05-08-2013, 10:00 PM
(05-07-2013, 12:00 PM)mat422 Wrote:(05-06-2013, 07:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: My question about the big bang is... if there was no time... how was there change? Time IS change. Without time, there can be no change, no movement, no nothing. Right? And then at the same time, while meditating, I have experienced states of timelessness. Maybe time is actually a sort of glove on something else... which changes out perception of it. If we can experience timeless states of awareness, does that perhaps mean that there are multiple planes of existence and that in some, time exists and in some it doesn't? And if so, would that mean that time is an artifact of the density of the energy of that plane's "octave"? Does my ability to experience timeless states in meditation mean that I am simply turning off my awareness of time? Or is there an existence beyond time, or without it, that I am becoming aware of? And if there is no time, is there no space? And what would that mean? Does it mean that I'm experiencing a different plane of existence which is based on different rules of existence, or that I'm simply disconnecting from parts of a physical awareness sense array?
Such wonderful questions to enjoy figuring out. Have fun with it, Mat.
Oh I will. Something that's always intrigued me is time distortion. Either time creeping by slowly or speeding up at an incredible rate. I've always seen time as this malleable thing, not really set in stone.
When you say a plane's octave, I naturally think of lower octave=lower vibrational energy and higher octave=high vibrational energy. Which to me would mean as you step up through these planes energy moves faster and time becomes slower, or ceases to exist as we know it. That is, if there are different planes of existence.
Of course this requires that time is not some sort of "covering" or "add on" to something else, and that it is tied to the energy level of the planar signature. I currently believe time to be at least partially a modification to, or an add on to whatever the other half of space is in space-time. I think time is not inherent in a plane's existence, but is added into the "rules" separately, and exists as a mask for some other component that has not been identified because it is "underneath" what we call time.
Which may or may not indicate that space is similarly segmented...
But yes, when I say octave I mean higher or lower frequency of energy comprising the base of the plane itself.
And I'm pretty confident for myself, at least, that there are indeed alternate planes of existence.
This subject is one of the few that completely maxes out all my processors and makes me really work for further understanding, so I really enjoy contemplating it. It's ridiculously complex, and I believe that the only way to truly understand it fully is to disconnect oneself from the limits of the human body/brain focus. The human brain is amazing, but it is limited nonetheless.
But this is a bit beyond the scope of the discussion at hand...
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