10-29-2011, 02:11 PM
This post is in response to a comment on Shannon's journal posting it here, since its big and so as not to dominate a busy thread.
In college at one point I was seeing 4 girls in sexual relationships at the same time, and I was infatuated with all of them as they were with me. They did not know about each other but they knew I was (probably) seeing other people although the issue never came really came up. The 'relationships' were extremely casual and free, zero commitment or obligation but still incredible full of caring and emotion, like it was n't just wham bam thank you mam, but a kind of in the moment love with zero expectations, we always had a lot of fun together. I would only c (sleep with) each one maybe once a week or so but it was still great. The whole thing slowly ended but I am still on good terms with all of them to this day. This was one of the most enjoyable periods of my life and something I would like to re-create. The kind of set I have in mind is something that makes one the kind of person who can have this lifestyle and be the kind of person who can create that sexual and free loving relationship. Although sex magnet might already cover this. I have not come close to re-creating this experience in the NYC, although I'm sure its possible. Here is some philosophy by Zan that gets at what I am talking about. I believe this is in alignment with what Ryan mean by a third variant of woman magnet/sex magnet that was 'Don Juan' like. It about creating amazing experiences, peak experiences, in relating and sex with no expectations that leave both partners feeling more in love with life and themselves.
check it out here
http://www.zanperrion.com/the-essence-of...uction.php
or read below
The Essence of Enlightened Seduction
Every true lover knows that the secret to his power over women lies in the power they have over him. He is a friend to women. He is delighted by the way they flow through life and the way they occupy the world. Their essence enamors and enchants him, and in return he can't help but celebrate them.
He is a romantic; he believes in love, and his love is complete, absolute. He is a slave to his love of women. There is no room for misogyny, no hint of presumption, no toxicity of manipulation.
He knows that women can sense immediately when they are in the presence of a man who loves women, who thinks they are beautiful, who makes them feel lovely, who delights in them. He genuinely loves women, and a man that loves women is loved by women.
He feels no need to validate himself to other men by bragging about his exploits. He never kisses and tells... ever. His encounters with women are never about bolstering his own self-esteem or adding another notch to his bedpost. It is all about respect.
It is never about taking something for himself, but always about sharing something with her.
For he knows that all experiences in life are amplified once they are shared.
His biggest fear is to be perceived as just another man; he is not like other men, nor does he aspire to be.
If he thought for a moment that she regretted her encounter with him in any way, or somehow felt sad or hurt because of him, it would break his heart. He can't bear the thought that a woman would ever feel she was manipulated by him.
And yet he doesn't mask his desires as a man. He never portrays indifference or apathy in an attempt to sneak under the radar. Instead he embraces his sexuality, presents it to her without presumption, is delighted if she responds favorably but deeply respectful if she does not.
He enters every one of his romantic adventures with newness and excitement, like his first love all over again. He knows that the impact he makes on her, and that she makes on him, will resonate with both of them for years.
And will he be hurt? Will he feel the pangs of loss when it ends? Of course. But he loves it all just the same.
Honesty is the greatest aphrodisiac...
He lives his life believing that every interaction in life is, in essence, a seduction. And so he assumes a woman is always interested. It might be a false assumption, of course, but it is a pleasant assumption, and so it is the way he has chosen to live his life.
He never defends himself when accused of being a player. He knows the truth: that he never plays with a woman's emotions. He is at peace with himself.
And so he makes no attempt at apology or justification for the way he is; he desires neither empathy nor absolution, nor even, for that matter, understanding. He has no need to defend himself because women are his greatest defenders.
Instead he believes his intentions are pure and mutually desired. He is genuine and honest, maybe the most honest man she has ever met. And women have demonstrated over and over to him that honesty is the greatest aphrodisiac.
And to him, they are all his girls. Every woman is his woman. He has immense compassion for women. He sees their sadness and their loss, their faded dreams, their dead and dying relationships, their stultifying careers and responsibilities, and he makes it his mission to impart beauty to their life again.
Yes, he has been created by women, formed by them, and inspired by them.
He shares in their secrets...
Zan Perrion
(10-29-2011, 08:07 AM)Shannon Wrote:(10-28-2011, 09:12 PM)RainbowAbyss Wrote: What about a third variant with a theme of on multiple emotional sexual relationships, like a don juan, zan kind of thing. I'm going to be starting a thread expanding more on what I mean, I don't expect it to come out anytime soon, but still worth exploring.
Multiple emotional sexual relationships? I see you have never had two or more girlfriends at the same time. I've had as many as three at a time, and they all knew about each other while it was happening. It doesn't work unless you can find truly polyamorous or polygamist partners, or you can do things that A) I wasn't willing to do, and B) are illegal in the United States.
Otherwise, eventually, someone feels like they're not being treated as well as/favored as someone else, jealousy sets in, and everything just falls apart. And if emotions are involved, as they were for me, it is painful for everyone if it does fall apart. And triple for me, since I was emotionally invested in all three of them.
Are you sure that's a road you want to go down?
In college at one point I was seeing 4 girls in sexual relationships at the same time, and I was infatuated with all of them as they were with me. They did not know about each other but they knew I was (probably) seeing other people although the issue never came really came up. The 'relationships' were extremely casual and free, zero commitment or obligation but still incredible full of caring and emotion, like it was n't just wham bam thank you mam, but a kind of in the moment love with zero expectations, we always had a lot of fun together. I would only c (sleep with) each one maybe once a week or so but it was still great. The whole thing slowly ended but I am still on good terms with all of them to this day. This was one of the most enjoyable periods of my life and something I would like to re-create. The kind of set I have in mind is something that makes one the kind of person who can have this lifestyle and be the kind of person who can create that sexual and free loving relationship. Although sex magnet might already cover this. I have not come close to re-creating this experience in the NYC, although I'm sure its possible. Here is some philosophy by Zan that gets at what I am talking about. I believe this is in alignment with what Ryan mean by a third variant of woman magnet/sex magnet that was 'Don Juan' like. It about creating amazing experiences, peak experiences, in relating and sex with no expectations that leave both partners feeling more in love with life and themselves.
check it out here
http://www.zanperrion.com/the-essence-of...uction.php
or read below
The Essence of Enlightened Seduction
Every true lover knows that the secret to his power over women lies in the power they have over him. He is a friend to women. He is delighted by the way they flow through life and the way they occupy the world. Their essence enamors and enchants him, and in return he can't help but celebrate them.
He is a romantic; he believes in love, and his love is complete, absolute. He is a slave to his love of women. There is no room for misogyny, no hint of presumption, no toxicity of manipulation.
He knows that women can sense immediately when they are in the presence of a man who loves women, who thinks they are beautiful, who makes them feel lovely, who delights in them. He genuinely loves women, and a man that loves women is loved by women.
He feels no need to validate himself to other men by bragging about his exploits. He never kisses and tells... ever. His encounters with women are never about bolstering his own self-esteem or adding another notch to his bedpost. It is all about respect.
It is never about taking something for himself, but always about sharing something with her.
For he knows that all experiences in life are amplified once they are shared.
His biggest fear is to be perceived as just another man; he is not like other men, nor does he aspire to be.
If he thought for a moment that she regretted her encounter with him in any way, or somehow felt sad or hurt because of him, it would break his heart. He can't bear the thought that a woman would ever feel she was manipulated by him.
And yet he doesn't mask his desires as a man. He never portrays indifference or apathy in an attempt to sneak under the radar. Instead he embraces his sexuality, presents it to her without presumption, is delighted if she responds favorably but deeply respectful if she does not.
He enters every one of his romantic adventures with newness and excitement, like his first love all over again. He knows that the impact he makes on her, and that she makes on him, will resonate with both of them for years.
And will he be hurt? Will he feel the pangs of loss when it ends? Of course. But he loves it all just the same.
Honesty is the greatest aphrodisiac...
He lives his life believing that every interaction in life is, in essence, a seduction. And so he assumes a woman is always interested. It might be a false assumption, of course, but it is a pleasant assumption, and so it is the way he has chosen to live his life.
He never defends himself when accused of being a player. He knows the truth: that he never plays with a woman's emotions. He is at peace with himself.
And so he makes no attempt at apology or justification for the way he is; he desires neither empathy nor absolution, nor even, for that matter, understanding. He has no need to defend himself because women are his greatest defenders.
Instead he believes his intentions are pure and mutually desired. He is genuine and honest, maybe the most honest man she has ever met. And women have demonstrated over and over to him that honesty is the greatest aphrodisiac.
And to him, they are all his girls. Every woman is his woman. He has immense compassion for women. He sees their sadness and their loss, their faded dreams, their dead and dying relationships, their stultifying careers and responsibilities, and he makes it his mission to impart beauty to their life again.
Yes, he has been created by women, formed by them, and inspired by them.
He shares in their secrets...
Zan Perrion
1. There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
