About's WM2.0 Journal

[Shannon]

Oh, but I do. You have completely discounted that I can have sex with her whenever I want now. The future does not equal the past. As long as we are both in a situation where we are open to having sex, it can happen. I may not take it, but my access is there whenever I want it, probably for years into the future.

I never thought of it that way. I'm definitely quick to throw people under the bus just because of a simple misunderstanding or misfire. I even do this to myself which is, I believe, a huge factor in why I'm not as successful as I'd like to be. The more mistakes you make, the faster you learn, and all that. I'm just hung up on being a sniper, what I gotta do is get myself an M60 and just fire away.

Slow and steady wins the race. Think about now, and the future, and choose the longest term success possible.

Go look up the definition of opinion. Then tell me that a disctionary has value because it is opinion. Then go look up the definitions of the words love, like, and ****.

Lol, I didn't mean anything by it, besides, why would I do that? To internalize more opinions that I don't share?

I'm completely lost here. ><

The dictionary does not deal in opinions.

One thing I can share is that I have noted a significant correlation between certain body types and their ability to handle "no tact". The ones who handle it best in females are the tall athletic ones. Then comes the tiny petite ones. It's not a hard and fast rule, but it's a good rule of thumb.

Tall athletic women can dig no tact? Sweet. Those are the ones I like. At any rate, I'll be more conscious of body language from here on out. Don't know what I'm looking for, but I can tell the difference between a good reaction and a bad reaction. So I might as well start there.

We went from "The ones who handle it best in females are the tall athletic ones." to "Tall athletic women can dig no tact." I said they as a group have the highest percentage of members who understand and handle it well, you said they all like it.

As I said above, tact is the art of understanding how to adjust what you say and do to be comfortably received by the person you are dealing with. To do that, you have to understand the person you are dealing with. Barring that, the general rules of tact are commonly called "good manners".

Good manners=Nice Guy syndrome I always thought, no? I must admit I have trouble with my manners around women because I always assume I'm being a nice guy and ruining my chances. Being an A-hole just doesn't feel right, and I don't do what doesn't feel right so yeah. I'm noticing I'm trapping myself behind a wall of assumptions. Egad.

Good manners doesn't equal nice guy. Good manners, done right, is a strong indicator of high class, which is higher value. There's a big difference between beta male and polite alpha.

It is my sincere hope that I will come to a place where I can enjoy the women I want which will hopefully include women that are on the fence or on my side. Seduction takes too much work anyhow, and so I won't do any unnecessary work just to bang a woman who may or may not be able to keep coming back for more. Or, who may be a risk to me (like guns Shannon, no thanks )

Seduction is a wonderful game to play with a woman, but you have to know how to play it, and find a woman who is willing to play. Find such a woman, and it can be quite enjoyable. At least... I find it so.

You raise a valid point, and the answer is that I do put the blame equally on the woman. I have always been amazed at how guys act like she's blameless when clearly she either initiated it or at least willingly participated. That's *****. Which is why I have a zero tolerance policy for betrayal. I have been burned too many times with that.

Now then... your age? I'm going to guess you're in your early to mid 20's.

Ah, this is great to read.

And yes sir, you are correct. I am 25 years old. What made you think so?

The fact that I was 25 when I almost got my head blown off for doing what I did with someone else's wife, because I was thinking just like you were. I assure you, it is something I feel shame for to this very day, and that burden is worse than the fear of death because it is a long term pain. In the end, he forgave me, and I still haven't, all these years later.

If a woman wants to be with me, she acts like it. Otherwise, she is always welcome to leave at any time. I don't try to force anyone to stay with me, and I'd rather she leave than be around if she isn't going to abide by the rules she agreed to when we started the relationship. If that includes her being sexually and romantically faithful to me, then she's not free to both play with others and be with me. So if a woman I claim was to play with you, it would simply be a case of she's not acting like it, so she's not mine anymore. I have no respect for a man who does that, but that was her choice, and my primary beef is with her.

But if you do more than meet her half way... then I have a beef with you specifically, as well as her.

Wait... are you saying you have relations with women where the deal is you can have as many girlfriends as you want but they ALL have to be faithful only to you? How does that work?

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In those cases where I have multiple girlfriends, the rules are, she must be faithful to me, but I can have anyone I want. This is unfair in that I have multiple partners and she does not, but it is also the only way to ensure we are all safe having sex. Since none of my girlfriends are there by force, and always by choice, it's not an issue. If they want to be with me, they naturally want to also feel safe doing so, and that is a big part of how I ensure the safety of the group. It is my responsibility to care for the group in choosing my girlfriends wisely.

How does it work? Very well, as long as each one wants to be part of my group. The only thing I ask of them is that they excuse themselves from the group before having sex with anyone else if they decide they're no longer happy with the arrangement, so that nobody inside the group runs the risk of disease.

Usually what happens is that if I choose to have multiple simultaneous girlfriends, I accumulate them until I have 4 to 6 and then it becomes difficult to manage them all and I pick one and let the rest go. If you find women who are willing to play by the rules you set out, and they are willing and mature enough to get along, then it's not a problem, aside from fair distribution of time and attention. If not, they begin to get restless and in order to prevent hurt feelings, you have to start disbanding the group, or become more aggressively dominant with enforcing the rules. I usually just disband, since I don't like the idea of forcing anything on them.

The rules of course change if I am seeking a monogamous relationship.