and dandy, but after a while, you want to "play" again.

If all I wanted was happiness, I'd go to a buddhist monastery in tibet and meditate to death.

I'm NOT after happiness. I'm after pussy and money.

You're on a long hard road my dude.

Yes I am.

[Duke.Togo]

The question you're not asking is: how happy we're those people within themselves? If they were happy, why were they spending so much effort and energy seeking happiness outside of themselves (money, women) instead of just enjoying their happiness. Happiness is inside, not outside, and as long as you're chasing happiness outside you will never find it.

You know, this is an interesting question and raises a point that I have often run into with many of my friends. Living in NYC and having a past life in Wall Street, a lot of my friends moved over from IB to PE and Hedge Funds now and many of them have 9 Digit net worths.

Being part of that scene, I can tell you one thing, none of them looked at ever being happy. I don't think they looked for power either. It's something else that drove them. Adrenaline.

These guys live for the deal, display these hard driving kill tactics and blow off their steam at parties and with women, alcohol, and coke binges. They don't really care about much. After a while the money doesn't mean anything to them.

I had a friend that actually went in on a deal that was valued at 4 Billion and by the time he was done with the company - the total value shot down to 100 million. You'd think that would be enough to kill him in the game. No - he did his next deal better and played his piece up.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is, the guys who live the wolf of wall street life, they really are like animals. They are pure predators interested only in the hunt. Happiness and love aren't exactly emotions that drive them.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, both are different and have very different emotions. I bring this up because I feel like Sarge and Chaos may be walking a different line, and that line is very finely defined.

[Blacksheep]

Can't wait to hear Chaos describe beating on some disrespectful kids haha.

I hear that striking martial arts like Boxing and Muay Thai tend to attract douche bags, where as Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling guys are more laid back. I wonder how true that is, or if you can stereotype like that.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I've done BJJ for 2 years so I can confirm on the latter. Coolest, nicest (in self assured kind of a way) people you'd ever meet. No ego.

That's not to say douches don't come to BJJ but generally they don't last longer than a few months.

How to recognize douches at BJJ: UFC merchandise, arrogant attitude, won't tap (admit submission) from anybody other than higher belts, and will rather get choked or risk injury than tap to a woman. Massive egos.

[apollolux]

Can't wait to hear Chaos describe beating on some disrespectful kids haha.

I hear that striking martial arts like Boxing and Muay Thai tend to attract douche bags, where as Jiu Jitsu and Wrestling guys are more laid back. I wonder how true that is, or if you can stereotype like that.

Eh, as a former collegiate wrestler and taekwondo practitioner I wouldn't necessarily say either of those stereotypes are true. It always seemed to me that people went into striking martial arts originally started by "being forced into it" by someone usually and kept with it because they found something they liked, and people went into wrestling originally because they thought it would lead to pro wrestling stardom or something.

[DisneylandUSA]

Respect for Each avenue of Martial Arts... Including, Wrestling: They both have a different degrees of discipline, focus and especially, stamina to compete the whole day at a tournament, even lasting several days if large amount of competitors.

[chaosvrgn]

Has anyone ever bothered to ask themselves why it's considered good and pious to be broke, poor and allegedly happy? As if being rich automatically renders someone evil and unhappy? It's another bullshit manipulation by the global elites to curtail competition and maintain an "order" that only supports the people at the top.

The greatest lie the devil ever told was convincing the world that pursuing greatness is a sin and aimless passivity is a virtue.

Shannon -- You know I respect you and believe it or not, you've become such an influential figure in my life, even though we've never met. When you post, I stop, listen and give lots of thought to what you have to say. But if you truly believe in this "pursuing power and money is wrong" thing, then stop running BAMM, drop the price of DMSI to $15 and release all of your secrets to the world. Because it seems to me that power and money IS your end goal -- money from your life's work and power from the fact that no one else can do what you can do. You deserve your riches, you've clearly earned it by ushering in a new era of science and spirituality.

But make no mistake: This will make you immensely powerful and I'm sure you're aware of this. I want this SAME thing for myself.

I want to live the life of Kanye West than the old monk, hiding away in bumfucknowhere, eating rice and roaches, waiting to die alone. I want to create and inspire whenever I want, without having to worry about money or resources. And I think you're all absolutely INSANE when you try to convince me that giving up my drive and dreams to settle and get married to the modern America and live my life in servitude to her and a corporation that gives no shits about me.

KANYE. 21 Grammys. An amazing hip-hop portfolio (if you're not a hip-hop fan, I don't wanna hear it -- "My Beautiful Dark, Twisted Fantasy" is the Kid A of hip-hop), a billion dollar deal with ADIDAS, the ability to create anything to his heart's content. And what, I shouldn't look up to him because he's unapologetic about the fact that he made it in a society that was geared for him to fail?

FUCK THAT.

I am tired of being that guy who remains "zen" in the face of adversity -- when people are actively trying to move you around like a chess piece, but never in mutual benefit and only for their own personal gain. How long will I continue to put my life on hold so everyone else can succeed, and then pat myself on the fucking back for being "zen."

I believe in self-mastery. I believe in self-actualization. And who I am, what I am, is someone with the potential to ascend to greatness. And I think it's time I admit that and just do it.

... and that's why I knocked that 16 year old bitch out with a jab, jab, OVERHAND RIGHT combo when he hooked me in the face and giggled about it.

You chose the wrong day, boy.

[DisneylandUSA]

Has anyone ever bothered to ask themselves why it's considered good and pious to be broke, poor and allegedly happy? As if being rich automatically renders someone evil and unhappy? It's another ***** manipulation by the global elites to curtail competition and maintain an "order" that only supports the people at the top.

The greatest lie the devil ever told was convincing the world that pursuing greatness is a sin and aimless passivity is a virtue.

Shannon -- You know I respect you and believe it or not, you've become such an influential figure in my life, even though we've never met. When you post, I stop, listen and give lots of thought to what you have to say. But if you truly believe in this "pursuing power and money is wrong" thing, then stop running BAMM, drop the price of DMSI to $15 and release all of your secrets to the world. Because it seems to me that power and money IS your end goal -- money from your life's work and power from the fact that no one else can do what you can do. You deserve your riches, you've clearly earned it by ushering in a new era of science and spirituality.

But make no mistake: This will make you immensely powerful and I'm sure you're aware of this. I want this SAME thing for myself.

I want to live the life of Kanye West than the old monk, hiding away in bumfucknowhere, eating rice and roaches, waiting to die alone. I want to create and inspire whenever I want, without having to worry about money or resources. And I think you're all absolutely INSANE when you try to convince me that giving up my drive and dreams to settle and get married to the modern America and live my life in servitude to her and a corporation that gives no shits about me.

KANYE. 21 Grammys. An amazing hip-hop portfolio (if you're not a hip-hop fan, I don't wanna hear it -- "My Beautiful Dark, Twisted Fantasy" is the Kid A of hip-hop), a billion dollar deal with ADIDAS, the ability to create anything to his heart's content. And what, I shouldn't look up to him because he's unapologetic about the fact that he made it in a society that was geared for him to fail?

**** THAT.

I am tired of being that guy who remains "zen" in the face of adversity -- when people are actively trying to move you around like a chess piece, but never in mutual benefit and only for their own personal gain. How long will I continue to put my life on hold so everyone else can succeed, and then pat myself on the ***** back for being "zen."

I believe in self-mastery. I believe in self-actualization. And who I am, what I am, is someone with the potential to ascend to greatness. And I think it's time I admit that and just do it.

... and that's why I knocked that 16 year old bitch out with a jab, jab, OVERHAND RIGHT combo when he hooked me in the face and giggled about it.

You chose the wrong day, boy.

Eating Rice and Roaches. Yes, the Human Race is made to be Creative and Successful. It is great that you have 'passion' in your ideas... Passion goes various directions; One may be passionate to live a Luxurious life and another may have passion for 'eating rice and roaches.'

[K-Train]

To quote the lovely ladies who sang the "Cell Block Tango":

He had it coming


In all seriousness, it was better that it was YOU who knocked him out versus someone else in the street with more training and 1000% less compassion.