(09-28-2010, 10:05 AM)Shannon Wrote: Consider the wording on this. It sounds a bit dismissive of the value of women, beautiful women especially. If you meant it that way, do reconsider! There is not much that can equal the value of a good woman. If not, there's a way you can succeed even more as a ladies man: making sure that what you say can't be mistaken for a negative comment.
Ryan is right I was going for that, however Shannon is right too and astutely picked up on the underlying communication - very good point, I didn't see that. More like "beautiful women come into my life" as a natural progression of living my own. Also when you go to far the other way it is exclusionary of women, as happened to me this weekend. I froze up and was mind dealing when a beautiful young woman was very interested in me. Something that used to happen all the time - a rare experience these days to be sure, and some of the "self-sabotage" residue there still of which I spoke earlier.
Quote:Indeed. As can too much self awareness, and not enough understanding of one's subject of interest. To truly succeed with women, you must understand women.
Yes yourself first, then women.
Quote:Comments on those aren't necessary, in case you're just feeling obigated. I'm not suggesting them to endorse pickup, but rather to explain certain things that are used in the script of the alpha male set so that every man can benefit from it. Some, like me when I was younger, would not understand some of the script fully without that because they haven't ever had a man to guide them. It works without, to be sure, but the better you understand certain useful concepts, the better it will work.
I understand. However since they are part of the program you've recommended and you've stated to read them 3 times, I think it important to talk about what's in there. Both good and bad, from my perspective.
Quote:Doing affirmations is not recommended with subliminals because there exists the potential for script conflict. You don't know what's in the script of the alpha male set, and unless you're very skilled at scriptwriting, you also run the risk of accidental self harm. It will also affect how the alpha set works for you, and its as likely to enhance as to detract if you don't have properly written affirmations, or they conflict.
Thanks for the heads up. Actually I am very skilled at this, as I have done plenty of awareness training, self-hypnosis, affirmations for years. Also for the teacher I am working with it is an essential. From what I've seen in your example script (and many of your other scripts too), the directions of the affirmations I do seem right in line with it. Given that how much of an issue do you think it is now?
Quote:Pickup doesn't seem like the best way to go to me. Too much focus on shallowness and sex, and not enough appreciation for the woman as a human being. It's going to backfire in the long run, I think, and make women all that much harder to deal with for men, because women will have to protect themselves against more and more PUA stuff. At least, the ones who have emotions. I think it just leads to more battle of the sexes crap, really, as women start feeling used for sex because all these guys are just manipulating them into bed and walking. Same old stuff, different way of doing it, I guess.
Agreed. It did get me results, but for long term ease and contentment especially in terms of life and women, it is not the way to go. There are things I didn't deal with about self-image and esteem. And the whole pursuit behavior that pickup endorses has taken a while to unwire, almost done with that. However at the time after I broke up with my serious girlfriend, it was the option in front of me and the one that I chose. It's all I had and seem like the right way to go.